like the old simmons NBA trade value articles, who walks away from those talks?Originally Posted by Sanlmar
degrom is arb eligible after this year and FA after 2021...lord only knows how long gleyber is locked up cheap by the yanks, but guessing until 2023 and probably not FA eligible until 2025 if I had to guess...
yanks obvious Achilles heel every postseason is pitching, so this might be well worth it even if they had to give up a guy like gleyber...
Cashman and the Yankees have their head in the right place.
They will land someone plus a few more bits. DeGrom is just an idea to illustrate a point. Gleyber Torres is just an example of their wretched excess of talent
So they have an excess of talent and have historically been a “win now” organization. I’m not talking division but the WS. Thus, the Dodgers v Yankees organizational dichotomy.
Red Sawks are “this year or bust” but really have nothing left to dangle as trade bait. Twilight has fallen on this squad. They may be good enough “as is”. I doubt it
I found it very interesting that the Yankees down 5-4 to the Nats in the 9th committed to keeping Sánchez on the bench to have a full day of rest and stayed with Romine. Romine is .333 but doesn’t have the game winning pop Sánchez promises. This is an example of the long view that delivers rings.
Epic AL East battle.
Both teams r great if this was a softball league.
I dont trust there starting pitching in a Best of 7. Especially the Yankees.. Moves will have to be made or neither of these teams win shit.
Druff could put together a team who could piss on the BlueJays, Rays and Orioles.
Whoever gets Bundy or Happ will be the front runner only to lose to a AL West team or the Indians.
If Degroom has any sense he never goes over to the AL. Put him on the Dodgers and watch him get lit up like a Christmas Tree at Halloween.
All that being said... Your Ws champs r none other than The Brewers bitches LOL
Last edited by badguy23; 06-13-2018 at 08:17 PM.
couldn't agree more...yanks have always hit a ton of homers during the regular season and then when it gets to the playoffs they get shut down by superior pitching...I mean when is the last time the yanks splurged for starting pitching in the FA market? not counting tanaka, was it CC?Both teams r great if this was a softball league.
I dont trust there starting pitching in a Best of 7. Especially the Yankees.. Moves will have to be made or neither of these teams win shit.
Druff could put together a team who could piss on the BlueJays, Rays and Orioles.
Whoever gets Bundy or Happ will be the front runner only to lose to a AL West team or the Indians.
do you really trust a rotation of severino, tanaka, CC, grey come October...lol...they get another ace to back severino and can line up severino/ace to be named/tanaka they'd have something with the way their bullpen is...
Your makin’ my point today. Who gives a fuck about the regular season? Except Druff. Win the satellite into the tournament. Position yourself for what will be required in the playoffs.couldn't agree more...yanks have always hit a ton of homers during the regular season and then when it gets to the playoffs they get shut down by superior pitching...I mean when is the last time the yanks splurged for starting pitching in the FA market? not counting tanaka, was it CC?
do you really trust a rotation of severino, tanaka, CC, grey come October...lol...they get another ace to back severino and can line up severino/ace to be named/tanaka they'd have something with the way their bullpen is...
Nothing is sacred not even your 21 year old quasi prospect. You give him up and ask what else they want.
Druff refused the notion of trading prospects. I’ll dumpster dive for his posts if you like. “We won the (wretched) NL West so obviously we good. If Dodgers lose its variance.”
The starting rotation for either today’s Yankees or Sawks aren’t playoff ready. Regular season functional and good enough.
To address your point about the last time Yanks hit the FA:
When exactly are we talking about? This is an entirely new lineup.
2015 Opening Day
Ellsbury
Gardner
Beltrán
Teixeira
McCann
Headley
Rodriguez
Drew
Gregorius
I jumped on the Yanks in 2016. I was desperate for a life raft to leave the sinking ship that were the Sawks.
The 2017 Yanks were waaaay ahead of schedule.
This team is entirely new from 2015. They blew that old timers squad the fuck up. Today’s Yankees have no bearing on whatever free agency you might have expected. There was no point.
It’s time for Druff’s Dodgers to strip down and rebuild. Maybe just maybe try to get some value in trade for Kershaw. He’d clear waivers.
Hanley Ramirez is at home right now waiting for their call. Get him together with Kemp again. Together they can share testosterone replacement therapy chatter with Turner.
when I'm talking about the yanks in the FA market, I was talking about them going after starting pitching and not hitting (tex, jacoby, Stanton, etc)...gimmie 3 aces to solid starters in the playoffs against the yanks and ill take that all day long (I see you Justin-cole-lance/dallas)...
regular season only matters to avoid the wild card and the huge amount of variance associated with it...
Yankees are 5-2 vs Astros in 2018
Yankees took Astros to game 7 in playoffs last year.
It’s a pretty good argument. I lean Astros but I’ll work through that shit come post season
I gotta ride Yankees in exchange for the sadness and pain they will deliver unto the Sawks.
Sanlmar misses the fact that the Dodgers got to Game 7 of the World Series. Had they started Wood instead of Darvish, they could be defending champs.
They did screw up getting Darvish instead of Verlander. It appears they could have had Verlander for relatively cheap.
