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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    I have an idea for you, G.


    Rather than you tell us how stupid we and our candidates are, why don't you show us why you are choosing your candidate? Discuss the reasons why you feel they will make a good leader. I don't recall seeing anything like that from you....only you and others bashing Trump.

    I'm looking forward to seeing this.

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    Nice try. Deflecting G's question while shifting the burden onto the liberals who are fairly pointing out the racisim, xenophobia, and downright nasty things the GOP Nominee (not even gonna type his name) has done and said.

    even today, the asshole commented that we should be congratulating him on "calling it". (in response to the "radical islamic attacks" in florida)

    Oh, and let me answer your question to G for you: we're choosing our candidates because they're the opposite of yours. they're not bigots, they're not racists, they're not war mongers (i'm not talking about Shillary).


    you're clearly choosing your candidate because you can't seem to see the difference between trolling on the internet, and trolling in real life. And also because, well, i'll just flat out say it: you're a creepy racist dude from the suburbs of chicago, who has family in the racist CPD.

    so yeah, i'm not surprised by anything you say. Well, id be surprised if it was a non racist shitheel comment, but you're never gonna make those are you DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    I have an idea for you, G.


    Rather than you tell us how stupid we and our candidates are, why don't you show us why you are choosing your candidate? Discuss the reasons why you feel they will make a good leader. I don't recall seeing anything like that from you....only you and others bashing Trump.

    I'm looking forward to seeing this.

    Thanks
    You are the worst of all time. We have spoken many, many times about how I choose my candidate. You just keep ignoring me over and over and over again. It's exhausting. You don't give a shit about how I choose my candidates, you just want to tell me why Donald Trump is great and not a bigot, a racist or sexist. I have literally had this conversation with you at least 12 times. Minimum. You just keep ignoring me, and I'd be an idiot to engage you once again when I already know the outcome.
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    Gallo,


    Please post WHY you like YOUR candidate, HERE. When you and I speak, you tend to say very little about your candidate, and just laugh at me about Trump.


    Let everyone HERE know your views and help explain to us why your candidate is a much better solution. You ARE trying to educate everyone, correct? Help us learn.

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    Note: You never explained the judge/attorney situation. If you want to ask me if I believe you are going to tell us why your candidate is great and just continue to tell me why me and other Trump supporters are idiots, I fully expect you not to. I fully expect you to avoid answering today's question, as well as explaining your logic about the judge, and just sit there and type "youre and idiot", "Im done "explaining" to you", etc.


    I will truly be shocked if you answer either. Thats not a dare. Thats not being a smart ass. Im just going by previous examples.

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    i predict before the election drk gets a call one morning telling him hey you dont have to come into work today i have quit drinking coffee

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    Gallo,


    Please post WHY you like YOUR candidate, HERE. When you and I speak, you tend to say very little about your candidate, and just laugh at me about Trump.


    Let everyone HERE know your views and help explain to us why your candidate is a much better solution. You ARE trying to educate everyone, correct? Help us learn.
    i'm not accusing anyone of being a dupe or anything, but the only other person on these boards to ever capitalize words for emphasis the way drk does is 408mike. just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    Gallo,


    Please post WHY you like YOUR candidate, HERE. When you and I speak, you tend to say very little about your candidate, and just laugh at me about Trump.


    Let everyone HERE know your views and help explain to us why your candidate is a much better solution. You ARE trying to educate everyone, correct? Help us learn.
    I'm so stupid for answering you... I must like the punishment....

    I don't like either candidate #1. I don't trust Hillary, I don't like her personality and I don't think she is a particularly good person. Our election system has left me with 2 choices, and I have to choose one if I want my vote to count for anything. Much like Odysseus I have to choose between 2 evils. The only reason Hillary is considered more a centrist among liberals is that she is not very tough on Wall Street and has opposed many of the stricter regulations.

