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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
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    I thought only 'tine went on 4chan.

    In that case. tine, please confirm my 4chan alien story (I followed the trail via twitter.)

    Historically speaking, now is a bad time to hang out on 4chan.

    But snap 24hr banning anyone who questioned an obviously fake alien picture is exactly the sort of brilliance that site was famous before, at least before moot sold it and went to work for Google.
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    The bannings were genius.

    After decades of searching, UFO truthers genuinely believed that full disclosure was imminent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belly Buster View Post
    Macron wins, Le Pen has conceded defeat.
    Macron being pro-EU was the difference...obvious to the French (and everyone) the EU will be much better now that the Brits are leaving

     
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    First round of voting seen 50% of all votes going to anti EU candidates.


    Macron's win was not an EU endorsement from French voters. It was a snub to the fascist Le Pen.


    That said. 1 in 3 still voted for a fascist candidate. And notably, a large portion of the 1 in 3 were young voters.


    If Macron fucks this up (French Prime Ministers always fuck it up), and we see these continued terror attacks (which we will), then Le Pen will, without question, win in 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post


    That said. 1 in 3 still voted for a fascist candidate. And notably, a large portion of the 1 in 3 were young voters.
    Its worrisome but people who are emotionally adolescent tend to take a "THIS WHOLE WORLD IS BULLSHIT SO ILL VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITE OF IT" line. Id chalk this up to ISIS, Russia, young Arab males acting like human vermin in EU back yards than a grassroots attraction to fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    That said. 1 in 3 still voted for a fascist candidate. And notably, a large portion of the 1 in 3 were young voters.
    Its worrisome but people who are emotionally adolescent tend to take a "THIS WHOLE WORLD IS BULLSHIT SO ILL VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITE OF IT" line. Id chalk this up to ISIS, Russia, young Arab males acting like human vermin in EU back yards than a grassroots attraction to fascism.


    Would love to agree. But

    The vast majority of young people in Britain voted remain. But I think that may of been different if we'd seen ISIS and their AK-47's turning London concert halls into warzones.


    And that's the point. Those 1 in 3 will be even more hardened come 2022. While ISIS will just up their attacks, knowing it will increase the Far Right vote. As having a fascist French President goes a long way to creating the Holy War which they so crave.


    Radical Islam has already conquered American minds. Europe is next. Then some years down the line, we will have a genuine worldwide Christian vs Islam military situation (That's their hope anyway.) Because it makes up a huge part of their endgame.

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    calm down fagland no one cares about you anymore dont make me drop the eric trump pic

     
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    like literally tip of my tongue before i use that to order doordash zankou chicken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    Its worrisome but people who are emotionally adolescent tend to take a "THIS WHOLE WORLD IS BULLSHIT SO ILL VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITE OF IT" line. Id chalk this up to ISIS, Russia, young Arab males acting like human vermin in EU back yards than a grassroots attraction to fascism.


    Would love to agree. But

    The vast majority of young people in Britain voted remain. But I think that may of been different if we'd seen ISIS and their AK-47's turning London concert halls into warzones.


    And that's the point. Those 1 in 3 will be even more hardened come 2022. While ISIS will just up their attacks, knowing it will increase the Far Right vote. As having a fascist French President goes a long way to creating the Holy War which they so crave.


    Radical Islam has already conquered American minds. Europe is next. Then some years down the line, we will have a genuine worldwide Christian vs Islam military situation (That's their hope anyway.) Because it makes up a huge part of their endgame.

    American minds come pre-conquered. A nation of great thinkers we are not.

    Honestly I think Great War between Islam and Christianity is already fizzing out. Team Islam really stepped up their game but Europe remembers WW2. That shit wasnt an abstraction for yall. An occasional bus exploding or concert getting shot up is gross but a lot of living people in Europe remember the firestorms, because they were literally in them.

    That said if Trump doesnt finish what he started, who knows. Maybe Putin slips a few suitcase nukes into Chechnya and lets nature take its course. Then all bets are off of course. But pending that caliber of ruin, I think Europeans are, by and large, not wired to embrace xenophobic fear the way Americans are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Le Pen never had a chance. The French are in too deep on the socialist agenda to pull back now.

    Good for them. I don't think it's a wise decision a better decision would have been a moderate.

    Maybe the country ends up better for it.

    They're also by and large better educated/socially aware and, to crib a line from Bukowski, their mothers have been told to shut up by jack booted thugs.

    To measure European politics by an American yardstick is .. well.. exactly the sort of instinct that puts drug addicted reality tv stars in the most powerful elected office on earth.
    Exactly. Anyone expecting a mid right, let alone far right, agenda to win in France doesn't have a finger on the pulse of what's going on in the EU.

    It would be far more telling if the Right pulled it off.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Would love to agree. But

    The vast majority of young people in Britain voted remain. But I think that may of been different if we'd seen ISIS and their AK-47's turning London concert halls into warzones.


    And that's the point. Those 1 in 3 will be even more hardened come 2022. While ISIS will just up their attacks, knowing it will increase the Far Right vote. As having a fascist French President goes a long way to creating the Holy War which they so crave.


    Radical Islam has already conquered American minds. Europe is next. Then some years down the line, we will have a genuine worldwide Christian vs Islam military situation (That's their hope anyway.) Because it makes up a huge part of their endgame.

    American minds come pre-conquered. A nation of great thinkers we are not.

    Honestly I think Great War between Islam and Christianity is already fizzing out. Team Islam really stepped up their game but Europe remembers WW2. That shit wasnt an abstraction for yall. An occasional bus exploding or concert getting shot up is gross but a lot of living people in Europe remember the firestorms, because they were literally in them.

    That said if Trump doesnt finish what he started, who knows. Maybe Putin slips a few suitcase nukes into Chechnya and lets nature take its course. Then all bets are off of course. But pending that caliber of ruin, I think Europeans are, by and large, not wired to embrace xenophobic fear the way Americans are.

    All so true. And I obviously hope your read is correct.


    Just the rise and momentum of the Far Right in Europe is not something we've seen for more than 70 years. Honestly concerns me.

    These cunts are on mainstream TV wearing suits now. No longer is it just skinheads marching through towns waving Nazi flags.


    lulz side note

    Macron hasn't been sworn in yet and he's already trolling Britain over Brexit.

    He tweeted this from his celebratory concert.



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    really nothing i compared tines face to a firebombed city and LITERALLY NOTHING

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