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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Smith should've taken five damn seconds to think if both were thinking at the flop and the guy who has position basically has an identical stack and shoves you might wanna not fucking instacall when you have bottom set. Yes odds are against it but wasn't like the guy who shoved had no stack he was third to your second stack out of 8. Chances are he wasn't fucking posturing. I know it's all 20/20 hind site but fuck when it's bubble time and you know a stupid call the difference is zero point zero vs 300k profit. Just wow. I wonder if all the shit with Hellmuth short circuited his brain.
    There was no way he was getting away from that. It was inevitable.
    Maybe Maybe not.. Ill give you this for food for thought to consider on why I think Dan made a bad play

    1. Theres 8 left 7 are getting paid.. Likely that top 3-4 stacks aren't going to go apeshit and get out of line because a poorly timed bluff means ZERO cash
    2. Dan was #2 stacksize to Bryn Kenny, #3 was Kempe.
    3. Both flop sets.. Dan had bottom Kempe had middle.. Both of them took their time considering how to act on the flop (yes I know I stated this before) The fact that Kempe took time to make his decision on the flop should've been a clue to Dan that Kempe had at least reasonable holdings on the flop, and the likelihood a bluff would be forthcoming was pretty much nil.
    4. When Kempe moved in on Dan, he should've been worried because a crazy move from one of the guys with 1M or so maybe understandable as being a LAG attempt to steal blinds, or even take one last shot due to stack dwindling but the guy who has a stack almost equal and oh btw has no real reason to make a move because likely hes going to cash and would better served to play conservative given the number of hours they had put it. A move by Hellmuth I don't question Dan calling because even if he is crucified he still has a useable stack calling what is in my eyes a 50/50 proposition for your tournament life essentially while sitting in 2nd place was bad bad poker.. When I say 50/50 I mean this. When Kempe moves in either he has a set over you, meaning your crushed or at minimum 2 pair with potential draws meaning your flipping at best. (flipping is never adviseable on the bubble when your near the top of the leaderboard and losing the flip to an equal stack pretty much fucks you completely) Dan never considered that Kempe would NEVER risk his tournament life on the bubble with a healthy stack (3/8) unless he had something of significant value. He instacalled without hesitation..

    I just wanted to explain my earlier posting a bit better so they understand my logic and reasoning behind what I feel was a bad move for Dan (honestly if it had happened after the bubble I might not question it so much but when your on the money bubble and the difference is squadush vs a guarantee 300k profit (and in 2nd place solidly he had to be considered a potential winner of it all or at least likely to cash higher then even the min of 600k)

    Done channeling my inner Tony Dunst.. One thing that Ive noticed and could be a bad omen for Kempe is this.

    Leaders at end of Days haven't faired well
    As I recall Day 1 leader got booted in Day 2
    Day 2 leader is one of the shorter stacks ending today (and Dan Smith who had the lead for awhile on Day 3 didn't even make Day 4 as the bubble burst)

    My guess is Bryn Kenny will find a way to win it tomorrow with Kempe either 2nd or 3rd depending on how Fedor Holz holds up.

    Gonna throw out an exacta for the hell of it and see how it goes
    1. Kenny
    2. Holtz
    3. Kempe
    4. Siedel
    5. Hellmuth
    6. Berkey
    7. Shak

    -Hellmuth could very well be #7 but I give him slight edge not to because he does have 14 WSOP bracelets and has played under the big pressure lights before
    -Berkey Did nothing but move backwards on Day 3 and went from chip leader to 5th stack. I think his bowtie might be cutting off blood supply to his brain
    -Dan Shak is the last of the true semi-pros left he doesn't play full time and while he's a decent player I just don't think he does better then 6th
    -Siedel has a HX in high roller events. Despite being the old man at the table the guy has the cerebral aptitude to finish mid pack and a another nice cash
    -Kempe has the big stack but I think he's going to overplay and fall into the same trap Berkey did today on Day 3. Hes only in the lead because he basically doubled his stack from Dan Smith trying to hero call insta-shove but I think he can play tight enough to hold out for 3rd but wouldn't surprise me for him to finish behind Siedel and they swap spots
    - I think it comes down HU between Holtz and Kenny both are on fire over all. Holtz I wouldn't be surprised to see at the Nov 9 (he finished 25th in his first ME last year and has clocked in nearly 8 figures in cashes in his 4 yrs of playing mostly in EUR)

     
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    ha ha ha ha ha ha. Look how long that post is that literally no one will read.


    omfg


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit View Post
    ha ha ha ha ha ha. Look how long that post is that literally no one will read.


    omfg


    *pees self*
    You really should get that fixed BGC.. While it is common among women to have incontinence issues according to those stupid poise commercials I'm sure they can stitch some shit or something for ya.. Wet spots from pee just are embarrassing aren't they??

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    yur mom says they are cute

    then she blows me

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    Set over set on the bubble for $600k.

    Nobody folding there for ICM purposes. Kempe and Smith both have quality stacks at this point but it's not like 8th place at that time (Hellmuth) had only a few big blinds.

    It's just a sick cooler. You can sit here and consider how much money this bubble cost Smith but it's set over set. Both of these guys are playing on high levels and capable of making moves on one another in this spot feeling the other guy will fold hands like two pair, top pair with the straight draw,etc... It's just a crazy hand with two premium holdings both trying to protect and also not lose action at times when a crazy turn card comes making the hand go down differently.

    We shouldn't over think this because it's a bubble for $600k. A few of these guys are staked, sell off a ton of action, trade action, or just have the money where putting up $300k isn't going to break them.

