Cosby Found Guilty

[Dan Druff]

Unless his appeal is successful, he will spend a minimum of 3 actual years in prison without being paroled.

Given his age, it is very possible he will die in prison, especially not being used to living under such circumstances. (If he were a hardened criminal, prison would be somewhat familiar, and his chances of survival would be higher.)

Interestingly, a one-line outburst in court was partially responsible for his sentencing length. At one point the prosecutor asked for no bail because Cosby is rich and has a private plane. Cosby stood up and yelled, "He doesn't have a plane, you asshole!", referring to himself in third person. The judge later cited this outburst as an "extraordinary display of disrespect", and that it was evidence of "who this convicted criminal defendant actually is."

Here's a short article explaining the full details of his sentencing, and what comes next: http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/m...925-story.html

[Lord of the Fraud]

So a serial rapist could serve as little as 3 years jail time?

Would be booking a flight to America if I was a sexual predator.


Seen a guy in the US get hit with a 20 stretch after stealing 5 cartons of cigarettes the other day. He did have previous, but still... lol

[sonatine]

So a serial rapist could serve as little as 3 years jail time?

Would be booking a flight to America if I was a sexual predator.


Seen a guy in the US get hit with a 20 stretch after stealing 5 cartons of cigarettes the other day. He did have previous, but still... lol

you need a pretty big bankroll to play in that game, apparently.

[limitles]

Unless his appeal is successful, he will spend a minimum of 3 actual years in prison without being paroled.

Given his age, it is very possible he will die in prison, especially not being used to living under such circumstances. (If he were a hardened criminal, prison would be somewhat familiar, and his chances of survival would be higher.)

Interestingly, a one-line outburst in court was partially responsible for his sentencing length. At one point the prosecutor asked for no bail because Cosby is rich and has a private plane. Cosby stood up and yelled, "He doesn't have a plane, you asshole!", referring to himself in third person. The judge later cited this outburst as an "extraordinary display of disrespect", and that it was evidence of "who this convicted criminal defendant actually is."

Here's a short article explaining the full details of his sentencing, and what comes next: http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/m...925-story.html

Was Judge Judy on this case? That statement from the judge is ridiculous. Calling someone an asshole doesn't rank high here when Cosby has been found guilty on several sexual assault charges. I'd say it's rather tame. I'm sure the judge has heard plenty worse. Considering a longer sentence term because of the outburst should be a case for Cosby's lawyers. Judge is a whack

[snowtracks]

GUILTY!

[BiffCo99]

So a serial rapist could serve as little as 3 years jail time?

Would be booking a flight to America if I was a sexual predator.


Seen a guy in the US get hit with a 20 stretch after stealing 5 cartons of cigarettes the other day. He did have previous, but still... lol

“Seen a guy”? Care to elaborate on “seen a guy”? What state was this in? What were his previous offenses exactly?

You clearly don’t know shit about the American justice system. Criminals in the US are routinely given chance after chance after chance and I call bullshit on someone getting 20 years for “stealing” cigarettes as you say. You must provide more details.

And if you’re shocked that there’s a different level of justice for a millionaire, which is true around the globe, well, you got some learning about the world to do.

[limitles]

So a serial rapist could serve as little as 3 years jail time?

Would be booking a flight to America if I was a sexual predator.


Seen a guy in the US get hit with a 20 stretch after stealing 5 cartons of cigarettes the other day. He did have previous, but still... lol

“Seen a guy”? Care to elaborate on “seen a guy”? What state was this in? What were his previous offenses exactly?

You clearly don’t know shit about the American justice system. Criminals in the US are routinely given chance after chance after chance and I call bullshit on someone getting 20 years for “stealing” cigarettes as you say. You must provide more details.

And if you’re shocked that there’s a different level of justice for a millionaire, which is true around the globe, well, you got some learning about the world to do.

You have very little chance if you're broke

[BiffCo99]

“Seen a guy”? Care to elaborate on “seen a guy”? What state was this in? What were his previous offenses exactly?

You clearly don’t know shit about the American justice system. Criminals in the US are routinely given chance after chance after chance and I call bullshit on someone getting 20 years for “stealing” cigarettes as you say. You must provide more details.

