**Official UFC thread**

[peter mcneil]

I agree with all this, I don't think he's going to get equity in the company but he can and has already made demands the UFC would never consider from another fighter.

I also believe he's completely overrated as an MMA fighter. He's got dangerous power but he has no cardio and he doesn't fight well under adverse conditions. His star power will fade as he gets in there with the best competition consistently.

None of this matters right now, today. The numbers he pulls are so far ahead of what anyone else ever has that he really is bargaining from a unique position the UFC has never faced. Names like Liddell, Jones and Silva are hilariously behind the numbers Conor pulls, they are generally half at best and often a third of McGregor's ppv buy rates.

Consider, however, that has not fought in the UFC for _a fucking year_ and the ppv numbers for their last event were insane.

On top of which, Conor might be running out of belt contenders/holders he can beat.

Conor without any support from the rest of the card will pull larger numbers for his next fight than this last mega card with GSP's return did. I wouldn't be surprised if he beats it by 20%. Conor also fought a fight in the last year that did 6m ppv buys. He wasn't sidelined doing fuck all, if anything he may have built a bigger base. The UFC has had a rough year with ppv numbers. Rousey is gone, Lesnar is gone, Jones is gone for awhile. Again I'm not saying he will get equity but to suggest he's just another in a long line of stars is ridiculous. He's their biggest star ever by a mile.

Even Dana admits Conor is bargaining with substantially more power than anyone else in UFC's history has. How are we even debating this? The numbers do the talking.

[peter mcneil]

I agree with all this, I don't think he's going to get equity in the company but he can and has already made demands the UFC would never consider from another fighter.

I also believe he's completely overrated as an MMA fighter. He's got dangerous power but he has no cardio and he doesn't fight well under adverse conditions. His star power will fade as he gets in there with the best competition consistently.

None of this matters right now, today. The numbers he pulls are so far ahead of what anyone else ever has that he really is bargaining from a unique position the UFC has never faced. Names like Liddell, Jones and Silva are hilariously behind the numbers Conor pulls, they are generally half at best and often a third of McGregor's ppv buy rates.

Turns out the fight show isn't much different than other industry like acting, singing etc. The best do not always get the credit they deserve and popularity with it. A lot of better men have fought and haven't gotten the attention simply because Connor marketed himself the likes MMA has never seen. Goes to show how well you capitalize on a win is more important than who, how or why you got it.

Props for what he has done should come more from a marketing stand point than his actual fighting ability.

No doubt about it. He got smoked by a guy who sits between 5-10 in the rankings at 155lbs and looked awful in a sloppy albeit exciting rematch and we still have guys in this very thread suggesting he'd beat the hell out GSP, the greatest 170lber of all time who just won the MW title. The marketing is insane. But it all comes down to the numbers, he makes the UFC insane money, that also includes what the UFC made off the Mayweather fight, which apparently was their largest pay day of the year. Think about that, the UFC made the most off any event this year in a sport they don't even promote, just because Conor was involved. That man makes the UFC huge money and he is without a doubt in a historically unique negotiating position with the UFC.

[GambleBotsSatire]

conor vs gsp in skydome for 185lb title, instantly sells 50-60k tickets and does huge ppv

we talking scrooge mcduck bucks

[peter mcneil]

conor vs gsp in skydome for 185lb title, instantly sells 50-60k tickets and does huge ppv

we talking scrooge mcduck bucks

I always thought they would do this fight at 170 but at 185 its even better. If he loses (he will) the UFC can say their main man went to 185 and took on the all time GOAT, make him out to be a hero even in losing. Keep his drawing power alive for another fight or two

I think a GSP vs Conor fight does at least 1.6m buys and has a shot at 2m.

[DonaldTrumpsHairPiece]

conor vs gsp in skydome for 185lb title, instantly sells 50-60k tickets and does huge ppv

we talking scrooge mcduck bucks

So promoted as the first man to have a belt in 3 classes?

[DJ_Chaps]

conor vs gsp in skydome for 185lb title, instantly sells 50-60k tickets and does huge ppv

we talking scrooge mcduck bucks

So promoted as the first man to have a belt in 3 classes?

