**Official UFC thread**

[BeerAndPoker]

Why bother having an interview with Dom and Cody?

Beep beep. Can't hear beep

FYP

[Crowe Diddly]

LOVE the way these 2 are talking to each other. fun ass fight.

[sonatine]

sage has absolutely atrocious ring discipline.

[sonatine]

sage is totally fucking retarded.

[Shizzmoney]

Took Gall by sub. Jim Miller style BJJ is just too damn good.

[BeerAndPoker]

sage has absolutely atrocious ring discipline.

I forgot how bad Sage take down defense is but he can't defend himself in any part of fighting and is just out there trying to be karate boy.

[simpdog]

And honestly Sage doesn't seem to have any heart.

Oh shit I took a shot. Better shoot and oh shit he has me night as well tap.

Pussy

[sonatine]

sage has absolutely atrocious ring discipline.

I forgot how bad Sage take down defense is but he can't defend himself in any part of fighting and is just out there trying to be karate boy.

every stupid decision he could make, he made. im just floored. he doesn't have a killer instinct, he does not give enough of a fuck about winning.

all he had to do was stay on the outside and work against a dogshit opponent with literally no head movement.

and every single chance he had, he ended up getting sucked into a takedown instead of just backing away and doing his fuckin job.

[sonatine]

hes like uriah hall without the talent.

[BeerAndPoker]

I forgot how bad Sage take down defense is but he can't defend himself in any part of fighting and is just out there trying to be karate boy.

every stupid decision he could make, he made. im just floored. he doesn't have a killer instinct, he does not give enough of a fuck about winning.

all he had to do was stay on the outside and work against a dogshit opponent with literally no head movement.

and every single chance he had, he ended up getting sucked into a takedown instead of just backing away and doing his fuckin job.

yea he looked like he gave two shits just showing up for the paycheck. I stayed away but would have bet him if I was forced to and been on the wrong side of it.

Sage was thinking more about protecting his face instead of winning this fight. If he gets too many bruises he can't do that Abercrombie or whatever spring fashion magazine photo shoot.

[sonatine]

every stupid decision he could make, he made. im just floored. he doesn't have a killer instinct, he does not give enough of a fuck about winning.

all he had to do was stay on the outside and work against a dogshit opponent with literally no head movement.

and every single chance he had, he ended up getting sucked into a takedown instead of just backing away and doing his fuckin job.

yea he looked like he gave two shits just showing up for the paycheck. I stayed away but would have bet him if I was forced to and been on the wrong side of it.

Sage was thinking more about protecting his face instead of winning this fight. If he gets too many bruises he can't do that Abercrombie or whatever spring fashion magazine photo shoot.

i mean, im not saying he was there for a paycheck personally, but he acted like a guy who believed his own bullshit. like he watches top ten fighters and says 'oh yeah i can do that, i can protect off my back, i can do reversals, so i dont need to tweak my fucking game to play up my advantages because somehow that isnt within the tao of fighting'.

meanwhile the dudes above him in the rankings arent petroleum engineer majors trying to live out their bruce fucking lee fantasies, they are athletes from various third world backwaters around the world who grind their way to wins with training, guts, and listening to their fucking coaches gameplans.

and they make tonight's sage northcutt look like a fuckup dilettante.

the only good news here is that anyone from matt brown and up on the ladder is going to fuck gall sideways then wipe off on his corpse.

[BeerAndPoker]

lol woman's mma

Then they go to a commercial with Paige in it lol

[simpdog]

At least Paige had more heart than Sage lol

She at least made attempts to get out of the choke.

[sonatine]

i will say this much, i dont think sage had anywhere to go in that choke. he was wrapped up completely, it was under his chin, and its the only thing gall is good at so it was time to tap.

[BeerAndPoker]

Paige did show heart it's just she has a LONG way to go. People were hyping her up way too early without fighting anyone decent.

It obviously would be great for UFC if she would have gone on winning before her loss to Rose and now this one so they have that young cute, sweet girl everyone loves angle that can bring new fans to mma but she wasn't ever ready for the spotlight.

I haven't watched a boxing fight in a while and Bernard Hopkins makes for a borefest mostly but it's his last fight so I'll definitely be watching that in a bit.

