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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintjewlips View Post
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    CHOOOO CHOOOOOO AMERICA IS ON THE TRUMP TRAIN AND IT AINT HOPPING OFF YOU FUCKING SELF HATING MASOCHISTIC LEFT WING SCUM!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintjewlips View Post
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    look, i never claimed to be the Leo Nardo of mathematics but at least there were news articles saying that romney got more votes than trump, which you can google right now. and i will not have my intelligence questioned by you, even if you're living the good life working for a company with $5 billion in profits

     
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    Just say you're wrong jfc, i don't need a long winded explanation.

    I spelled michelangelo wrong because im not a sophisticated art fag, and you foolishly thought mitt romney got more popular votes then trump, it's ok life goes on.
    News articles Blake is thinking of are likely the ones saying Trumps share of the popular vote was smaller than Romneys. 46.2% is smaller than 47% to non David Vincies of arithmatics.

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    Here's what I can't understand for the life of me....

    Trump ran his campaign on (7) primary talking points

    1) America First

    2) Keep illegal aliens the fuck out of this country & build the wall

    3) Bring back jobs to the U.S.A.

    4) Take better care of our veterans

    5) Control government spending and reduce the ballooning national debt

    6) invest in rebuilding the military and the countries crumbling infrastructure

    7) repeal and replace the disaster otherwise known as Obamacare

    Personally, I think that's one hell of a lineup for his presidential itinerary.

    I just can't comprehend how liberals can object to a single one of those objectives.

    I mean yes, of course Trump is brash and unorthodox, but even the most diehard far left Democrat has to concede the undeniable fact that the man loves this country.

    Is he an egomaniac ? No doubt about it. But the fact remains that he's clearly dedicated to taking care of America before we shell out billions of dollars in foreign aid to random shitholes around the globe.

    We have a multitude of major problems right here in our own back yard with skyrocketing national debt to the tune of $62,000 for each and every taxpayer in the country.

    Trump is SPOT ON when he talks about blatant currency manipulation by the Chinese, not to mention the fact that we have been getting royally buttfucked on the vast majority of our trade deals.

    Obama care is obviously a massive train wreck and in dire need of a massive overhaul


    And I could care less if we deport every single last Muslim from this country. Islam is a toxic ideology that has no place in the United States of America. Germany is a textbook example of how NOT to address the prospect of dealing with refugees.

    Despite his multitude of flaws and unpolished approach, Trump is the right man for the job.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Here's what I can't understand for the life of me....

    Trump ran his campaign on (7) primary talking points

    1) America First

    2) Keep illegal aliens the fuck out of this country & build the wall

    3) Bring back jobs to the U.S.A.

    4) Take better care of our veterans

    5) Control government spending and reduce the ballooning national debt

    6) invest in rebuilding the military and the countries crumbling infrastructure

    7) repeal and replace the disaster otherwise known as Obamacare

    Personally, I think that's one hell of a lineup for his presidential itinerary.

    I just can't comprehend how liberals can object to a single one of those objectives.

    I mean yes, of course Trump is brash and unorthodox, but even the most diehard far left Democrat has to concede the undeniable fact that the man loves this country.

    Is he an egomaniac ? No doubt about it. But the fact remains that he's clearly dedicated to taking care of America before we shell out billions of dollars in foreign aid to random shitholes around the globe.

    We have a multitude of major problems right here in our own back yard with skyrocketing national debt to the tune of $62,000 for each and every taxpayer in the country.

    Trump is SPOT ON when he talks about blatant currency manipulation by the Chinese, not to mention the fact that we have been getting royally buttfucked on the vast majority of our trade deals.

    Obama care is obviously a massive train wreck and in dire need of a massive overhaul


    And I could care less if we deport every single last Muslim from this country. Islam is a toxic ideology that has no place in the United States of America. Germany is a textbook example of how NOT to address the prospect of dealing with refugees.

