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    A relative of mine works in real estate development, and has worked in or with title insurance companies for over a decade. We recently discussed how the overwhelming majority of title examiners in those companies are women. Being a title insurance examiner requires an incredible attention to detail. Being a good coder requires attention to detail, but the field is dominated by males. So, if Druff is correct, what's is likely to be the difference between those types of jobs that would result in such polar opposite gender populations
    Honestly Mumbles you sound quite serious, but JFC if you can't tell the difference then there is literally no hope for you.
    Belly, I have some notions about the differences, but prefer to first hear from others who believe that sexual dimorphism would naturally result in such labor market gender differences absent any cultural influences.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    One of my companies works out of a tech incubator in Chicago. There are more female coders than male coders. It’s refreshing to see. Promoting science to women early on in life is going to help us a lot in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
    One of my companies works out of a tech incubator in Chicago. There are more female coders than male coders. It’s refreshing to see. Promoting science to women early on in life is going to help us a lot in the future.
    If I were an investor and found this out I would bail. I have worked with decent women coders but the real geniuses that drive the projects are always men. On a team of 9 coders there are 3 that do over 50% of the work and of those 3 people 2.9 of them are men. Why would you create a team that is doomed to be mediocre at best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    http://money.cnn.com/technology/divi...-conservatives

    This isn't just hyperbole.

    I have friends who work in Silicon Valley who have told me the exact same stuff as said in this video. Basically, if you admit you're a conservative, or if you dare speak out about anything from a conservative point of view, you will get pushed out of the company and fired for some flimsy reason.

    LOL ideological intolerance
    I feel very bad for your snowflake friends. I hope they can find a safe space soon.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
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    One of my companies works out of a tech incubator in Chicago. There are more female coders than male coders. It’s refreshing to see. Promoting science to women early on in life is going to help us a lot in the future.
    If I were an investor and found this out I would bail. I have worked with decent women coders but the real geniuses that drive the projects are always men. On a team of 9 coders there are 3 that do over 50% of the work and of those 3 people 2.9 of them are men. Why would you create a team that is doomed to be mediocre at best?

    There are over 1000 people there daily... around 600 are female. The incubator has been very successful
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
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    If I were an investor and found this out I would bail. I have worked with decent women coders but the real geniuses that drive the projects are always men. On a team of 9 coders there are 3 that do over 50% of the work and of those 3 people 2.9 of them are men. Why would you create a team that is doomed to be mediocre at best?

    There are over 1000 people there daily... around 600 are female. The incubator has been very successful
    Because young women/girl's have until recently been discouraged from getting into coding, Deal's extant experience is undoubtedly biased at least in part because the male coder talent pool was traditionally much larger than the female one, resulting in a much higher likelihood that the super-coders would be males.

    But that doesn't exclude the possibility that there is something biologically inherent among males that *on average* makes *more of them* better at coding than females and/or *some of them* much better than even the best female coders. We just don't know enough about potential differences in male and female physiology to definitively rule out an inherent sexual dimophic factor.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    I have a friend who works in medical device sales. Does really well. He knows he can’t talk politics as everyone in management are right-wing zealots. He just goes to work and avoids the subject like a grownup. Doesn’t whine and cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
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    If I were an investor and found this out I would bail. I have worked with decent women coders but the real geniuses that drive the projects are always men. On a team of 9 coders there are 3 that do over 50% of the work and of those 3 people 2.9 of them are men. Why would you create a team that is doomed to be mediocre at best?

    There are over 1000 people there daily... around 600 are female. The incubator has been very successful
    What is their racial breakdown? How many native americans in positions of power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
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    There are over 1000 people there daily... around 600 are female. The incubator has been very successful
    What is their racial breakdown? How many native americans in positions of power?
    Very diverse. I’d say 40% white females
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    I have noticed that these boot camps I have quite a few females. No idea of the exact breakdown but of the only people I know who graduated from them and have been successful they are all women. But development comes in many many different flavors these days.

    I agree that if you are trying to develop some very complicated software you do not want a team of women. However having women run a company and run it in a specific way geared towards women could be golden. If your product is something like Etsy or something like that

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    I have owned and run software businesses for the last 12 years and worked in software for another 10 years.

    50% of my staff have been female, so I'm not looking at this from a misogynistic viewpoint. Women are just better at (and therefore more attracted to) certain roles. These are analysis, testing, implementation, project management, general management, admin, finance, marketing and sales. For god sake have women in sales.

    But the blokes are just better at (and therefore more attracted to) software dev and to some degree ops and support. This is shown through by the number of applicants and the quality of applicants - measured by in-tray exercises.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    Women are just better at (and therefore more attracted to) certain roles. These are analysis, testing, implementation, project management, general management, admin, finance, marketing and sales.
    also: fucking, cooking and cleaning

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