Active shooter in Las Vegas

[SetofKs]

I am pretty sure it is already known the security guard was there to check on some alarm that Paddock had set off before he started his slaughter, and the security guard had no idea what he was walking into.

i thought they said that paddock hadn't set off that alarm. it was another guest. i'm way behind tho. getting caught up on my studies

[ErickAA]

At this point I think most people would agree there is a cover up going on, it is just a matter of how much and the motives of the cover up.

I personally believe Mandalay Bay and the LVPD are just covering up their slow response to mitigate the legal fallout and lawsuits, and most of the more exotic conspiracy theories are false.

[limitles]

At this point I think most people would agree there is a cover up going on, it is just a matter of how much and the motives of the cover up.

I personally believe Mandalay Bay and the LVPD are just covering up their slow response to mitigate the legal fallout and lawsuits, and most of the more exotic conspiracy theories are false.

I realize I'm diving into the shallow end but still........

How much worse will it be if there is a cover-up? Unless Santa financed this it's enough already and we've got the holidays to get ready for.

[RealNoNameYet]

Now saying a guard who was on the floor looking at jammed door was shot by the shooter. This occurred 10 minutes prior to the start of the shootings. Don't know if this was already mentioned

A second guard was shot 10 mins before Paddock opened up on the crowd below?

Is that official?

I think he is talking about the maintenance Worker they have thrown into the story now.


LAS VEGAS -- A maintenance worker said Wednesday he told hotel dispatchers to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino hotel before the shooter began firing from his high-rise suite into a crowd at a nearby musical performance.

The revised timeline has renewed questions about whether better communication might have allowed police to respond more quickly and take out the gunman before he committed the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Worker Stephen Schuck says he was checking out a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay when he heard gunshots and a hotel security guard, who had been shot in the leg, peeked out from an alcove and told him to take cover.


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I believe Police/Fbi/Media are back tracking and adding shit Because theres to many eye witnesses/Victems that Know what happened. Theres tomany Video's and eye witnesses They all cant be lieing. Jason Aldean would be the 1 person to talk to in my eyes he saw it all. He was watching trying to figure it out as he was playing.
They all know more than this bullshit we are being told on tv.

[sonatine]

Nothing has been more detrimental to the forensic analysis of this event than the internet.

[snake_in_the_ass]

I read on twitter that Paddock ordered a BLT with tomatoes on the side an hour before the shooting.

[vegas1369]

For the people that can't seem to grasp the fact that most hotels in Vegas don't have cameras in the hallways, here's some easy reading...

http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/big-bro...otel-hallways/

[SetofKs]

For the people that can't seem to grasp the fact that most hotels in Vegas don't have cameras in the hallways, here's some easy reading...

http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/big-bro...otel-hallways/

lol there is a lot of shit about this case that people can't grasp, that isn't out of the ordinary at all.

still some very strange things that i think we should have some fun studying tho

[vegas1369]

Possible scenario...

Paddock had been planning to do this for a while, and on several occasions had rented out rooms overlooking concerts, including a week earlier at Life is Beautiful, but never went through with it. Quite possible he backed out each time, until Route 91. IMO there are 3 possible scenarios...

1) He was just rehearsing, doing r & d.

2) He felt his casualty rate would be low, maybe limited avenues of escape

3) He lost his nerve and backed out

The night in question he gets pretty wasted. Well documented he was a heavy drinker. Maybe is running really bad over the course of his trip, very pissed.. contemplating doing what he set out to do. Maybe having second thoughts. Has all his calculations worked out... but... Then he sees the security guard in the hall, sets off his anger at Mandalay, or maybe he had a rift with security earlier, or just hates security guards..... and just says "fuck it", kill the security guard and go to town... shoots the security guard and fires multiple shots into the hallway... Might as well see how awesome those cameras work that he set up...

Takes 6 minutes to take out the windows...

Ratta tat tat... Drunkenly shoots at fuel tanks, too fucked up to realize he knows that's pointless without the tracer bullets he drove ten hours to AZ to get and failed...

Shooting wildly into crowd... pauses, can't believe what he's doing.. Has another "ah, fuck it" moment.... shoots wildly into crowd again... that probably happened a few times until finally the reality of what he'd done sets in... onset of massive depression and anger... later world...

