*** OFFICIAL *** 2015 MLB Thread

[gut]

I would guess the Dodgers win 75 games next year.

Not only are the Giants and Diamondbacks better they happen to draw the AL East in Interleague and their protected rival is the Angels.

They would need significant signings at this point to not be a sub-500 team.

Look again. The AL east is probably the worst AL division. Rays, Yanks, O's are all worse than 2015.

...and the Angels aren't anything special either. The Tigers and them, IMO, should just blow it up and rebuild. The owners don't want to though, so we're looking at the next two phillies 2010-2014 in the making. At least the Angels have Trout.....Detroits future looks quite dim, and Cabrera might hit untradeable status in a couple years.

[ToasterOven]

Look again. The AL east is probably the worst AL division. Rays, Yanks, O's are all worse than 2015.

...and the Angels aren't anything special either. The Tigers and them, IMO, should just blow it up and rebuild. The owners don't want to though, so we're looking at the next two phillies 2010-2014 in the making. At least the Angels have Trout.....Detroits future looks quite dim, and Cabrera might hit untradeable status in a couple years.

I wouldn't have been that upset if the Tigers went into a rebuild, but they are certainly capable of making a run. 86 wins gets you to the playoffs in the AL in 2015, so it's tough to go into a rebuild. I think any team with money and a decent chance is going to forgo rebuilding with two WC spots.

[abrown83]

Look again. The AL east is probably the worst AL division. Rays, Yanks, O's are all worse than 2015.

...and the Angels aren't anything special either. The Tigers and them, IMO, should just blow it up and rebuild. The owners don't want to though, so we're looking at the next two phillies 2010-2014 in the making. At least the Angels have Trout.....Detroits future looks quite dim, and Cabrera might hit untradeable status in a couple years.

Dodgers had the 4th easiest schedule in baseball last year.

That schedule will get significantly tougher.

Also the Yankees get pitching back and a fat guy playing for a contract.

Here let's make this simple.

What amount are you willing to wager the Dodgers win at least 90 games this year?

[simpdog]

...and the Angels aren't anything special either. The Tigers and them, IMO, should just blow it up and rebuild. The owners don't want to though, so we're looking at the next two phillies 2010-2014 in the making. At least the Angels have Trout.....Detroits future looks quite dim, and Cabrera might hit untradeable status in a couple years.

Dodgers had the 4th easiest schedule in baseball last year.

That schedule will get significantly tougher.

Also the Yankees get pitching back and a fat guy playing for a contract.

Here let's make this simple.

What amount are you willing to wager the Dodgers win at least 90 games this year?

Agree with you.

Win 90 games I'd bet it at +700 or better but nothing less.

[gut]

Name 4 AL teams that should be above the Dodgers right now. Lets remember that, despite the fact that a lot of the offseason is left, there is no one in the AL in full rebuild mode right now. Every AL team might fall in-between 70-90 wins this coming season, while the NL beats up on all the tearing down teams.

....or go ahead and keep acting smart cause you had the misfortune of being born in Kansas City and you have your one moment to sound smart for your homerism.

Royals
Blue Jays
Rangers
Astros

Those are easy. Then I'd easily debate Yankees, Angels, and dark horse Minnesota and Baltimore.

Before your rebuttable please remember LAD just lost Grienke to a division rival. Giants have only gotten better. Between AZ and SF, and losing Grienke it's not hard to see a .500 Dodgers team.

Royals and BJ have lost most of their trade deadline acquisitions. Go on....

[gut]

oh and also, as a Twins fan, I fucking love the Royals so far this offseason......hey lets let both of the trade deadline guys leave, and then we'll sign.....ugh....Joakim Soria again!!! Solid move. Twins win the division next year, unless the Sox get some decent 4-5 starters.

[jsearles22]

Royals
Blue Jays
Rangers
Astros

Those are easy. Then I'd easily debate Yankees, Angels, and dark horse Minnesota and Baltimore.

Before your rebuttable please remember LAD just lost Grienke to a division rival. Giants have only gotten better. Between AZ and SF, and losing Grienke it's not hard to see a .500 Dodgers team.

Royals and BJ have lost most of their trade deadline acquisitions. Go on....

You do realize the Royals were one of the best teams in baseball before the deadline right?

[gut]

Royals and BJ have lost most of their trade deadline acquisitions. Go on....

You do realize the Royals were one of the best teams in baseball before the deadline right?

You realize you are now trending down right?

[ToasterOven]

...and the Angels aren't anything special either. The Tigers and them, IMO, should just blow it up and rebuild. The owners don't want to though, so we're looking at the next two phillies 2010-2014 in the making. At least the Angels have Trout.....Detroits future looks quite dim, and Cabrera might hit untradeable status in a couple years.

Dodgers had the 4th easiest schedule in baseball last year.

That schedule will get significantly tougher.

Also the Yankees get pitching back and a fat guy playing for a contract.

Here let's make this simple.

What amount are you willing to wager the Dodgers win at least 90 games this year?

I don't understand what you are saying about the Yankees? They get pitching back? What does that mean? The Yankees are not good right now. Is the fat guy CC? You think he's going to be a factor? I just don't see a scenario where the Yankees are competitive.

[jsearles22]

You do realize the Royals were one of the best teams in baseball before the deadline right?

You realize you are now trending down right?

Of course that's an easy argument to make. We are the defending champs off back to back WS appearances. There's no where to go but down.

Fact is you have no idea about our roster construction. Tell me which core pieces are different and/or worse from the last two years? You know, the very successful last two years

[gut]

You realize you are now trending down right?

Of course that's an easy argument to make. We are the defending champs off back to back WS appearances. There's no where to go but down.

