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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    This sums up Trump speech quite nicely!


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    Would've been funnier if Trump had replied an overrated poker website run by a nit wannabe named Mason Mallmuth, who's never won a damn thing in poker yet claims to be Gods gift to same. Now THAT would've been funny

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    If this happens again, what the fuck is going to go down? Probably some crazy shit, because I imagine there will be more radical Trump supporters that make sure and show up next time just in case.

    A protest is a protest and I am level headed person, but even I have to admit that seeing people fly foreign flags like the various assholes with Mexican, even a couple Cuban flags, while disrupting our political process is a bit enraging. These same fucks don't seem to understand that they and their legal or illegal immigrant counterparts are just pawns in a long term game to dilute the American workforce, bust unions etc., so corporations can exponentially increase their profits and productivity by having a passive low paid worker drone, less intelligent workforce. It's the only reason illegal and legal immigration on the scale we are seeing in the first world is tolerated from a political standpoint. Very few people also seem to understand that the whole "diversity", multiculturalism utopia thing that is being hammered in full force, particularly at children, particularly at white children and other children of middle class and upper class upbringings, is to tolerate this shit in the next generations because they would be the only ones from an economic and political standpoint to do anything about it. Our country really is fucked, fucked well and proper.

     
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      Lord of the Fraud: good post. our workforce has been watered down too. i just wish the people understood how hard we're all getting played
      
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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
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    The Trump rally in Chicago was hit with professional protesters from MoveOn.org and Black Lives Matter.
    They were inciting violence not Trump or his supporters.

    MoveOn.org has promised to disrupt every Trump rally from now on.

    This is not a peaceful protest.
    They are infringing on Donald Trump's right of free speech.
    What happens when Communists meet Facists

    #NewAmerica

    #HopeAndChange

    #MakeAmericaGreatAgain
    Bad news is Moveon and the liberal pukes don't believe in the second amendment while most Trump supporters do. Guess how that ends. 😏

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    With each passing day I become more convinced that Trump is a fully transparent con-man. Also his supporters, like Pooh for example, are the biggest dipshit puppets of all time. The guy is a flatout psychopath, and his skillful demagoguery is a very scary thing, especially as a Trump presidency becomes more of a reality.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    With each passing day I become more convinced that Trump is a fully transparent con-man. Also his supporters, like Pooh for example, are the biggest dipshit puppets of all time. The guy is a flatout psychopath, and his skillful demagoguery is a very scary thing, especially as a Trump presidency becomes more of a reality.
    This guy has been running a 28+ year long con.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    With each passing day I become more convinced that Trump is a fully transparent con-man. Also his supporters, like Pooh for example, are the biggest dipshit puppets of all time. The guy is a flatout psychopath, and his skillful demagoguery is a very scary thing, especially as a Trump presidency becomes more of a reality.
    FYI Pooh doesn't support Trump

    Read the thread

    Otherwise spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryback_feed_me_more View Post
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    What happens when Communists meet Facists

    #NewAmerica

    #HopeAndChange

    #MakeAmericaGreatAgain
    Bad news is Moveon and the liberal pukes don't believe in the second amendment while most Trump supporters do. Guess how that ends. 
    Oh man can you imagine the shit storm?

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    If I was a conspiracy theorist ....

    If I was a second term President who didn't give up power what would I do?

    1. Find a well known person to run for President in the opposite party.

    2. Have them appeal to poorly educated whites who have a bunch of hate and fear.

    3. Stir the poor whites into a frenzy by using Immigration and Middle East as racial divides

    4. Unleash Liberal groups to protest

    5. Wait for the fireworks, wait until a white guy unloads a couple clips

    6. Step in and enforce Marshall Law and suspend the elections

    7. Name yourself permanent leader

    8. Profit!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryback_feed_me_more View Post
    Bad news is Moveon and the liberal pukes don't believe in the second amendment while most Trump supporters do. Guess how that ends. 
    Trump supporters go home with their tales between their legs? When it isn't a 100 against 1 they back down. And then dumb shits like ryback talk about grabbing a gun. But Trump supporters are the good people.

    Speaking to reporters before a speech here this evening, Bernie Sander's called it a “disgrace” that Republican presidential hopeful Trump had let ‘Black Lives Matter’ protesters interrupt a rally he held this weekend. “I would never give up my microphone. I thought that was disgusting,” Sanders said. “That showed such weakness.”

    “You know what, he’s getting the biggest crowds and I’m getting the biggest crowds. We’re the two getting the crowds,” Sander's said. “But believe me that’s not gonna happen to Sanders.”