And if you’re shocked that there’s a different level of justice for a millionaire, which is true around the globe, well, you got some learning about the world to do.

You have very little chance if you're broke

Absolutely not true in the US. Of course it depends on what State you are in, what the crime is, and there are anecdotally cases where people get totally fucked by the system but the majority of the criminals in the US have to commit a series of offenses before jail time is even considered.

[TheXFactor]

[Lord of the Fraud]

So a serial rapist could serve as little as 3 years jail time?

Would be booking a flight to America if I was a sexual predator.


Seen a guy in the US get hit with a 20 stretch after stealing 5 cartons of cigarettes the other day. He did have previous, but still... lol

“Seen a guy”? Care to elaborate on “seen a guy”? What state was this in? What were his previous offenses exactly?

You clearly don’t know shit about the American justice system. Criminals in the US are routinely given chance after chance after chance and I call bullshit on someone getting 20 years for “stealing” cigarettes as you say. You must provide more details.

And if you’re shocked that there’s a different level of justice for a millionaire, which is true around the globe, well, you got some learning about the world to do.

lol, you think I just made that up?

Here I'll even treat you to a Fox News link since it's probably your 2nd bible.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/24...igarettes.html

A Florida man who stole $600 worth of cigarettes from a convenience store was sentenced Friday to 20 years in state prison, The Pensacola News Journal reported.

An Escambia County jury convicted Robert Spellman, 48, of burglary and grand theft in August. Spellman went into a Circle K in December, and stole 10 cartons of cigarettes from a stock room in the store manager’s office, authorities said.

The State Attorney’s Office said authorities found Spellman nearby, matching a description of the suspect, and had the cigarettes, The News Journal reported.

Spellman had 14 felony and 31 misdemeanor convictions prior to the cigarette theft, which qualified him as a habitual felony offender, The News Journal reported. That led to the lengthy 20-year prison sentence imposed Friday by an Escambia County judge.

The lengthy prison term prompted outrage on social media, with some people accusing the prosecutor of imposing too harsh a sentence for a seemingly petty crime.

[limitles]

You have very little chance if you're broke

Absolutely not true in the US. Of course it depends on what State you are in, what the crime is, and there are anecdotally cases where people get totally fucked by the system but the majority of the criminals in the US have to commit a series of offenses before jail time is even considered.

`That explains you level of incarceration rate compare to the rest of the world

[BiffCo99]

“Seen a guy”? Care to elaborate on “seen a guy”? What state was this in? What were his previous offenses exactly?

You clearly don’t know shit about the American justice system. Criminals in the US are routinely given chance after chance after chance and I call bullshit on someone getting 20 years for “stealing” cigarettes as you say. You must provide more details.

And if you’re shocked that there’s a different level of justice for a millionaire, which is true around the globe, well, you got some learning about the world to do.

lol, you think I just made that up?

I'll even treat you to a Fox News link since it's probably your 2nd bible.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/24...igarettes.html

A Florida man who stole $600 worth of cigarettes from a convenience store was sentenced Friday to 20 years in state prison, The Pensacola News Journal reported.

An Escambia County jury convicted Robert Spellman, 48, of burglary and grand theft in August. Spellman went into a Circle K in December, and stole 10 cartons of cigarettes from a stock room in the store manager’s office, authorities said.

The State Attorney’s Office said authorities found Spellman nearby, matching a description of the suspect, and had the cigarettes, The News Journal reported.

Spellman had 14 felony and 31 misdemeanor convictions prior to the cigarette theft, which qualified him as a habitual felony offender, The News Journal reported. That led to the lengthy 20-year prison sentence imposed Friday by an Escambia County judge.

The lengthy prison term prompted outrage on social media, with some people accusing the prosecutor of imposing too harsh a sentence for a seemingly petty crime.

These are some of the details I wanted. 14 felonies and 31 misdemeanors? I wonder what exactly the felonies were but based on 14 felonies and 45 total crimes the guy is clearly a menace to society and should be put away for a long time. And guess what, he’ll probably be out of jail in ten or less years as long as he has good behavior.