    Despite his multitude of flaws and unpolished approach, Trump is the right man for the job.
    i don’t think most liberals object to those 7 issues you listed, although you’re way off on #5. trump never talks about reducing the debt and there’s a ton of articles out now talking about how house republicans have no idea how to budget for all the spending trump wants to do (e.g., the wall, tax cuts, infrastructure, increased military spending) without cutting entitlement programs, which he promised he wouldn’t do.

    your point about deporting all muslims is obv crazy and no liberal would get behind that.

    speaking as someone fairly moderate, my problem isn’t so much with his agenda (aside from the muslim ban), but his immaturity and narcissism.

    simply put, he sounds like a petulant child 24/7. even his supporters will concede that. i just don’t trust him to make good decisions in times of crisis and don’t know how anyone can disagree. there are reports that steve bannon and jared kushner were in the briefing room when plotting the yemen attack, which didn't go real well. other reports say trump was mean tweeing nordstrom during a security briefing. if, after listening to him speak for any period of time, you say you have no concerns over his temperament and trust his judgment, you're just lying.

    note that this doesn’t mean i liked hillary. i didn't. it's not an either/or thing

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    Federal court says no travel ban.

    Federal appeals court maintains suspension of Trump’s immigration order

     
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    US appeals court upholds suspension of Trump travel ban

    A federal appeals court in San Francisco has refused to reinstate President Donald Trump's ban on travelers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday wouldn't block a lower-court ruling that suspended the ban and allowed previously barred travelers to enter the U.S. An appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court is possible.

    The Supreme Court has a vacancy, and there's no chance Gorsuch, will be confirmed in time to take part in any consideration of the ban.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/09/appea...ter-today.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    UHOH

    US appeals court upholds suspension of Trump travel ban

    A federal appeals court in San Francisco has refused to reinstate President Donald Trump's ban on travelers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday wouldn't block a lower-court ruling that suspended the ban and allowed previously barred travelers to enter the U.S. An appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court is possible.

    The Supreme Court has a vacancy, and there's no chance Gorsuch, will be confirmed in time to take part in any consideration of the ban.
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    I don't know if the libtards actually care about refugees, i think they just get gratitude from the illusion of trump losing, like its sick to think that they hate trump so much that the satisfaction of trump being denied by the courts is greater then the satisfaction of refugees being allowed to escape their shit hole countries.

     
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    I bet the Oval Office looks like its just been burgled.


    Reckon Spicer will show up for his presser tomorrow wearing sunglasses too.
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    to be fair, the 9th circuit is kind of a joke and is constantly reversed, but who knows what will happen with the supreme court split. charles krauthammer just made a great point on fox which was that trump botched this by issuing the ban before his supreme court justice was in place

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    They've dehumanized trump so much they actually think of him as dirt, Joseph Goebbels would be proud of our media, seems like they took his methodology to a new level, why hate one group of people when you can get everyone to hate themselves and guilt them into submission.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    to be fair, the 9th circuit is kind of a joke and is constantly reversed, but who knows what will happen with the supreme court split. charles krauthammer just made a great point on fox which was that trump botched this by issuing the ban before his supreme court justice was in place
    Supreme Court will reverse 100%.

    Not because it's right or because I agree with it. Literally because the law says he can.

    "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

    Trump could literally ban entry of Muslims if he saw fit.

    It's the fucking law!!! If we can't uphold and enforce our laws why even have them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
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    to be fair, the 9th circuit is kind of a joke and is constantly reversed, but who knows what will happen with the supreme court split. charles krauthammer just made a great point on fox which was that trump botched this by issuing the ban before his supreme court justice was in place
    Supreme Court will reverse 100%.

    Not because it's right or because I agree with it. Literally because the law says he can.

    "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

    Trump could literally ban entry of Muslims if he saw fit.