[sonatine]

when paige is 'on', shes something to be reckoned with. but when shes not firing on all cylinders, she just.. fuckin.. sucks. tonight paige was literally swinging at air.

[Crowe Diddly]

from Big Dave Meltzer http://www.f4wonline.com/ufc-news/uf...-lesson-226751


UFC ON FOX 22 RATINGS TEACH AN IMPORTANT MARKETING LESSON

BY DAVE MELTZER

Last night's UFC on FOX show told a marketing lesson that can't be ignored.

A show headlined by Paige VanZant vs. Michelle Waterson and Mickey Gall vs. Sage Northcutt did 2.69 million viewers on the fast nationals.

The number is 17 to 20 percent above what the December shows have done the past three years with championship fights headlining in 2013 and 2015 and a top heavyweight fight of Junior Dos Santos vs. Stipe Miocic as the 2014 main event.

Urijah Faber's retirement fight may have also played heavily into the number. In the arena, it was clearly the real main event at the Golden 1 Center in Sacramento.

The fast nationals measure the first two hours of the show everywhere but the West Coast, etc etc

[sonatine]

gall is dropping to 155, and since he cant beat anyone on the ladder currently he's called out dan hardy, who hasnt fought for 4 years.

[BeerAndPoker]

When he said that last night about how he will be the champ at 155 in a few years and wants Dan Hardy I couldn't help but laugh thinking surely he isn't serious but he is lol. That fight does what for his career? Dan Hardy was a liked fighter but never a main draw back then and certainly not now.

[Crowe Diddly]

That fight does what for his career?

How much more obvious can it be?

Mickey's a young guy with some tools and a little skill who, by virtue of calling out each of his opponents, is way more well-known among casual fans than way, WAY more than half the roster, probably 4/5's of the roster, really. He turned his very first fight (Dead Serious MMA, that hotbed of prospects) into a UFC spot that an insane number of people knew about relative to the skill involved. Beat a guy who wasn't even half a guy, then gets a spot (a main card spot, right before the co-main) on a UFC PPV, beats that can, then talks his way into getting Sage to fight him when he had no real reason to and co-headline a fox card with him, which he obv wins. So he calls out yet another guy with a well-known name but with some massive flaws, Dan HArdy, and if that fight ever happens, it will be in the spotlight of a PPV main card or a fight night main or co-main event or some shit like that.

Or, he could do what every other jamook in the UFC does, which is try to fight better guys every time, get starched a bunch of times, take who the UFC gives him, and live out his career as a UFC journeyman who probably ends up getting dropped and re-signed a few times over the years, makes no real money at all, has no fame to speak of, and takes a shitload more damage than a guy who's playing the game the way it's currently best played in the UFC.

If you don't understand what Mickey has already done and what he's currently trying to do, you probably still get angry when the #1 contender gets skipped over for title fights because some other cat grabbed the spotlight and took that shit for himself (Hi, Cody GArbrandt! Dumb as rocks but knows how the game works). But that's how it works, whether we want it to be that way or not. Mickey knows a top 10 guy ends his run in dramatic fashion, but a younger hungry fighter (w solid wrestling) facing an older famous fighter who really wants to stand and has no wrestling to speak of (some bjj sure, but 0 wrestling) who hasn't fought in fuck knows how long? Yeah, Mickey knows what he's doing for sure.

And even if he doesn't get the Dan HArdy fight, ppl are still talking about him and it a few days later. Mickey's on the MMA Hour today I think too, which is probably the best show a fighter can get on, and he's been on a bunch of times already.

Dan Hardy was a liked fighter but never a main draw back then and certainly not now.

Guy was in the main or co-main event over and over, against ppl like GSP, Condit, Swick, Rumble, Amir whatever, Chris Lytle, etc. Either the main or co-main every one of those.

edit: Gall was just on the phone with the mmahour, and they brought on Dan HArdy via skype. Hardy said the fight just wouldn't make sense for him, but he'd love to grapple with Gall, either at Polaris or EBI or one of those. So Gall's call-out will likely result in him getting a paycheck without even having to get punched in the face. Not bad for a fairly low-level fighter who we didn't even know existed a year ago.