    I have to take experience into account as well. If this were a job interview and you had to choose between only these 2 people for the job, Hillary is far more qualified. She has been First Lady, a Federal Senator and Secretary of State. You might disagree with some of her positions or strategy while she occupied those positions but the wealth of knowledge is invaluable. She is prepared and knows what the job entails.

    However, I strongly dislike her. I don't think it is right that the same families keep getting into power in this country and I would prefer for that to not be the case.

    Donald Trump is a business man. He is an amazing marketer, he knows how to sell himself and just about any brand. When it comes to actually running a company though, he has fallen short time and time again. He is not a good leader and he does not come off as intellectually savvy. He is a terrible manager and that is what is needed to be a good president. I also feel he is a terrible person, a racist, a bigot and a sexist. I feel he is thin skinned and his delicate ego has been documented many times by people who have interviewed him. He constantly begs people to not ask him difficult questions.

    His need for constant approval and his fragile ego are main reasons why I find him unelectible.

    With all that said, I would vote for almost ANYONE other than Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump just happens to be one of the very few people I would not vote for over Hillary (Ted Cruz and Bush would be other examples). If Paul Ryan was in the race I would vote for him over Hillary even though our views on social issues are wildly different. I dislike Hillary that much. But I was given these choices.

    I like to say that I feel that there is a FAR lower chance that Hillary gets a little too excited during a speech and calls the President of Mexico a spic or drops the N-bomb than Trump. I also think that on foreign affairs whether or not I have agreed with some of her decisions, at least she knows what the fuck she is talking about. At least she doesn't say crazy shit like "I'm going to build a wall," and Mexicans can't judge me.... Trump is just comically bad.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    Gallo,


    Please post WHY you like YOUR candidate, HERE. When you and I speak, you tend to say very little about your candidate, and just laugh at me about Trump.


    Let everyone HERE know your views and help explain to us why your candidate is a much better solution. You ARE trying to educate everyone, correct? Help us learn.
    I'm so stupid for answering you... I must like the punishment....

    I don't like either candidate #1. I don't trust Hillary, I don't like her personality and I don't think she is a particularly good person. Our election system has left me with 2 choices, and I have to choose one if I want my vote to count for anything. Much like Odysseus I have to choose between 2 evils. The only reason Hillary is considered more a centrist among liberals is that she is not very tough on Wall Street and has opposed many of the stricter regulations.

    I have to take experience into account as well. If this were a job interview and you had to choose between only these 2 people for the job, Hillary is far more qualified. She has been First Lady, a Federal Senator and Secretary of State. You might disagree with some of her positions or strategy while she occupied those positions but the wealth of knowledge is invaluable. She is prepared and knows what the job entails.

    However, I strongly dislike her. I don't think it is right that the same families keep getting into power in this country and I would prefer for that to not be the case.

    Donald Trump is a business man. He is an amazing marketer, he knows how to sell himself and just about any brand. When it comes to actually running a company though, he has fallen short time and time again. He is not a good leader and he does not come off as intellectually savvy. He is a terrible manager and that is what is needed to be a good president. I also feel he is a terrible person, a racist, a bigot and a sexist. I feel he is thin skinned and his delicate ego has been documented many times by people who have interviewed him. He constantly begs people to not ask him difficult questions.

    His need for constant approval and his fragile ego are main reasons why I find him unelectible.

    With all that said, I would vote for almost ANYONE other than Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump just happens to be one of the very few people I would not vote for over Hillary (Ted Cruz and Bush would be other examples). If Paul Ryan was in the race I would vote for him over Hillary even though our views on social issues are wildly different. I dislike Hillary that much. But I was given these choices.

    I like to say that I feel that there is a FAR lower chance that Hillary gets a little too excited during a speech and calls the President of Mexico a spic or drops the N-bomb than Trump. I also think that on foreign affairs whether or not I have agreed with some of her decisions, at least she knows what the fuck she is talking about. At least she doesn't say crazy shit like "I'm going to build a wall," and Mexicans can't judge me.... Trump is just comically bad.