Fact is you have no idea about our roster construction. Tell me which core pieces are different and/or worse from the last two years? You know, the very successful last two years

don't have to say anything here....you proved my point already. GJ Kid

[jsearles22]

Of course that's an easy argument to make. We are the defending champs off back to back WS appearances. There's no where to go but down.

Fact is you have no idea about our roster construction. Tell me which core pieces are different and/or worse from the last two years? You know, the very successful last two years

don't have to say anything here....you proved my point already. GJ Kid

You might be full blown retard eh? You think I proved your point by acknowledging KC is unlikely mathematically to win back to back WS, because teams do that all the time right? Doesn't mean we aren't top 10 in baseball, unlike the Dodgers, which is really the foundation of this recent debate to begin with.

Please try to keep up

[gut]

don't have to say anything here....you proved my point already. GJ Kid

You might be full blown retard eh? You think I proved your point by acknowledging KC is unlikely mathematically to win back to back WS, because teams do that all the time right? Doesn't mean we aren't top 10 in baseball, unlike the Dodgers, which is really the foundation of this recent debate to begin with.

Please try to keep up

So ANYWAY, ignoring the retard here in the thread.....4 AL teams better than the dodgers right now? Fuck I might even include the Nats in that top 10, then only 3 AL teams needed. Right now, it's looking like last season x2....AL will be fun to watch.

Unless youre sizzle and gets sad when his team goes 78-84 and goes back to their rightful place.

[jsearles22]

You might be full blown retard eh? You think I proved your point by acknowledging KC is unlikely mathematically to win back to back WS, because teams do that all the time right? Doesn't mean we aren't top 10 in baseball, unlike the Dodgers, which is really the foundation of this recent debate to begin with.

Please try to keep up

So ANYWAY, ignoring the retard here in the thread.....4 AL teams better than the dodgers right now? Fuck I might even include the Nats in that top 10, then only 3 AL teams needed. Right now, it's looking like last season x2....AL will be fun to watch.

Unless youre sizzle and gets sad when his team goes 78-84 and goes back to their rightful place.

Wanna put your money where your mouth is?

[gut]

Obviously, no need to rank teams in December, but I'll wager the Dodgers finish with a top ten record in baseball. They are going to make some moves.

It's a long ass time away, so no need to bet $$$. You wanna bet a one month posting ban?

say what??????

[abrown83]

Dodgers had the 4th easiest schedule in baseball last year.

That schedule will get significantly tougher.

Also the Yankees get pitching back and a fat guy playing for a contract.

Here let's make this simple.

What amount are you willing to wager the Dodgers win at least 90 games this year?

I don't understand what you are saying about the Yankees? They get pitching back? What does that mean? The Yankees are not good right now. Is the fat guy CC? You think he's going to be a factor? I just don't see a scenario where the Yankees are competitive.

Hopefully they get Tanaka for a full season finally and CC is playing for the Yankees to pick up his giant contract the next couple years. Already reports that he has been working out significantly this off season.

Plus they picked up Castro who will hit better in the AL and maybe the Yankees can convince him to not be a dead pull hitter all the time now and go back to when he was more successful as a gap hitter.

[abrown83]

You might be full blown retard eh? You think I proved your point by acknowledging KC is unlikely mathematically to win back to back WS, because teams do that all the time right? Doesn't mean we aren't top 10 in baseball, unlike the Dodgers, which is really the foundation of this recent debate to begin with.

Please try to keep up

So ANYWAY, ignoring the retard here in the thread.....4 AL teams better than the dodgers right now? Fuck I might even include the Nats in that top 10, then only 3 AL teams needed. Right now, it's looking like last season x2....AL will be fun to watch.

Unless youre sizzle and gets sad when his team goes 78-84 and goes back to their rightful place.

The Dodgers lineup is very average and was protected 65 times by two of the best pitchers in baseball. Now you only get 32/33 starts of protection.

If you really believe the Dodgers are going to be good next year, you are in for a lonnnnng years.

[gut]

So ANYWAY, ignoring the retard here in the thread.....4 AL teams better than the dodgers right now? Fuck I might even include the Nats in that top 10, then only 3 AL teams needed. Right now, it's looking like last season x2....AL will be fun to watch.

Unless youre sizzle and gets sad when his team goes 78-84 and goes back to their rightful place.

The Dodgers lineup is very average and was protected 65 times by two of the best pitchers in baseball. Now you only get 32/33 starts of protection.

If you really believe the Dodgers are going to be good next year, you are in for a lonnnnng years.

Grienke will not put up those same numbers next year. Iwakuma will come close to the expected #2 rotation guy IMO.

Don't get me wrong here, I think they (Dodgers) are fighting for 2nd place in that division right now. Nonetheless, they will be also fighting for one of the wild card spots, and one of the top 10 records in baseball.

[gut]

Lets not forget a full season of Seager coming up.....a fucking stud.....and Young Joc's improvements and Urias at some point.........

[jsearles22]

The Dodgers lineup is very average and was protected 65 times by two of the best pitchers in baseball. Now you only get 32/33 starts of protection.

If you really believe the Dodgers are going to be good next year, you are in for a lonnnnng years.

Grienke will not put up those same numbers next year. Iwakuma will come close to the expected #2 rotation guy IMO.

Don't get me wrong here, I think they (Dodgers) are fighting for 2nd place in that division right now. Nonetheless, they will be also fighting for one of the wild card spots, and one of the top 10 records in baseball.

You keep making blasé blanket statements. Grienke won't replicate 19-3 with a 1.66 ERA? No fucking shit? And in the next sentence you imply Iwakuma is a solid #2 a la Grienke? Are you fucking kidding me?