Time to get on the TRUMP train

[ToasterOven]

Don't be surprised if Trump influences future candidates. With so many blue collar white supporters, a candidate without Trump's baggage could run on no entitlement reform, nationalism, big spending on infrastructure etc, and ditch the donor's pet issues.

Things we now know.... "christian conservatives" don't seem to care about religion much, rank and file Republicans don't give a shit about tax cuts for the wealthy, and no party wants to cut social security.

An under reported story this year was the Republicans had 6 contenders (10 non contenders) with essentially the exact same policy plans, and Trump.

They need to stop worrying about their own base and figure out how to attract the unaffiliated or moderate Democrats.

Trump actually managed to do that, to some degree. That's how guys like Marty got so excited about him. When was the last time you saw Marty crowing about a Republican candidate?

Unfortuantely, what was good about Trump was also what was bad about Trump, and he turned off more people than he turned on. And so here we are.

But yes, if you're trying to say that a Republican candidate with a more populist appeal might do well next time, you might be right. Trump won the primary because the party was out of touch with the desires of its base. But they'll have to get beyond their own base to ever win again.

But it's not even populism. Rank and file Republicans don't care about the debt, deficits or abortion. It seemed like none of the main stream candidates felt like they could wander at all in the last two cycles, think Romney.

Imagine if Romney hedged on abortion. Imagine if Kasich had a plan that left the top marginal tax rate, cut taxes in the middle and said he was personally pro life but felt the state should stay out of it (like Tim Kaine). Conventional wisdom was that there was no gray area on these issues in the Republican primary, but Trump has shattered that notion.

Hard right might be a crowded lane in 2020 with Cruz, maybe Ryan, maybe Tom Cotton, Rubio etc. Someone could grab the center right.

[Mintjewlips]

UH OH

http://www.infowars.com/political-sc...-the-election/

[Henry]

[Mintjewlips]

Pretty funny.

There are idiots on both sides, idiots that will vote for either candidate no matter what.

[Mintjewlips]

You guys have to admit this is hillarious




Im surprised she didn't go for the Brooklyn accent when she was a new york senator

[DirtyB]

UH OH

http://www.infowars.com/political-sc...-the-election/

There's a 99.9% chance that you will believe any ridiculous shit that confirms your existing beliefs. Notice the complete lack of methodology and source data.

In the last two Presidential elections, the only state FiveThiryEight has predicted incorrectly is when Obama won Indiana by less than 1%. They have it over 88% for Hillary, which lines up with every betting site's odds.

[Mintjewlips]

UH OH

http://www.infowars.com/political-sc...-the-election/

There's a 99.9% chance that you will believe any ridiculous shit that confirms your existing beliefs. Notice the complete lack of methodology and source data.

In the last two Presidential elections, the only state FiveThiryEight has predicted incorrectly is when Obama won Indiana by less than 1%. They have it over 88% for Hillary, which lines up with every betting site's odds.

So you needed methodology and source data to tell you Obama would beat Mc Cain and Romney? How naive are you? Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections. There's a 99% chance you're a delusional libtard.

Betting lines change every minute, to gauge the outcome of this election by using betting lines when the election is more then a couple of months ahead is just asinine.

[DirtyB]

Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections.

Based on what?

[Mintjewlips]

Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections.

Based on what?

Are you serious?

Obama has more charisma in his half white index finger then Mc Cain and Romney combined. Do i really need to explain this to you? Being that you are a bleeding heart libtard, i don't think i need to spell it out for you.

[DirtyB]

Based on what?

Are you serious?

Obama has more charisma in his half white index finger then Mc Cain and Romney combined. Do i really need to explain this to you? Being that you are a bleeding heart libtard, i don't think i need to spell it out for you.

John McCain is very charismatic. You're basing your analysis entirely on hindsight.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

Based on what?

Are you serious?

Obama has more charisma in his half white index finger then Mc Cain and Romney combined. Do i really need to explain this to you? Being that you are a bleeding heart libtard, i don't think i need to spell it out for you.

He left you with the the perfect opportunity to say "Professor Norpoth's model". Are you even trying?

[ToasterOven]

There's a 99.9% chance that you will believe any ridiculous shit that confirms your existing beliefs. Notice the complete lack of methodology and source data.

In the last two Presidential elections, the only state FiveThiryEight has predicted incorrectly is when Obama won Indiana by less than 1%. They have it over 88% for Hillary, which lines up with every betting site's odds.

So you needed methodology and source data to tell you Obama would beat Mc Cain and Romney? How naive are you? Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections. There's a 99% chance you're a delusional libtard.

Betting lines change every minute, to gauge the outcome of this election by using betting lines when the election is more then a couple of months ahead is just asinine.

You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

[BiffCo99]

So you needed methodology and source data to tell you Obama would beat Mc Cain and Romney? How naive are you? Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections. There's a 99% chance you're a delusional libtard.

Betting lines change every minute, to gauge the outcome of this election by using betting lines when the election is more then a couple of months ahead is just asinine.

You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

[ToasterOven]

You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

Exhibit a

[SetofKs]

Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections.

Based on what?

Common sense. Despite my afilliation with Trump now, I voted Obama the first time, and was almost positive he would win. 2nd time I didn't bother voting, but I wanted Obama to win, and the polls had me thinking he was at least 96% to win.

I don't remember much about that time period, but I remember the news said obama was 0.5% favorite, yet betting sites had him as a massive favorite. Thats when I realized the news sites kept their polls close just to keep people interested.

[hongkonger]

You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

[BiffCo99]

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

There has never been such a high level of open hostility across the board from the left towards the Republican nominee like we're seeing now with Trump.

I mean, look at this epic thread as one tiny example. The libtards like you are out in full force claiming anyone who supports Trump is a racist or an idiot. Sure they used some of the same tactics against McCain and Romney but this election is some next level shit. Which is why the Trump Closet could be such a force come November.

Now just sit back and tremble in fear as you await your October Surprise!

[BCR]

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

Yep. Last two elections the closet vote was that people didn't want to be branded racist so they told the pollsters they were voting Obama, but they really wouldn't come Election Day.

Where are these closet Trump fans? Trump fans are the loudest and most vocal group I've ever heard. I can't get the fuck away from some old dumbass wanting to talk Trump every day. If there exists Trump closet fans, they live in NYC and SF and don't matter anyway, because here in swing state America they won't shut the fuck up. This is why they are always shocked when they lose. Normal people just keep their shit to themselves and then vote.

[thesidedish]

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LOL @ LIBERALS NOT KNOWING HOW SMALL 1% IS

Seriously, that's how dumb u are, you don't even know what the first # means. Hopeless much??

[ToasterOven]

We're seeing the exact same response as 2012.

1. Don't you see how many people are at the rallies?

2. There's a ton of people that the polls don't find voting for the Republican

3. Cherry picking one good poll and saying "See?"

The wing nut media is going to convince these poor, ignorant, weak minded bean bags that their guy is going to win. Who breaks down on Fox this time a la Karl Rove?