    Watching you have to mansplain this to 408drk is one of the darkest hours for this forum.

     
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    yyyyikes.... looks like a nerve got touched when i pointed out how creepy 408drk was acting.


    did that word pop up in your divorce papers? does she suck less creepy dicks now, with that mouth she kisses your children goodnight with?
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    Thanks for that, G.

    Keep in mind, you and I both agreed that Hillary has more experience for the position, however, experience doesnt equate to success.


    Also, I didnt ask for you to talk about Trump. I asked for you to describe who you would vote for and why. You didnt list many positives about your candidate, yet you discuss trump and say "he has fallen short time and time again"


    How many times has he succeeded?



    You dont focus on much of anything about him except you still think he called all Mexicans rapists. I explained how you were wrong, using logic, and you still disagree.

    You said he used the word BIGLY, then said it isnt a word, and it actually is. He uses the phrase BIG LEAGUE over and over, and I showed you video, and you still think he messed up. I give you a video where he explains what he said, and even though it came out of his mouth, you state "He's lying" and that he didnt mean what he said.

    you arent going to be neutral and open to this because you have had a bias right from the beginning. When truth is presented to you, you deny it.


    I think you believe that him saying "IM GOING TO BUILD A WALL" means that he will have physical laborers out there, creating a 30 ft high wall, from san diego to the Texas gulf, and then the job is done.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    Thanks for that, G.

    Keep in mind, you and I both agreed that Hillary has more experience for the position, however, experience doesnt equate to success.


    Also, I didnt ask for you to talk about Trump. I asked for you to describe who you would vote for and why. You didnt list many positives about your candidate, yet you discuss trump and say "he has fallen short time and time again"


    How many times has he succeeded?



    You dont focus on much of anything about him except you still think he called all Mexicans rapists. I explained how you were wrong, using logic, and you still disagree.

    You said he used the word BIGLY, then said it isnt a word, and it actually is. He uses the phrase BIG LEAGUE over and over, and I showed you video, and you still think he messed up. I give you a video where he explains what he said, and even though it came out of his mouth, you state "He's lying" and that he didnt mean what he said.

    you arent going to be neutral and open to this because you have had a bias right from the beginning. When truth is presented to you, you deny it.


    I think you believe that him saying "IM GOING TO BUILD A WALL" means that he will have physical laborers out there, creating a 30 ft high wall, from san diego to the Texas gulf, and then the job is done.
    Your arrogant manner in which you think you have proven something sickens me. You said that I am wrong. How fucking arrogant of you. You take this man at his word and therefore reach conclusions of certainty. I do not take him at his word and think he is lying based on an accumulation of things he has said. Many of which I have listed ad nauseum on various threads. You might be able to explain one or 2 things he has said, but added all together it tells a compelling story.

    You have proven NOTHING TO ANYONE! No one here thinks you have proven that Trump didn't call me and my family rapists. You have not proven that Trump didn't call Senator McCain a loser for being a POW, you have not proven that he did not make a sexist joke about M. Kelly being on her period, you have only proven that you are incapable of seeing anything other than your own point of view at any cost.
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    " I don't trust Hillary, I don't like her personality and I don't think she is a particularly good person.

    The only reason Hillary is considered more a centrist among liberals is that she is not very tough on Wall Street and has opposed many of the stricter regulations.


    I have to take experience into account as well. If this were a job interview and you had to choose between only these 2 people for the job, Hillary is far more qualified. She has been First Lady, a Federal Senator and Secretary of State. You might disagree with some of her positions or strategy while she occupied those positions but the wealth of knowledge is invaluable. She is prepared and knows what the job entails. "

    --

    One of my concerns with her is that I believe that she/Bill did a lot of shady shit, and negotiated deals with people where, upon giving them what they wanted, that person then donated to her/Bill's Foundation. I dont think she did many things for the good of the country, but rather for the purpose of lining their pockets and funding bullshit without people easily finding out. She had power, and she used it poorly. Is it "experience"?.....yeah, I guess. She seems like one of the most disingenuous people I have ever heard speak.