Can't wait to see his BAC and what his wins/losses were that week.

Also, pretty evident now someone at Mandalay Bay security fucked up massively. It's the only thing that makes sense. Need to know when the first call from Mandalay went in to Metro. That will tell a lot.

[RegGaymer]

The guy says he thinks he's been shot in the head:



Take a look and tell me you actually believe this drivel..

If you do, then I'm afraid you are a laughing stock amongst anyone with an iota of common sense.

You think I can be bothered debunking every one of these made for tv gunman operations?

I'm not here to spoon food you toddlers, I can't teach you brother only show you the light.

LOL SPOONFED. IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE NOTHING, AS USUAL. JUST A SHITTY GIMMICK.

Here's one of your #VegasStrong survivors, Corinne Lomas:

https://twitter.com/corinnelomas

Check her out doing a media interview:



And again, you can see her doing another interview at the bottom of this article:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/461683...-mandalay-bay/

But young Corinne has previously appeared as a guest / actor on Dr. Phil, as a self proclaimed narcissist:



I suppose this is just one big coincidence eh Chaps?

[SetofKs]

LOL SPOONFED. IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE NOTHING, AS USUAL. JUST A SHITTY GIMMICK.

Here's one of your #VegasStrong survivors, Corinne Lomas:

https://twitter.com/corinnelomas

Check her out doing a media interview:



And again, you can see her doing another interview at the bottom of this article:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/461683...-mandalay-bay/

But young Corinne has previously appeared as a guest / actor on Dr. Phil, as a self proclaimed narcissist:



I suppose this is just one big coincidence eh Chaps?

Possibly proof that shes a narcissist, but what else is it proof of?

[RegGaymer]

Just a fyi, but the extras that appear on these reality tv dramas are fully paid up.

There's a similar show over here called Jeremy Kyle, and all the rubes love sitting around at home on their benefit scrounging arses watching it - thinking that it's real life - little do they know, that it's all scripted.

People don't just go on tv and tell the world that they are a raving narcissist for free.

Point being, she was paid to act on Dr. Phil, and has been recruited to play her part in this latest stunt.

Here Twitter bio reads #PRAY4VEGAS #VegasStrong #Route91Survivor

It doesn't take a genius to piece it together and figure she has been made to sign a gag order, and been paid in exchange for her terrible acting and continued corroboration towards this fraudulent cause.

[SetofKs]

Just a fyi, but the extras that appear on these reality tv dramas are fully paid up.

There's a similar show over here called Jeremy Kyle, and all the rubes love sitting around at home on their benefit scrounging arses watching it - thinking that it's real life - little do they know, that it's all scripted.

People don't just go on tv and tell the world that they are a raving narcissist for free.

Point being, she was paid to act on Dr. Phil, and has been recruited to play her part in this latest stunt.

Here Twitter bio reads #PRAY4VEGAS #VegasStrong #Route91Survivor

It doesn't take a genius to piece it together and figure she has been made to sign a gag order, and been paid in exchange for her terrible acting and continued corroboration towards this fraudulent cause.

Shes not a part of any drama. At most shes just a whore pretending she was there to get attention. There were supposedly 22k people at that concert, would be easy to lie and say you were there, when you weren't. Are there any selfies of her at the concert? If there are, then we can take this conspiracy angle farther.

[SetofKs]

People don't just go on tv and tell the world that they are a raving narcissist for free.

You aint been around enough crazy bitches in yer lifetime. Many of them will say anything to get on nation television.

[RegGaymer]

The wiki article on the shooting itself reads:

"He was well known in local gambling circles"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

But on Paddock's wiki it says:

"He was not well known among high-stakes gamblers in Las Vegas"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock

Bit of a contradiction right there, so what is it?

Someone who is meant to have been an advantage player, putting in thousands of hours playing video poker across several Vegas casinos, you'd think he would have been known. Yet nobody seems to know him, except his 'brother' who has made many - many - media appearances to do interviews. As if you would be so eager to let the world know that you are related to a mass murderer.

And besides, where is the motive?

This is supposed to be a multi millionaire, a licensed pilot who owned two Planes, that liked to play video poker.