    Here is a second incident in NC where Trumps supporter attack a black guy for being at a Trump rally.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2560618

    ‘Ludicrous’ and ‘Ridiculous’: See Footage of People in 1999 Reacting to a Trump Presidency
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/ludic...mp-presidency/
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    If this happens again, what the fuck is going to go down? Probably some crazy shit, because I imagine there will be more radical Trump supporters that make sure and show up next time just in case.

    A protest is a protest and I am level headed person, but even I have to admit that seeing people fly foreign flags like the various assholes with Mexican, even a couple Cuban flags, while disrupting our political process is a bit enraging. These same fucks don't seem to understand that they and their legal or illegal immigrant counterparts are just pawns in a long term game to dilute the American workforce, bust unions etc., so corporations can exponentially increase their profits and productivity by having a passive low paid worker drone, less intelligent workforce. It's the only reason illegal and legal immigration on the scale we are seeing in the first world is tolerated from a political standpoint. Very few people also seem to understand that the whole "diversity", multiculturalism utopia thing that is being hammered in full force, particularly at children, particularly at white children and other children of middle class and upper class upbringings, is to tolerate this shit in the next generations because they would be the only ones from an economic and political standpoint to do anything about it. Our country really is fucked, fucked well and proper.

    Damn you're woke.
    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83
    I'm going to come across as a bit of a douche but I really know more about this then anyone on this board by miles.

    ...if Trump is nominee he wins Presidency easily. Angry Blue Collar Whites will have record turnout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    so corporations can exponentially increase their profits and productivity by having a passive low paid worker drone, less intelligent workforce.

    This sounds all well and good while you're frothing at the mouth, but corporations could tomorrow morning have a lower-wage less intelligent workforce by just dropping their wages and hiring less skilled workers.
    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83
    I'm going to come across as a bit of a douche but I really know more about this then anyone on this board by miles.

    ...if Trump is nominee he wins Presidency easily. Angry Blue Collar Whites will have record turnout.

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    Looks like Trump picked up another PFA vote tonight. Cant wait for SUPER SWEEP TUESDAY, he will surge 5 points from this organized trash tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
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    Bad news is Moveon and the liberal pukes don't believe in the second amendment while most Trump supporters do. Guess how that ends. 
    Oh man can you imagine the shit storm?
    Do you two have a reading problem? Because what portion of "WELL-REGULATED militia" don't you meatheads understand? Because the fucking NRA *used* to promote gun control in that spirit. But when the NRA was taken over by the gun *merchants*, the concerns of ordinary gun owners went out the fucking window. And all those bastards at the NRA now care about is scaring up as many gun sales as possible, public safety be damned.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrigan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    so corporations can exponentially increase their profits and productivity by having a passive low paid worker drone, less intelligent workforce.

    This sounds all well and good while you're frothing at the mouth, but corporations could tomorrow morning have a lower-wage less intelligent workforce by just dropping their wages and hiring less skilled workers.
    I don't think you understand how the true benefits of outsourcing to low-wage foreign countries are realized. It's not that those foreign workers are dramatically lower skilled. It's that the labor laws in those countries are shit. For example, the unions in Mexico are a fucking joke, as voting on matters by union members is not secret. All of the bosses know which workers are for better conditions, and those folks lose their jobs or get shitty shifts.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Reagan was a luckbox president who stumbled upon the soviet union at its breaking point and a favorable time in the business cycle.

    Mind you, Clinton was also the beneficiary of fortuitous timing as it pertains to the business cycle.


    REAGAN WAS TRULY A GREAT "LEADER" ():


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrigan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    so corporations can exponentially increase their profits and productivity by having a passive low paid worker drone, less intelligent workforce.

    This sounds all well and good while you're frothing at the mouth, but corporations could tomorrow morning have a lower-wage less intelligent workforce by just dropping their wages and hiring less skilled workers.
    Lawsuits Claim Disney Colluded to Replace U.S. Workers With Immigrants


