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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    What about BetOnline?

    Are they any good?

    Reivews I've seen don't look bad, and they have dime lines.
    I know you don't read this thread. I just posted today about them

    I am 100% satisfied. Customer service is excellent. I have had a few questions about how wagers were graded.
    Always prompt follow up.

    Payment has been top top for years.

    I notice a lot of improvement peripheral to sports. Poker just went mobile.

    Look, do what you want with the 20c line issue. You were the guy placing bets on Bovada which is the benchmark for stupid lines as you scan offerings on SBR or whatever.

    A good price is a good price regardless of the spread. I LOVE the live interface. I almost exclusively bet live by phone and NEVER a hitch. Timing is key live. They do not fuck with me as I press the place bet button. Experienced people on other sites know what I refer to.

    Almost forgot, BOL is often among the first out on the overnight lines which has value for me.

    No one has ever answered my question that I've asked here 10 times or so. If Bovada's lines are "stupid" wouldn't they occasionally be stupid in your favor? Sure, no one would ever use Bovada if you were only allowed one sportsbook but if are a line shopper wouldn't Bovada or any book that has lines in no mans land be good? I personally don't use Bovada anymore and am no shill for them but this attitude about Bovada being bad because their lines don't match up has always confused me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit View Post
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    I know you don't read this thread. I just posted today about them

    I am 100% satisfied. Customer service is excellent. I have had a few questions about how wagers were graded.
    Always prompt follow up.

    Payment has been top top for years.

    I notice a lot of improvement peripheral to sports. Poker just went mobile.

    Look, do what you want with the 20c line issue. You were the guy placing bets on Bovada which is the benchmark for stupid lines as you scan offerings on SBR or whatever.

    A good price is a good price regardless of the spread. I LOVE the live interface. I almost exclusively bet live by phone and NEVER a hitch. Timing is key live. They do not fuck with me as I press the place bet button. Experienced people on other sites know what I refer to.

    Almost forgot, BOL is often among the first out on the overnight lines which has value for me.

    No one has ever answered my question that I've asked here 10 times or so. If Bovada's lines are "stupid" wouldn't they occasionally be stupid in your favor? Sure, no one would ever use Bovada if you were only allowed one sportsbook but if are a line shopper wouldn't Bovada or any book that has lines in no mans land be good? I personally don't use Bovada anymore and am no shill for them but this attitude about Bovada being bad because their lines don't match up has always confused me.
    Of course, you're right. This speaks to my "a good price is a good price"

    Bovada punks the public side with a little extra. Even beyond the 20c thing. If you want to know what the dumb money is doing you look at Bovada.

    Example: I took the chalk on Boston on BOL @ -145 / +135. Bovada -155 / +135
    Sometimes Bovada is so bad it's good as BGC points out.

    If I HAD to pick sides every day on a slate of games on a 20c menu vs 10c certainly I go broke faster. But no one bets that way Druff. You buy selectively. You see if it's out of line.

    It's such a stupid argument I feel less a man for posting a response to the 20c issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit View Post


    No one has ever answered my question that I've asked here 10 times or so. If Bovada's lines are "stupid" wouldn't they occasionally be stupid in your favor? Sure, no one would ever use Bovada if you were only allowed one sportsbook but if are a line shopper wouldn't Bovada or any book that has lines in no mans land be good? I personally don't use Bovada anymore and am no shill for them but this attitude about Bovada being bad because their lines don't match up has always confused me.
    Of course, you're right. This speaks to my "a good price is a good price"

    Bovada punks the public side with a little extra. Even beyond the 20c thing. If you want to know what the dumb money is doing you look at Bovada.

    Example: I took the chalk on Boston on BOL @ -145 / +135. Bovada -155 / +135
    Sometimes Bovada is so bad it's good as BGC points out.

    If I HAD to pick sides every day on a slate of games on a 20c menu vs 10c certainly I go broke faster. But no one bets that way Druff. You buy selectively. You see if it's out of line.

    It's such a stupid argument I feel less a man for posting a response to the 20c issue
    I had no clue they were 20 cent. I know before when my questions went unanswered they had 10 cent lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit View Post


    No one has ever answered my question that I've asked here 10 times or so. If Bovada's lines are "stupid" wouldn't they occasionally be stupid in your favor? Sure, no one would ever use Bovada if you were only allowed one sportsbook but if are a line shopper wouldn't Bovada or any book that has lines in no mans land be good? I personally don't use Bovada anymore and am no shill for them but this attitude about Bovada being bad because their lines don't match up has always confused me.
    Of course, you're right. This speaks to my "a good price is a good price"

    Bovada punks the public side with a little extra. Even beyond the 20c thing. If you want to know what the dumb money is doing you look at Bovada.

    Example: I took the chalk on Boston on BOL @ -145 / +135. Bovada -155 / +135
    Sometimes Bovada is so bad it's good as BGC points out.

