**Official UFC thread**

[sonatine]

That article is basically clickbait imo. He's absurdly talented and brutally cleared out a division (while ducking Edgar, admittedly). But his weight advantage was a big part of that and now that the IV ban is shutting down that element of his game, I think its a great time to bet against him. But gauging his legacy by a performance he put on with like 30+ pounds of meat on his fight frame is just thirsty.

That said, personally do not believe he will ever fight comfortably at 145 again, and he's in real trouble at 155. Between the power, speed, and aggression of RDA and the ground game on Barboza, Cerrone, Pettis etc, there arent a lot of exploitable fights for him to move into.

He hits hard. Once he is on his back he is fucked. Aldo never got the chance and Mendes, who had basically no camp, had his way with him on the ground. Only took Diaz a few seconds. Max Holloway is vastly improved since 2013.

He is ridiculously over hyped for his talent level.

Respectfully, what Diaz did to him on the ground while he was barely alive is not statistically relevant, despite the fact that we all know he has a shitty ground game and if Diaz simply pulled guard on a fresh Conor, he would have subbed him trivially.

What Im saying...: you have to frame his accomplishments in relation to what he was able to accomplish against his peers. Assessing his strength based on ephemerals might feel great but I dont think it promotes any sort of clinical analysis.

He ran a division and hadnt lost a fight since 2011.

Fighters who are not great do not do that. That's the opposite of not great.

Ronda Rousey, another walking talking piece of human garbage, is (was?) a great fighter and ran a division but got the gas face when she tried to hang with a real striker. Does not make her an un-great fighter, just a fighter with shitty standup and awful, awful coaches.

I sincerely hope Conor McGregor kills himself but I'm not going to let that stop me from saying the man was a world destroyer at 145, nor will I shy from stacking up on Edgar (if that actually happens) once the drunk mick cunts send their paychecks to slaughter at their local books.

[sonatine]

But Nate will tell you now that it wasn’t until high school that he really learned to fight. Even then it was more Nick’s doing than his. Nick was the motivated one, the focused one. Nate was just the kid who wanted to tag along with his big brother. At first, Nate admitted, he wasn’t terribly interested in jiu-jitsu. He also wasn’t very good. What kept him coming back was that, after practice, the older guys in the class would usually buy him and his brother a burrito from the food truck that pulled up near the gym each night.

"That was actually the main reason I wanted to go train," he said. "I didn’t have any money. At home we didn’t have s--t. I was starving all day. So if I went to train I’d get something to eat. Sometimes I’d be sitting at home and it was like, well, if I go train with Nick I’ll get something to eat afterwards. If I don’t I’ll just sit here and be hungry. ...I was going for burritos and dinner, and hey, I wanted dinner every day. Before I knew it I was a blue belt."

<3

[sonatine]

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

[lol wow]

lets simmer it down fat guy who enjoys fishing

[FPS_Russia]

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

[sonatine]

I have it on extremely good authority that FPS_Russia and DJ Craps are on steroids, this is breaking and definitely trending all over chat right now.

[BetCheckBet]

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

Agree with all except last point. Joanna been great at 115.

Also hate to sound sexiest but it's a crime for meisha tobe wearing that shitty white reebok outfit compared to her old ones...

[nightmarefish]

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

[sonatine]

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

Agree with all except last point. Joanna been great at 115.

Also hate to sound sexiest but it's a crime for meisha tobe wearing that shitty white reebok outfit compared to her old ones...

You know what, point taken, but she also doesnt fight often and her competition has been women who lost on TUF (and not even in the finals) for the most part. Her weight class isnt really popping off, is my point. And also, her next fight is on an Ultimate Fighter Finale, which kinda ties into what Im saying.

[FPS_Russia]

Class

Yea I'm sick of those Brazilians too.

Where's a safe place for a UFC fighter to juice without having to worry about USADA and having access to juice?

This is just a tiny nugget.

[BeerAndPoker]

Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

All depends on if Women's MMA grows or not since it's still in it's infancy. Dana White looks at it a lot differently then he once did (all thanks to Ronda) but he's also a businessman who won't be putting these fights in the co-main event or main if they aren't worthy of it.

Even if females can't get too far up on the PPV card anymore as long as UFC keeps drawing people into an arena for shit fight pass cards their will always be a place for amateur hour.

[Crowe Diddly]

Where's a safe place for a UFC fighter to juice without having to worry about USADA and having access to juice?

How is mexico a safe place when they test people around the world? So they can hit up crocop in Croatia, but they can't get Nate in Mexico?

Just because they are named USADA doesn't mean they are bound by US borders, because they ain't.

[sonatine]

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

theres no evidence, "steroids" is just some weird troll meme with him.

[DRK Star]

Just looking at his body, Diaz is the LAST person I would suspect of Juicing.







Vaping, maybe...

[The_Lurker]

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

All they need to do is cover the floor in pillows, and make them fight naked......Problem solved

[FPS_Russia]

Where's a safe place for a UFC fighter to juice without having to worry about USADA and having access to juice?

How is mexico a safe place when they test people around the world? So they can hit up crocop in Croatia, but they can't get Nate in Mexico?

Just because they are named USADA doesn't mean they are bound by US borders, because they ain't.

If i had a pic of Nate with a syringe in his ass you'd dismiss it as tetanus. Save it.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

local degen went to this fight and did a two teamer for both underdogs. Paid 20-1. Poker games will be good again for a week or so.

[Shizzmoney]

Nate Diaz is medically suspended until 4/20.

Irony, take a bow

[FPS_Russia]

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

It'd be a really long post. I'd have to make it a thread with the hope that Nate or Nick would hear about it. The only way i'd go through all the trouble is if the Diaz bros or any of their fan boys piss me off bad enough. Only then would I throw down the gauntlet on their ass. I can't believe how many people are skeptical of my claims. They're into triathlons, endurance bike racing etc. helllo
Is there any sport in the world that has as much doping as cycling, triathlons, and all the other endurance type sports? That's where you'll find the experts at beating USADA type drug testing.

Edit: Any of you homos that don't like my posts use the ignore feature. Last I checked this is the "flying Stupidity" section of the forum.

[BetCheckBet]

Looks like I may finally decide to attend a live ufc event. Rory vs Wonderboy coming here.