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    "He is not a good leader and he does not come off as intellectually savvy. He is a terrible manager and that is what is needed to be a good president."


    Exactly what do you actually know to be able to judge him like that? You dont know much. Not many of us do. You arent qualified to state that with any accuracy.


    You also use the words "I feel" to describe him. Maybe you dont have facts and are just guessing, with very little info to base your opinion on?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    gallo... whats it like, signing checks for drk?
    Anything he has ever been paid he has earned 100%...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    gallo... whats it like, signing checks for drk?
    Creepy Tine


    Also, Gallo, b/w us, you have to laugh a bit at this comment, after your earlier text. LOL!

     
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    drk, many people have rightfully criticized your debate skills here, but i wanted to add some specifics in an effort to help you out cause you're terrible at this.

    the mark of a good debater is being able to concede points. when you do that, you seem reasonable instead of disingenuous. unlike gallo, who admits that hillary is an absolutely terrible candidate, you seem incapable of conceding any of trump's obvious flaws and instead go through a series of mental gymnastics trying to defend each and every one of his idiotic statements.

    trump has many, many flaws. admit them. stop fucking denying that they exist. instead, concede them and tnen explain why you prefer him anyway, just like gallo did. defending everything trump says makes you sound you like you're just trolling us or insane.

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    Senor Gallo can you please do us all a favor and sell drk to Los Zetas

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    drk, many people have rightfully criticized your debate skills here, but i wanted to add some specifics in an effort to help you out cause you're terrible at this.

    the mark of a good debater is being able to concede points. when you do that, you seem reasonable instead of disingenuous. unlike gallo, who admits that hillary is an absolutely terrible candidate, you seem incapable of conceding any of trump's obvious flaws and instead go through a series of mental gymnastics trying to defend each and every one of his idiotic statements.

    trump has many, many flaws. admit them. stop fucking denying that they exist. instead, concede them and tnen explain why you prefer him anyway, just like gallo did. defending everything trump says makes you sound you like you're just trolling us or insane.


    No, you would be wrong. He didnt ask me to go into the things I dislike about Trump, and if you were paying attention (not holding that against you though, as I stated multiple times in old threads) you would have seen me make negative comments against Trump plenty of times.


    If you were to state something about Trump, and it was shitty, you would have to say something along the lines of "DRK, do you agree?". I would then give you my opinion/answer. If you dont ask, how would I know to answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    drk, many people have rightfully criticized your debate skills here, but i wanted to add some specifics in an effort to help you out cause you're terrible at this.

    the mark of a good debater is being able to concede points. when you do that, you seem reasonable instead of disingenuous. unlike gallo, who admits that hillary is an absolutely terrible candidate, you seem incapable of conceding any of trump's obvious flaws and instead go through a series of mental gymnastics trying to defend each and every one of his idiotic statements.

    trump has many, many flaws. admit them. stop fucking denying that they exist. instead, concede them and tnen explain why you prefer him anyway, just like gallo did. defending everything trump says makes you sound you like you're just trolling us or insane.


    No, you would be wrong. He didnt ask me to go into the things I dislike about Trump, and if you were paying attention (not holding that against you though, as I stated multiple times in old threads) you would have seen me make negative comments against Trump plenty of times.


    If you were to state something about Trump, and it was shitty, you would have to say something along the lines of "DRK, do you agree?". I would then give you my opinion/answer. If you dont ask, how would I know to answer?
    do you have autism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    gallo... whats it like, signing checks for drk?
    Anything he has ever been paid he has earned 100%...

    Cool, I would just assume it would be awkward bankrolling an aspie weirdo's obsession with championing a failed reality tv star's philosophies instead of like, working, but reading between the lines here, I have my answer.
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