The current Dodgers are actually doing okay considering the crippling injuries dogging the team -- especially the starting rotation. They've had big surprises out of Muncy, Kemp, and Stripling, thus they stay afloat.
Kershaw might suffer the same early career ending as Sandy Koufax. Kershaw might actually be the best regular season pitcher of all time, though. Look at the numbers.
Fortunately for the Dodgers, nobody in the NL is killing it. The great teams are in the AL this year. Dodgers could easily make it back to the World Series if injuries heal and they grab a player or two before the deadline.
Who's going to beat them? The inconsistent, playoff-choking Nats? The Cubs who haven't improved over last year? The overrated and soon-to-be-sinking Brewers? The inexperienced Braves?
BTW, coming into tonight, the Dodgers lead the NL in home runs, and have the second-most runs scored.
The Dodgers had the alledged best pitcher ever for 10 years and an unlimited payroll. Last year every player had a career year to drive the Dodgers to their best finish during this era.
Dodgers had Greinke and Kershaw ‘13-‘15 and I would submit that Greinke was the better pitcher in ‘15.
How do you fuck that up? Seriously?"Last year, in my opinion, no offense to Jake [Arrieta], Zack [Greinke] was the best pitcher in the game," Kershaw told MLB.com. "He’s tough to replace.
Results were poor.
Dodgers were so close. Just a few pieces away. Greinke/Kershaw needed relief. Those pieces never came. There was nothing in their way financially or with trade chips.
Maybe it never would have happened. Neither Greinke or Kershaw could rise to the occasion post season during their careers
Very reminiscent of the Tigers Verlander/Scherzer era. BnP would be the first to school you on that bullpen fail and front office ineptitude.
Those opportunities come about very infrequently for most organizations. Dodgers and Tigers have a long period of rebuilding ahead
Last edited by Sanlmar; 06-13-2018 at 10:55 PM.
Finally Druff, because I need to snuff out the faint hope you still seem to hang on to ...
The D’Backs Paul Goldschmidt absolutely was a wooden indian at the plate in May. .144 avg
The D’Backs kept trotting him out to the plate regardless of the importance of the at bat. They had to let him work through it.
I live bet his at bats by choosing strike out for lulz. He was a lock. Wretched. He had no prayer of making contact. Never saw anything like it. He looked so sad - like he was gonna cry
Meanwhile, the Dodgers benefitted by mathematically appearing close. “Math is idiotic” someone once said.
The cubs are a better team this year than they were last year.
dodgers win a few games now we got druff talking about this shit dodgers team and them winning the world series
A Dodgers fan wrote this. People are funny - especially Dodgers people
19 year old teen phenom & National, Juan Soto, homers twice to beat the Yankees. I just tip my cap.
Soto worked his way through the Nationals minor leagues in 2 years and skipped AAA.
I love that baseball is letting the kids play these days and screwing less & less with service time.
Nats have never made it out of the NLDS.A Dodgers fan wrote this. People are funny - especially Dodgers people
19 year old teen phenom & National, Juan Soto, homers twice to beat the Yankees. I just tip my cap.
Soto worked his way through the Nationals minor leagues in 2 years and skipped AAA.
I love that baseball is letting the kids play these days and screwing less & less with service time.
Dodgers have been to four NLCS since 2008, and one World Series. Huge difference.
Dodgers also have the best record in the NL since 2012.
how many world series have the dodgers won since 2012?
I would rather have a team which perpetually contends and isn't quite there yet than a team which wins the World Series and then is crap for years.
I am also a Lakers fan, and I loved their championship teams, but it has been frustrating watching them for the past several years when they've been awful. I've pretty much ignored them because I know they have no chance.
While the Dodgers failing to win the World Series for 29 years has been irritating, at least I have been able to enjoy them contending most of the time, especially over the past 13 seasons (they made the postseason in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, and advanced to the NLCS in five of those.)
Sounds like a lot of heartache and frustration spread out of time but winning one and sucking also frustrating so it's close
Sanlmar,
First time caller long time listener. I’m a big fan but feel obligated that I must call you out for your repeated JD Martinez spring training take. You still think Fenway doesn’t suit his swing?
The moral of the story is don’t read too much into spring training.
That being said fuck the Red Sox, Yankees, and Dodgers.
I was monumentally wrong.
*****
Dan Druff won’t be playing this event:
Since June 4th the Yankees have gone under 12 straight games.
Druff name your PriceI would rather have a team which perpetually contends and isn't quite there yet than a team which wins the World Series and then is crap for years.
I am also a Lakers fan, and I loved their championship teams, but it has been frustrating watching them for the past several years when they've been awful. I've pretty much ignored them because I know they have no chance.
While the Dodgers failing to win the World Series for 29 years has been irritating, at least I have been able to enjoy them contending most of the time, especially over the past 13 seasons (they made the postseason in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, and advanced to the NLCS in five of those.)
Lakers win a Championship before the Dodgers.
Dodgers suck cock and r in one of the weakest Divisions in baseball next to the AL Central..
How in the bloody hell were the hapless Dodgers with Maeda on the mound favored vs the Cubs at home in an afternoon game?
This isn’t even a Dodgers hate post. I’m having a great day. I’ll come up with something in the spirit of this fine day.
Dodgers are a bottomless well of fail - I have a few fresh ideas.
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