    They also see the equity gained bolting them to a very comfortable first place stack in a tournament where $5 million is at the top that they aren't going to fold sets which are normally strong hands. The board texture is extremely wet but still they have a fucking set.

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    I actually read FTPs post its long as fuck but there is some logic to it I think. Then again the fuckers playing for that kinda of money we will never see outside of maybe C$, Druff and Drexel who all have well healed 7 figure checking accounts I could careless about mostly. Seems to be 4 young cocky fucks against 3 old school guys tomorrow.. Kinda torn maybe the old guys could school the pompous little fucks for once just to prove that being some young savant who 24 tables online doesn't mean shit at a one table tournament with 5M on the line.

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    It's a simple answer to if he should have folded or not..he wants to win he calls, he wants to cash he folds. That simple. These guys all want to win, none of them were folding.

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    Top 3 Bad posters who are probably good guys IRL:
    1. Ftp jesus
    2. Beernpoker
    3. DirkStarr

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
    It's a simple answer to if he should have folded or not..he wants to win he calls, he wants to cash he folds. That simple. These guys all want to win, none of them were folding.
    Exactly this

    Anyone who thinks it's a bad play automatically exposes how terrible they are at poker and probably says a lot about how they live their life.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
    Top 3 Bad posters who are probably good guys IRL:
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    2. Beernpoker
    3. DirkStarr
    Cops & Poker. 2 things that aren't a good look these days.

    FTP is kind of a cop and likes poker so he is playing life shortstacked. Otherwise, I have always been a little puzzled by the hate. I don't read poker mostly. I do like his gamble. He trades Forex and such.

    BnP does seem like an excessively well adjusted guy IRL. I have never detected any edginess about him on radio or in his posts. Nothing gets to him. Hate gives life color and personality. So yeah, he has a hole in his game but I always read his stuff.

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    One thing that hasn't been mentioned (unless I missed it) about the hand, was they were playing 4/5 handed at the time (can't remember which table was which). You give pretty much anyone a set in that scenario and there is no chance in hell they think they are going to get coolered set over set. It is already rare enough 8/9/10 deep at the table but 4/5?? Come on that was just a ridiculously bad situation, not to mention the fact that the other guy just happened to have pretty much his entire stack covered.

    4/5 handed you deal me a set and I am trying to trap, take every damn chip knowing there it would be a miracle if I was beat, and I might start drooling if I see a re pop of 500k trying to keep my composure.

    Anyway can't wait for tonight. Hope Hellmuth can stick around and make poker great again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
    Top 3 Bad posters who are probably good guys IRL:
    1. Ftp jesus
    2. Beernpoker
    3. DirkStarr
    Cops & Poker. 2 things that aren't a good look these days.

    FTP is kind of a cop and likes poker so he is playing life shortstacked. Otherwise, I have always been a little puzzled by the hate. I don't read poker mostly. I do like his gamble. He trades Forex and such.

    BnP does seem like an excessively well adjusted guy IRL. I have never detected any edginess about him on radio or in his posts. Nothing gets to him. Hate gives life color and personality. So yeah, he has a hole in his game but I always read his stuff.
    Its a little late to ninja edit now but i regret adding BnP to this list. Agreed with you on all points and he does add some good content even though ive given him some shit in the past. Drk is unreadable half the time but I'd loan him money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Cops & Poker. 2 things that aren't a good look these days.

    FTP is kind of a cop and likes poker so he is playing life shortstacked. Otherwise, I have always been a little puzzled by the hate. I don't read poker mostly. I do like his gamble. He trades Forex and such.

    BnP does seem like an excessively well adjusted guy IRL. I have never detected any edginess about him on radio or in his posts. Nothing gets to him. Hate gives life color and personality. So yeah, he has a hole in his game but I always read his stuff.
    In life you can't be everyone's full cup of tea but that holds true even more so on a forum. Some can only handle a person at half a cup, a few sips, or not even a drop.

    When that whole thing last year with Vanessa Rousso being on Big Brother was happening I pictured how entertaining it would be if their was a way to have a PFA version of this type of show.

    You put 15 to 20 of the most polarizing people in the history of this forum together (doubt I'd even qualify for that) and see how they cope living in lock down mode for a month. I can't watch that normal show cause it's too painful but this is something I'd love to see what happens, at least at the beginning of it anyway.

    For starters we go with Druff, Drexel, Tyde, sonatine, garrett, badguy, josey, Pooh, BCR, and BGC. Finding around 5 to 10 more people who a majority would like to see shouldn't be difficult but most, if not all of these I listed are automatics.

     
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    I find it highly amusing that guys like Dan Smith, Ike Haxton, Olivier Busquet and all the other poker douche bags are hating on Phil on Twitter right now. These guys just don't get it. I would love to see Phil ship this thing just to drive them nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    I find it highly amusing that guys like Dan Smith, Ike Haxton, Olivier Busquet and all the other poker douche bags are hating on Phil on Twitter right now. These guys just don't get it. I would love to see Phil ship this thing just to drive them nuts.
    Man I had no ideas now I gotta go see what they are saying lol.

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    Just an FYI (if anyone cares) today Netflix added a 1.5 hour documentary called "KidPoker". I'm checking it out as I type this and surprisingly I haven't shut the thing off yet after 15 minutes of watching. So far it's going on about his early life,etc...

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    Final table starting in 5 min on twitch goes from 6-7pm, then switches over to CBS Sports from 7pm til the end.

    Edit - Live only starts at 7 on TV. They are playing some dumbass "road to the final table" on twitch.
    Last edited by NaturalBornHustler; 06-01-2016 at 03:13 PM.

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    anyone have a link for this today?

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