    It's the fucking law!!! If we can't uphold and enforce are laws why even have them?
    i'm not sure which side i think should win, but i think it's a little less clear than what you're saying as there are conflicting laws. the Immigration and Nationality Act gives the president the authority to ban any “alien or class of aliens” from entering the US, but it also prohibits discriminating against someone applying for a visa “because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.”

    also, i know people who are not in this country don't have the same constitutional rights as people physically here, but i've seen it debated that a complete ban on a religious group may, in fact, be unconstitutional.

    for the record i think it's dangerous for courts to interfere with the president's authority on national security matters, so if it's a close call, it should prob go to the president

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Supreme Court will reverse 100%.

    Not because it's right or because I agree with it. Literally because the law says he can.

    "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

    Trump could literally ban entry of Muslims if he saw fit.

    It's the fucking law!!! If we can't uphold and enforce are laws why even have them?
    i'm not sure which side i think should win, but i think it's a little less clear than what you're saying as there are conflicting laws. the Immigration and Nationality Act gives the president the authority to ban any “alien or class of aliens” from entering the US, but it also prohibits discriminating against someone applying for a visa “because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.”

    also, i know people who are not in this country don't have the same constitutional rights as people physically here, but i've seen it debated that a complete ban on a religious group may, in fact, be unconstitutional.

    for the record i think it's dangerous for courts to interfere with the president's authority on national security matters, so if it's a close call, it should prob go to the president
    "Any" seems fairly clear to me.

    Honestly, Trump's play here is pretty simple, but the country would melt down, stock market would implode and Congress would turn on him. The play is just to write a ban on all nations entering the US immediately. Lacks discrimination and gives the middle finger to the Liberal 9th Circuit.

    I think a simple solution is to ban single men over the age of 21 from entering the country from those seven countries. But I am sure that wouldn't pass the test above even though it passes the common sense test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
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    i'm not sure which side i think should win, but i think it's a little less clear than what you're saying as there are conflicting laws. the Immigration and Nationality Act gives the president the authority to ban any “alien or class of aliens” from entering the US, but it also prohibits discriminating against someone applying for a visa “because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.”

    also, i know people who are not in this country don't have the same constitutional rights as people physically here, but i've seen it debated that a complete ban on a religious group may, in fact, be unconstitutional.

    for the record i think it's dangerous for courts to interfere with the president's authority on national security matters, so if it's a close call, it should prob go to the president
    "Any" seems fairly clear to me.

    Honestly, Trump's play here is pretty simple, but the country would melt down, stock market would implode and Congress would turn on him. The play is just to write a ban on all nations entering the US immediately. Lacks discrimination and gives the middle finger to the Liberal 9th Circuit.

    I think a simple solution is to ban single men over the age of 21 from entering the country from those seven countries. But I am sure that wouldn't pass the test above even though it passes the common sense test.
    Wouldn't work.

    Terrorists would adjust, and start setting up fake families for terrorists to come with, or simply send ones under 21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    "Any" seems fairly clear to me.

    Honestly, Trump's play here is pretty simple, but the country would melt down, stock market would implode and Congress would turn on him. The play is just to write a ban on all nations entering the US immediately. Lacks discrimination and gives the middle finger to the Liberal 9th Circuit.

    I think a simple solution is to ban single men over the age of 21 from entering the country from those seven countries. But I am sure that wouldn't pass the test above even though it passes the common sense test.
    Wouldn't work.

    Terrorists would adjust, and start setting up fake families for terrorists to come with, or simply send ones under 21.
    True, but if you get asked a bunch of random questions (kind of like checking on fake marriages already), facts would start to fall apart.

    Also, the fact that 70% of the immigrants into Germany are single men is a fucking disaster.

    It's how you end up with hundreds of rapes and sexual assaults in a single night in one town in Germany.

    TV stations love to show the immigrants are all these family and children and the vast majority of them are single adult men who left their families behind often times to die.

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    ^^ I didn't know any of this. That's pretty messed up.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    ^^ I didn't know any of this. That's pretty messed up.
    Whoops looks like the 300 number was wrong, actually 1200.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

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