    Even after Leo Perrero was laid off a year ago from his technology job at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. — and spent his final months there training a temporary immigrant from India to do his work — he still hoped to find a new position in the vast entertainment company.
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    But Mr. Perrero discovered that despite his high performance ratings, he and most of the other 250 tech workers Disney dismissed would not be rehired for at least a year, and probably never.
    Now he and Dena Moore, another American laid off by Disney at that time, have filed lawsuits in federal court in Tampa, Fla., against Disney and two global consulting companies, HCL and Cognizant, which brought in foreign workers who replaced them. They claim the companies colluded to break the law by using temporary H-1B visas to bring in immigrant workers, knowing that Americans would be displaced.
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    “I don’t have to be angry or cause drama,” said Ms. Moore, 53, who had worked at Disney for 10 years. “But they are just doing things to save a buck, and it’s making Americans poor.”
    Ms. Moore had also trained her replacement. After she was laid off, she applied for more than 150 other jobs at Disney. She did not get one.
    The lawsuits by Mr. Perrero and Ms. Moore, who each filed a separate but similar complaint on Monday seeking class-action status, represent the first time Americans have gone to federal court to sue both outsourcing companies that imported immigrants and the American company that contracted with those businesses, claiming that they collaborated intentionally to supplant Americans with H-1B workers.
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    Dena Moore, another American tech employee who was laid off after years at Disney, said she applied for more than 150 Disney jobs and did not get one. Credit Brian Blanco for The New York Times A furor over the layoffs in Orlando last January brought to light many other episodes in which American workers, mainly in technology but also in accounting and administration, said they had lost jobs to foreigners on H-1B visas, and had to train replacements as a condition of their severance. The foreign workers, mostly from India, were provided by outsourcing companies, including the two named in the lawsuits, which have dominated the H-1B visa system, packing the application process to win an outsize share of the quota set by Congress of 85,000 visas each year.
    The Labor Department opened investigations of the outsourcing companies — the direct employers of the temporary immigrants — at Disney and at Southern California Edison, a utility that laid off hundreds of American workers in 2014. The investigations are continuing. At least 30 former Disney workers also filed complaints with the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, claiming that they faced discrimination as American citizens.
    The lawsuits by Mr. Perrero and Ms. Moore are based on the rules for H-1B visas, which Congress designed to bring foreign workers with special skills into the country. Employers are required to declare to the Department of Labor that hiring foreigners on the visas “will not adversely affect the working conditions of U.S. workers similarly employed.”
    “Was I negatively affected?” Ms. Moore asked. “Yeah, I was. I lost my job.”
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    Sara Blackwell, a lawyer in Sarasota, Fla., representing the former Disney employees, said the suits charged that the companies had lied under oath when they said no Americans would lose their jobs.
    Disney, in a statement on Monday, said, “These lawsuits are based on an unsustainable legal theory and are a wholesale misrepresentation of the facts.” The company said more than 100 of the workers who were laid off in Orlando had been rehired.
    HCL has said it complies carefully with United States laws. Cognizant, in a statement on Monday, said that it would not comment on the lawsuit, but that it “fully complies with all U.S. regulations regarding H-1B visas.”
    The company said an internal compliance team “ensures our practices are not merely compliant with existing laws in letter and spirit, but also adhere to best practices.” Cognizant said it employed “many thousands of U.S. citizens and residents in addition to employees on lawful H-1B visas.”
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    Document: Leo Perrero’s Complaint Against Disney

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    Responding to the frustration of American workers, Congress in December renewed and increased a fee on outsourcing companies that it had allowed to lapse. Larger companies employing many H-1B workers in the United States will pay an extra fee of $4,000 for each new H-1B visa — up from $2,000 — and another $4,000 to move an H-1B immigrant who is already in the country to a new employer.
    Senator Bill Nelson of Florida, a Democrat who has been openly critical of Disney’s layoffs, offered a bill to reduce the H-1B quota by 15,000 visas a year to 70,000. The issue came up in the presidential race, as Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican candidate, introduced a bill with Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a Republican hard-liner on immigration, to sharply increase the minimum wage for H-1B workers to $110,000 a year, to discourage outsourcing companies from using the workers to lower wages.
    The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, an international association of tech workers, posted an online petition to encourage Americans who were displaced to file complaints with the Justice Department. In a letter to the group in December, Alberto Ruisanchez, a Justice Department lawyer in charge of prosecuting immigration abuses, confirmed that it would be a violation of anti-discrimination laws for an employer, or a contracting firm, to fire workers or hire replacements “because of citizenship or immigration status.”
    Mr. Perrero, like many Americans who have lost their jobs, said he was long reluctant to speak out publicly against his former employer. At 42 and with a family to support, he worried that he would not find another job in Orlando, where Disney rules as the largest employer by far. He spoke with The New York Times anonymously in an article in June about the humiliation of training his foreign replacement.
    But local recruiters told him that despite the company’s statements, Disney managers said they would avoid rehiring workers who had been laid off. Mr. Perrero said he knew of only two workers from the close-knit group of more than 200 who were dismissed who went back to tech jobs at Disney.
    Mr. Perrero said he was “part Italian, part English, part Swedish.” He said, “I wholeheartedly believe our country needs to have amazing people come here to build a long-term foundation.” But he said the H-1B program had been abused.
    Ms. Moore said that even with strong programming credentials, it was hard for her to start over in her 50s with another company. She has 13 grandchildren, and she confessed that one of the difficult losses was a pass that allowed her to take them to Disney World at no cost.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    Reagan was a luckbox president who stumbled upon the soviet union at its breaking point and a favorable time in the business cycle.

