Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
Wonder if hes going to the KGC for a license.. Apparently its only $35,000 to apply (of which $10k is refundable if the license is denied.. Anybody ever heard of the KGC denying a license I haven't).. Of course the caveat there is you have to run your servers through their provider which they control on their reservation in Quebec.. (don't ask me how I know all this )

Looked into it once honestly.. Was curious what the requirements were considering that's how FTP got their license and ran their site.. Always thought of running a site if I had the cash on hand to start up and or had the partners to do so.. Hence part of my commentary on another thread as to find a way to run a site without running afoul like Micon did.. Technically I may have the ability here in AZ if I run it as rake free and just charge a monthly membership. AZ has some odd loopholes that if you aren't directly benefitting (ala Rake) social gambling is legal within the state.. The last few places to get raided were charging rake directly and therefore ran afoul of the law..If your charging a membership fee separately (would have to be monthly I believe to be legal and not some weird loophole of a membership fee per week or per session) and not collecting rake from the games and tournaments directly it would likely be legal and also would eliminate the risk of any player pool money as there would no reason to touch the funds of players as they could sit in say a bitcoin wallet for example and simply pay back out when somebody wished to cash out funds.. Still toying with the idea at this point and also going to get some legal opinions including if I must from the State itself using their own language in order to CYA.. I think it could be set up fairly reasonably and low overhead to make a modest income potentially on the membership side and offer some games a lot of sites don't possibly as well as the real positive of rakefree online poker in this day and age when everybody is bitching about the rake.. Who wouldn't want to find a place where they could play rake free for a small monthly membership fee.. The key is finding a way to be legal and run afoul of laws here in AZ shouldn't be too hard based on how they word the laws

7. "Social gambling" means gambling that is not conducted as a business and that involves players who compete on equal terms with each other in a gamble if all of the following apply:


(a) No player receives, or becomes entitled to receive, any benefit, directly or indirectly, other than the player's winnings from the gamble.

(b) No other person receives or becomes entitled to receive any benefit, directly or indirectly, from the gambling activity, including benefits of proprietorship, management or unequal advantage or odds in a series of gambles.

(c) Until June 1, 2003, none of the players is below the age of majority. Beginning on June 1, 2003, none of the players is under twenty-one years of age.

(d) Players "compete on equal terms with each other in a gamble" when no player enjoys an advantage over any other player in the gamble under the conditions or rules of the game or contest.

13-3302. Exclusions

A. The following conduct is not unlawful under this chapter:


1. Amusement gambling.

2. Social gambling.

3. Regulated gambling if the gambling is conducted in accordance with the statutes, rules or orders governing the gambling.

4. Gambling that is conducted at state, county or district fairs and that complies with section 13-3301, paragraph 1, subdivision (d).