    If I HAD to pick sides every day on a slate of games on a 20c menu vs 10c certainly I go broke faster. But no one bets that way Druff. You buy selectively. You see if it's out of line.

    It's such a stupid argument I feel less a man for posting a response to the 20c issue
    Your answer about Bovada is correct.

    The 20c issue shouldn't make you feel like less of a man, but it's simple mathematics. Sportsbooks make money because people think their picks are so good that the juice doesn't matter. It's not true. Most of the time the line is correct, and randomness is dictating whether you're hot or cold. The rest of the time your success or failure will be dictated by the times when you really have a correct basis for making your picks, or alternatively, when your thinking is so flawed that it leads you to the WRONG picks.

    But the bottom line is that it's still a game of math, and if you ignore the math, you will lose.


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    I live on SBR. I know the comparative lines and movement

    If you think your pick is so good juice doesn't matter etc ... correct Druff

    If you squeeze the vegetables and compare prices ... often 20c is as good as 10c or you might pass

    25% reload
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    Accepting bets is a service you pay for

    If you think the difference between success and failure is the 20c vs 10c., then we fundamentally disagree on the bigger issues with wagering

    You run your units how you run your units. I'll do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Strasburg / Grienke/Liriano/ Keuchel

    Moneyline Parlay

    I put like $75 to win like $950 or something
    LFG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    63 years ago today -- May 5, 1954, a crappy pitcher made his first Major League start, and did terribly.

    He never got much better.

    One of those guys who just wasn't destined to have much of a career in baseball.

     


    HILLARY WON

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    I'm surprised everyone in here is taking a X book vs Y book approach.

    A real sharp would take a book with .40 lines, any out is a good out so long as it pays. Do homework, get to a lean, shop for the best number, bet it and Cash. Don't worry about how much the book is making and from whom, so long as they aren't doing crazy promotions that can't win (indicative of a scam).

    I have outs a sharp books where I generally bet overs and favorites, I have outs at square books where I tend to bet dogs and unders.

     
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    who do you guys like in the derby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlunderMaker View Post
    who do you guys like in the derby?
    Favorites I'm on - 15/17

    Long Shots I like - 2/8/11

    I also have one all long shots ticket because it sort of feels like that kind of year.

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    Padres +1.5 +120
    Padres +213
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlunderMaker View Post
    who do you guys like in the derby?
    The real money in these big races is with exacta and trifecta boxes and include some longer odds in your picks. Should always include one horse trained by Todd "Milkshake" Pletcher. I think he's got the odds favorite right now.

    I'm going with an exacta box of Always Dreaming, Gunnevera, and Hence
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    Made my first baseball bet tonight that I picked. Chi v nyy over 7.5. 5-0 1st inning. Wish I weren't so feckless. Would be appreciative of any ideas for tomorrow. Any sport will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Made my first baseball bet tonight that I picked. Chi v nyy over 7.5. 5-0 1st inning. Wish I weren't so feckless. Would be appreciative of any ideas for tomorrow. Any sport will do.
    8-0 Bust your cherry

    Play of the day ... fade Cubs and ride Yankees all day. Last I looked Cubs 1st inning ERA was 9.5 Gotta be worse now.

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    Edit:
    2017 Cubs are giving up the most runs in the 1st inning of any team in the last decade. hard to find stats past 2007

    Maybe the worst ever.

    So much value fading the Cubs fanboys and god I love the Yankees. Easily the most money off one team I've made this year. Some dumb luck, but I'll stick it out there for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Made my first baseball bet tonight that I picked. Chi v nyy over 7.5. 5-0 1st inning. Wish I weren't so feckless. Would be appreciative of any ideas for tomorrow. Any sport will do.
    8-0 Bust your cherry

    Play of the day ... fade Cubs and ride Yankees all day. Last I looked Cubs 1st inning ERA was 9.5 Gotta be worse now.

    Accepted:
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    Mobile - Baseball - MLB - 929 New York Yankees +116 for Game

    Edit:
    2017 Cubs are giving up the most runs in the 1st inning of any team in the last decade. hard to find stats past 2007

    Maybe the worst ever.

    So much value fading the Cubs fanboys and god I love the Yankees. Easily the most money off one team I've made this year. Some dumb luck, but I'll stick it out there for them.
    Forget the Cubs' first inning. Focus on Brett Anderson. He's horrendous. Auto-fade provided the line is not too steep (tonight you got a dog!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    Padres +1.5 +120
    Padres +213
    Padres -1.5 +430
    Not a wise move with a bad offensive team against Kershaw.

    In fact, Kershaw thrives in these situations. He absolutely kills teams with weak offenses. I know you were attracted to the Dodgers facing a left-hander, but this was the wrong day to do it.

    The Padres +1.5 +120 was the best of the three.

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    Golden State -135 live bet

     
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