[big dick]

Spellman had 14 felony and 31 misdemeanor convictions prior to the cigarette theft
20 years is fair

[Lord of the Fraud]

lol, you think I just made that up?

I'll even treat you to a Fox News link since it's probably your 2nd bible.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/24...igarettes.html

A Florida man who stole $600 worth of cigarettes from a convenience store was sentenced Friday to 20 years in state prison, The Pensacola News Journal reported.

An Escambia County jury convicted Robert Spellman, 48, of burglary and grand theft in August. Spellman went into a Circle K in December, and stole 10 cartons of cigarettes from a stock room in the store manager’s office, authorities said.

The State Attorney’s Office said authorities found Spellman nearby, matching a description of the suspect, and had the cigarettes, The News Journal reported.

Spellman had 14 felony and 31 misdemeanor convictions prior to the cigarette theft, which qualified him as a habitual felony offender, The News Journal reported. That led to the lengthy 20-year prison sentence imposed Friday by an Escambia County judge.

The lengthy prison term prompted outrage on social media, with some people accusing the prosecutor of imposing too harsh a sentence for a seemingly petty crime.

These are some of the details I wanted. 14 felonies and 31 misdemeanors? I wonder what exactly the felonies were but based on 14 felonies and 45 total crimes the guy is clearly a menace to society and should be put away for a long time. And guess what, he’ll probably be out of jail in ten or less years as long as he has good behavior.

Said he had form.

But stealing a few smokes is what broke the camels back?

That is a flawed system.

[BiffCo99]

Absolutely not true in the US. Of course it depends on what State you are in, what the crime is, and there are anecdotally cases where people get totally fucked by the system but the majority of the criminals in the US have to commit a series of offenses before jail time is even considered.

`That explains you level of incarceration rate compare to the rest of the world

Incarceration rates in the US are falling and are at its lowest in 20 years. And lol at comparing the US to other countries when it comes to this. The makeup of the US on so many levels (demographically, racially, urban centers, 50 different states with 50 different sets of laws) differs so much from any other country on the planet that it’s hard to compare. That being said, I am glad that America for now, in general, is still tougher on crime and smarter about it than most countries.

[BiffCo99]

lol, you think I just made that up?

I'll even treat you to a Fox News link since it's probably your 2nd bible.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/24...igarettes.html

These are some of the details I wanted. 14 felonies and 31 misdemeanors? I wonder what exactly the felonies were but based on 14 felonies and 45 total crimes the guy is clearly a menace to society and should be put away for a long time. And guess what, he’ll probably be out of jail in ten or less years as long as he has good behavior.

Said he had form.

But stealing a few smokes is what broke the camels back?

That is a flawed system.

You said he had previous, but 45 total convictions is a ridiculous number and makes it clear the guy has ZERO respect for the law. We still don’t know what the previous felonies were for. And who knows how many times he’s been before this particular judge or what other extenuating circumstances exist. No problem with the sentence especially when he’ll do nowhere near the full 20 years.

[duped_samaritan]

He either had one hell of a shitty public defender or is just a stubborn idiot (or more likely both) for letting this go to trial with 20 years staring him down.

No doubt he turned down a plea for much less time.

[big dick]

I'm glad the guy is in jail and doesn't have the chance to cause more mayhem.

[Dan Druff]

Incarceration rates don't matter, provided that the convictions are correct and the sentences are fair.

It is far more common in the US for the sentence to be too light rather than too stiff.

For every occasional example you can find of someone getting an overly harsh sentence, you can find 500 examples of sentences which were far too light.

This is why certain violent crimes should have mandatory minimums.

[duped_samaritan]

Incarceration rates don't matter, provided that the convictions are correct and the sentences are fair.

It is far more common in the US for the sentence to be too light rather than too stiff.

For every occasional example you can find of someone getting an overly harsh sentence, you can find 500 examples of sentences which were far too light.

This is why certain violent crimes should have mandatory minimums.

US has by far the highest incarceration rate. Why do you think that is/what do you think that means? (not being sarcastic)

Surely it's a valid indicator of something...I don't understand what you mean by it not mattering.

I don't really have an opinion on all of this, haven't given it much thought.