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    jones staring down the barrel of a mandatory 2 year ban here.


    gg career.


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    LOOOOOOL.
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    if you restart the stream and turn the volume up.

    Does someone say "FUCK THIS SHIT" right at the start?

     
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      sonatine: noticed it as well, and its 100% def cormier

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    there is very little solid info about this anyplace beyond that presser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    there is very little solid info about this anyplace beyond that presser.
    apparently the show went on with no cameras rolling.


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    Cormier looks very pissed as he should be financially but he keeps the title for longer.


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    choke on it, scumbag.
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    OOOOOOO THIS COULD VIOLATE JONES PROBATION YALL
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    just came home and saw the news. faaaakkkkkk...

    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    OOOOOOO THIS COULD VIOLATE JONES PROBATION YALL
    guess we just have to see what he popped for, but holy fuck, it best not be an illegal substance. here's the standard New Mexico probation paragraph on drugs and shit:
    • Drugs: I will not buy, sell, consume, possess or distribute any controlled substances except those legally prescribed for my use by a State Certified Medical Doctor. I will also provide urine or breath test specimens for laboratory analysis upon request of the Probation and Parole division.

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    It was obv. he was using ped's. I wondered if he had the rumored undetectable testosterone since his brothers are in the NFL. If it's coke then wow.

    PEDs is my bet, there was a pic a while back of him lifting way to much weight to be natty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    It was obv. he was using ped's. I wondered if he had the rumored undetectable testosterone since his brothers are in the NFL. If it's coke then wow.

    Yet he was clean for his return fight. herp derp.
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    What is everyone's thoughts on Diaz vs McGregor?

    Conor looks like he's been working hard and is huge, he must be walking around at close to 180 right now and should be a monster when he cuts weight.

    I think he was far too cocky the first time, put the weight on too quickly and it looked like his timing was off from the get-go first time round as a result.

    My early thoughts are he destroys Diaz this time. No disrespect to Diaz either as his last few fights have been career best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    What is everyone's thoughts on Diaz vs McGregor?

    Conor looks like he's been working hard and is huge, he must be walking around at close to 180 right now and should be a monster when he cuts weight.

    I think he was far too cocky the first time, put the weight on too quickly and it looked like his timing was off from the get-go first time round as a result.

    My early thoughts are he destroys Diaz this time. No disrespect to Diaz either as his last few fights have been career best.

    Diaz will always be bigger, faster, and more effective. If you can name me one discipline where Conor has Diaz pipped, I'd love to hear it.

    Short of a cut stoppage in the first, Conor's going to wilt under a constant barrage of pressure and insults.
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    What is everyone's thoughts on Diaz vs McGregor?

    Conor looks like he's been working hard and is huge, he must be walking around at close to 180 right now and should be a monster when he cuts weight.

    I think he was far too cocky the first time, put the weight on too quickly and it looked like his timing was off from the get-go first time round as a result.

    My early thoughts are he destroys Diaz this time. No disrespect to Diaz either as his last few fights have been career best.

    Diaz will always be bigger, faster, and more effective. If you can name me one discipline where Conor has Diaz pipped, I'd love to hear it.

    Short of a cut stoppage in the first, Conor's going to wilt under a constant barrage of pressure and insults.
    Diaz is great, one of my favorites. His attitude is awesome... such an individual.

    I think Conor's ground game is underestimated, but in a conventional sense you'd have to say Diaz wins on the ground quite convincingly.

    Conor is faster IMO, but interesting to see what the extra weight does to his hand speed. Last fight he was faster then Nate but didn't connect with enough power, whether this was timing or strength I'm unsure, probably both.
    Conor moves better, again just an opinion.

    Diaz wins in the head game, something Conor is used to owning. This might be significant.

    Respect your view, Tine. Don't want to argue as opinions are just that, looking forward to this fight.
    I'll call it as Conor by KO/TKO.

    I look forward to the weigh-in, think you might be surprised by his size... of course both of them hardly cut-weight last time.

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    The thing is, Conor was faster. At his original weight class. That he can no longer make. Hes also off gear now.

    And I have never, in the 16 years Ive been wagering on MMA, ever seen anyone get faster from packing on mass. In fact, virtually all MMA fighters regard moving up in weight to be the kiss of death. With two notable exceptions (Rumble and Eric Silva), people move up and basically get starched by people from much higher weight classes cutting down. And usually its a one way street because once you move up a weight class, you effectively rewire your twitch time/muscle memory. You basically have a new body to deal with.

    Conor landed on Diaz in the first and actually busted him up bad, but Diaz claims that was more a symptom of him being on a beach in Cabo the week before, eating nachos etc. I dont think Diaz is full of shit there and I think Conor will get stung once and realize instantly that he can never hang with men this size. No one at featherweight touched him like he got touched that night, and Diaz is probably the single worst example of that reality because Diaz spars boxing at 100% with people who literally have calcite knuckles and have been training striking since they were 12, who outweigh him by 40 pounds.

    Again, Conor might be able to find a button to push in the first but the current line for this fight is driven entirely by Conor worshipping euros; he should be a +285 dog here even if you ignore the USADA factor, which you really should not.

     
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    I think Diaz slips under a piss wild haymaker in the first, body locks, trips Conor to side control, fakes the side choke to get mount then toys with him for the cameras before letting him give up his back for the RNC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    The thing is, Conor was faster. At his original weight class. That he can no longer make. Hes also off gear now.

    And I have never, in the 16 years Ive been wagering on MMA, ever seen anyone get faster from packing on mass. In fact, virtually all MMA fighters regard moving up in weight to be the kiss of death. With two notable exceptions (Rumble and Eric Silva), people move up and basically get starched by people from much higher weight classes cutting down. And usually its a one way street because once you move up a weight class, you effectively rewire your twitch time/muscle memory. You basically have a new body to deal with.

    Conor landed on Diaz in the first and actually busted him up bad, but Diaz claims that was more a symptom of him being on a beach in Cabo the week before, eating nachos etc. I dont think Diaz is full of shit there and I think Conor will get stung once and realize instantly that he can never hang with men this size. No one at featherweight touched him like he got touched that night, and Diaz is probably the single worst example of that reality because Diaz spars boxing at 100% with people who literally have calcite knuckles and have been training striking since they were 12, who outweigh him by 40 pounds.

    Again, Conor might be able to find a button to push in the first but the current line for this fight is driven entirely by Conor worshipping euros; he should be a +285 dog here even if you ignore the USADA factor, which you really should not.
    I'd happily even take +200 (2/1) for $50
    Escrow no probs.

    Silly question, best I can get is +110 right now.

    Probably wont even bet this fight.

    Peace.
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    Anyone with tickets should get a refund and then rebuy at fraction of cost . Friend refunded his 1500 tickets then re bought them for half

    Unless you bought from a third party and then you are screwed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post
    Anyone with tickets should get a refund and then rebuy at fraction of cost . Friend refunded his 1500 tickets then re bought them for half
    They should get a refund of some portion no matter how stacked this card is anytime the main event gets cancelled, especially 3 days before it's going to happen. This could have been the fight that sealed the deal for some people to come to Vegas and watch it only for it to be cancelled. That is part of the sport but still.

    All I will say is how does one guy who loses his life for a few years because of multiple life fuck ups claim to be on the right track now do such shit to jeopardize his career?

    No matter what he tested positive for it can't be good and Jones is a dumb fuck for not realizing they will be watching him so much after his recent past failures.

    No matter how talented some fighter is if he's going to screw up this soon after his recent issues then I could give a shit if he ever fights again, nor should anyone else care.

    Jon Jones clearly don't give a shit about the fans so why should anyone care about him?

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