Promoted as Conor's retirement match, maybe. GSP tools Conor, easily.

[PuppyMonkeyBaby]

conor vs gsp in skydome for 185lb title, instantly sells 50-60k tickets and does huge ppv

we talking scrooge mcduck bucks

Never happen at that weight.. Remember Conner was 4lbs below WW limit at 166 when he fought Diaz and you want him to put on another 20lbs.. Hed look like a white DC Cormier at that weight or more like an Irish Potato honestly.. I think many would love to see GSP and Connor go at it and GSP was willing to drop to 155 so let him.. Conner vs GSP for the 155 belt Conner has shoved up his ass and refuses to defend (If it was anybodyelse Dana and UFC would've already stripped him of the title since its not an injury issue like it was with a certain Heavyweight Champ who wreck his motorcycle and couldn't fight for 2 yrs..

Thus if GSP wins then he is the true GOAT and first man to be a three time champ in different weight classes (170,185,155).

[peter mcneil]

The best selling ppv of 2017 is still well below all of McGregor's last 4 fights and almost half Diaz vs McGregor 2.

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/ufc-2...oriously-high/

[Crowe Diddly]

Bellator announces its (mostly) heavyweight tournament.

- Fedor Emelianenko
- Frank Mir
- Roy Nelson
- Matt Mitrione
- Bellator Light Heavyweight Champion Ryan Bader
- Rampage Jackson
- King Mo
- Chael Sonnen

Scott Coker keeping it fun.

[peter mcneil]

Bellator announces its (mostly) heavyweight tournament.

- Fedor Emelianenko
- Frank Mir
- Roy Nelson
- Matt Mitrione
- Bellator Light Heavyweight Champion Ryan Bader
- Rampage Jackson
- King Mo
- Chael Sonnen

Scott Coker keeping it fun.

Love the line up. I almost think Bader might be the favorite.

[simpdog]

Bellator announces its (mostly) heavyweight tournament.

- Fedor Emelianenko
- Frank Mir
- Roy Nelson
- Matt Mitrione
- Bellator Light Heavyweight Champion Ryan Bader
- Rampage Jackson
- King Mo
- Chael Sonnen

Scott Coker keeping it fun.

A lot of these guys are washed up but I guarantee this will get me watching Bellator in 2018.

[simpdog]

[Shizzmoney]

LOL Anderson pissed hot again

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/11/...hai-main-event

and LOL Conor smacking an MMA official

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/10/conor-...confrontation/

[Crowe Diddly]

MMA is the best sometimes.

Was listening to the JRE today, with Billy Corgan. Recommended.

about 3/4's in, Billy asks Joe a question about Daniel Cormier and how the fuck someone could mentally deal with losing the belt then the opponent testing hot. Joe then went into a speculative story on what may be the single craziest way I've ever heard of to fail a drug test.



1:28:53 in. You'll enjoy it, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb-mU6wgeF8&t=1h28m53s

[GambleBotsSatire]

do thy talk about corgan owning the NWA?

[Crowe Diddly]

do thy talk about corgan owning the NWA?

maybe 5 minutes about that, and his time with tna. much more about the pumpkins, how the music biz works, how bands self-destruct, etc.

[Kuntmissioner]

about 3/4's in, Billy asks Joe a question about Daniel Cormier and how the fuck someone could mentally deal with losing the belt then the opponent testing hot. Joe then went into a speculative story on what may be the single craziest way I've ever heard of to fail a drug test.



1:28:53 in. You'll enjoy it, I think.

Chinese creatine y'all

[shortbuspoker]

LOL Anderson pissed hot again

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/11/...hai-main-event

and LOL Conor smacking an MMA official

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/10/conor-...confrontation/

Chael's 2 cents on Connor

[peter mcneil]

LOL Anderson pissed hot again

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/11/...hai-main-event

and LOL Conor smacking an MMA official

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/10/conor-...confrontation/

Chael's 2 cents on Connor

I enjoy all of the content Sonnen puts out. A lot of great stories from his wrestling and MMA days.

[simpdog]

Bisbing going to fight Gastelum on Nov 25