A guy with no military training, yet is equipped to fire off thousands of rounds at innocent civilians - and for what reason exactly?

And where are the shell casings in the pictures of his room?

Case closed!

[SetofKs]

The wiki article on the shooting itself reads:

"He was well known in local gambling circles"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

But on Paddock's wiki it says:

"He was not well known among high-stakes gamblers in Las Vegas"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock

This is very fucked up. Is it possible to see who exactly is updating these wiki pages? You may be on to something.

[DonaldTrumpsHairPiece]

Anything is possible but do not believe he was massively drunk and just decided to do it then and there.

Why, he was calculating his shots! The paper don't lie, guy was doing math while massively drunk on a whim? no way.

[SetofKs]

I think he did this because of gambling. Not because of gambling losses, just because of gambling. Did you guys read his deposition in the lawsuit? He said in 2006 he played VP 14 hours a day, for 365 days. That isn't a healthy lifestyle, and could certainly turn a guy nuts. When asked if he ever went to the pools at the hotels he stayed at he said "I don't do sunlight"...... Guy sounds like the most unhealthy freak ever.

[Mintjewlips]

Possible scenario...

Paddock had been planning to do this for a while, and on several occasions had rented out rooms overlooking concerts, including a week earlier at Life is Beautiful, but never went through with it. Quite possible he backed out each time, until Route 91. IMO there are 3 possible scenarios...

1) He was just rehearsing, doing r & d.

2) He felt his casualty rate would be low, maybe limited avenues of escape

3) He lost his nerve and backed out

The night in question he gets pretty wasted. Well documented he was a heavy drinker. Maybe is running really bad over the course of his trip, very pissed.. contemplating doing what he set out to do. Maybe having second thoughts. Has all his calculations worked out... but... Then he sees the security guard in the hall, sets off his anger at Mandalay, or maybe he had a rift with security earlier, or just hates security guards..... and just says "fuck it", kill the security guard and go to town... shoots the security guard and fires multiple shots into the hallway... Might as well see how awesome those cameras work that he set up...

Takes 6 minutes to take out the windows...

Ratta tat tat... Drunkenly shoots at fuel tanks, too fucked up to realize he knows that's pointless without the tracer bullets he drove ten hours to AZ to get and failed...

Shooting wildly into crowd... pauses, can't believe what he's doing.. Has another "ah, fuck it" moment.... shoots wildly into crowd again... that probably happened a few times until finally the reality of what he'd done sets in... onset of massive depression and anger... later world...

Can't wait to see his BAC and what his wins/losses were that week.

Also, pretty evident now someone at Mandalay Bay security fucked up massively. It's the only thing that makes sense. Need to know when the first call from Mandalay went in to Metro. That will tell a lot.

Let's say this is 100% true, why the secrecy with the police and FBI, I know it's an on going investigation but the official narrative layed out BY the authorities has changed so much.

Your scenario sounds totally logical and makes sense, so why not just come right out with this scenario?

Obviously there is a level that hasn't revealed itself, well atleast not to you.

Im willing to accept your scenario, I'll add that maybe the Mandalay bay is on overdrive to cover their ass from the hell they are about to get and maybe are working with authorities to make sure they come out with the best possible scenario that would cost them the least amount of money, no doubt the number will still be high.

[Mintjewlips]

The wiki article on the shooting itself reads:

"He was well known in local gambling circles"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

But on Paddock's wiki it says:

"He was not well known among high-stakes gamblers in Las Vegas"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock

Bit of a contradiction right there, so what is it?

Someone who is meant to have been an advantage player, putting in thousands of hours playing video poker across several Vegas casinos, you'd think he would have been known. Yet nobody seems to know him, except his 'brother' who has made many - many - media appearances to do interviews. As if you would be so eager to let the world know that you are related to a mass murderer.

And besides, where is the motive?

This is supposed to be a multi millionaire, a licensed pilot who owned two Planes, that liked to play video poker.

A guy with no military training, yet is equipped to fire off thousands of rounds at innocent civilians - and for what reason exactly?

And where are the shell casings in the pictures of his room?

Case closed!

Bro you know this was a deep state operation.....sfo.