    Mind you, Clinton was also the beneficiary of fortuitous timing as it pertains to the business cycle.
    You must have dozed off during history class. Reagan probably feels to you like Truman does to me.

    Things were pretty fucked up at the time. Whether the investor sentiment changed because of Reagan or he had a good team is up for debate maybe.

    I think it was you who posted some link with David Stockman. I still can't get over what a crackpot he became. Getting it in the ass in prison changes a man, I guess.

    Trump IS Reagan without an economic message. A charismatic guy. I guess the gamble is that he hires well and those guys parlay that gig into Wall Street shenanigans like Stockman. It's how the game is played on the Republican side.

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    For the record I never said I was supporting Trump. I made an observation that many of Trumps supporters are 2nd Amendment supporters who are pro gun.. Talk about twisting somebodys words majorly. Don't fucking twist my words into something I didn't say one way or the other. I simply made an observation that MoveOn and BLM are the type that support Obamas Anti-Gun/Strict Gun control policies, and Trumps feel mostly just the opposite nothing more nothing less. Honestly, I'm sick of both parties, and beginning to think they should just abolish the political parties on both sides and have people simply run on their issues and let the public decide who the hell they want and pick their poison.

    A pox on both parties as far as I'm concerned. The libs wanna take everybodys money, and give it to everybodyelse whos too fucking lazy to work for it and want to breed like fucking rabbits(I'm not against supporting those who are legitimately disabled however), not to mention tax companies all to hell for daring to make a profit. They wonder why the companies leave this country and take jobs with them. The GOP are mostly all fucking hypocrites who preach small government, yet want the right to tell people who the fuck they can marry, what the hell two adults can do in their own home (or one person at their computer for that matter). Both are all in bed with Big Pharma keeping drugs off the market that are proven effective in Europe, yet approve shit drugs which never should've been approved. The FDA has conned the public into believing GMOs are safe, when almost no other country has or will approve them for human consumption. Yet, we wonder why we have such large increases in diseases (between the GMOS and the Drug companies wanting to sell drugs for chronic conditions instead of curing we're being assfucked and dickchoked on both ends).

    So do you still think I'm a Trump supporter.. Honestly if its between him and Hillary I probably would vote for him, but what the hell does it matter either way nothing changes until the corrupt system in DC changes. Even if Trump were to try and be Obamalike and go apeshit with Exec Orders, I don't expect much to change until the lobbyists are removed the IRS tax code is replaced with something that doesn't reward and allow big corporate donors like GE to pay more in taxes then the avg person on the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
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    Oh man can you imagine the shit storm?
    Do you two have a reading problem? Because what portion of "WELL-REGULATED militia" don't you meatheads understand? Because the fucking NRA *used* to promote gun control in that spirit. But when the NRA was taken over by the gun *merchants*, the concerns of ordinary gun owners went out the fucking window. And all those bastards at the NRA now care about is scaring up as many gun sales as possible, public safety be damned.
    Kinda interesting idea.

    I don't follow all the gun debate. All I know is gun sales both now and prospects for the future have never been better.

    Look at SWHC Smith & Wesson and RGR Sturm Ruger. They have absolutely gone through the roof.

    I read something recently when trying to nuke out how the political betting sites aren't targetted by AG's. The answer is that nothing gets to the truth like those who put their money up. Polls not so much - as we have seen.

    Academics are following the political betting sites closely as valuable tools for study. This is credited for the free pass.

    Same is probably true of the stock price of gun manufacturers. You are just wasting energy worrying about this shit. Guns are going nowhere. The bettors reveal the truth best of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    Reagan was a luckbox president who stumbled upon the soviet union at its breaking point and a favorable time in the business cycle.

    Mind you, Clinton was also the beneficiary of fortuitous timing as it pertains to the business cycle.


    REAGAN WAS TRULY A GREAT "LEADER" ():

    More in truth Jimmy Carter basically got handed a mess coming out of Fords Presidency where the economy tanked and people vote with their wallets. Interest rates over 20% will kill any Presidency period. Honestly Teddy Kennedy would've been doing Carter a favor and the Dems had he gotten the Nomination, he might have had a chance despite Chappaquidick (sp?).

     
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