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    Maher is like every liberal Jew I have ever met. They are liberal until their ideology conflicts with the interests of Isreal. Then, ironically, they become total fascists.

    The number one recruiting tool for Muslim terrorists is Isreali occupation of Palestine. I support Isreal's right to exist, but their are millions of Arabs in the occupied territories who essentially without a country. Until this 40 year problem is solved, terrorism will continue.

    The number two recruiting tool is the US invasion of Iraq. This is portrayed as a continuation of the Crusades. The message is that the U.S. will do anything to secure sources of oil.

     
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    Probably should have posted originally rather than go on in rep but Jayjami has it right---although in his case Maher is not at all religious. And this is nothing new from Maher, he has been critical of Islam (and other religions) for years. Like most people he has his own quirks and blindspots and so is "liberal" on some issues and not on others, to the extent you conflate liberalism with tolerance......whenever Druff starts pontificating about what the "far left" or "liberals" think or want just stop reading as he is overgeneralizing, at best, and often, as here, simply mischaracterizing things......as prior posters have already pointed out, when you parse his original post, about the only thing that withstands scrutiny is that Maher has just repeated his longstanding hatred of/contempt for Islam and those who would defend it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    However, he has started to come around recently. While Maher will never be a conservative, and while he will never abandon the viewpoints he holds dear, the recent string of terrorist attacks has started to open his eyes about fellow leftists.
    I didnt read the whole thread so it may have been mentioned already, but Maher isn't new to this bandwagon. He has revived alot of notoriety from going on Jimmys show and discussing this topic, but he has been saying similar things on his own show for the past few years.

    I'm not a big fan of Mahers, but I have to admit liking his show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Maher is like every liberal Jew I have ever met. They are liberal until their ideology conflicts with the interests of Isreal. Then, ironically, they become total fascists.

    The number one recruiting tool for Muslim terrorists is Isreali occupation of Palestine. I support Isreal's right to exist, but their are millions of Arabs in the occupied territories who essentially without a country. Until this 40 year problem is solved, terrorism will continue.

    The number two recruiting tool is the US invasion of Iraq. This is portrayed as a continuation of the Crusades. The message is that the U.S. will do anything to secure sources of oil.
    Judaism is a religion, not a race. Does everyone know that? Maher was raised Roman Catholic. So, not a Jew. Also, I don't think Bill Maher is a big supporter of Israel.

    I always thought that Maher's greatest crime was that he wasn't very funny.

    Also, to Druff's point about him abandoning "leftists". Maher's anti religion stance and atheism will always override any reliable liberal views. Why do Republicans cry about celebrity's political views being reported on until the second any random celeb says anything remotely Republicanish and then they jump up and say, "See, even Bill Maher is against liberals"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post

    I always thought that Maher's greatest crime was that he wasn't very funny.
    hellllllllsa this.


    ive never heard maher say anything that struck me as insightful. hes basically an ultra homogenized rush limbaugh for libertarians who wont admit they arent liberals.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post

    I always thought that Maher's greatest crime was that he wasn't very funny.
    hellllllllsa this.


    ive never heard maher say anything that struck me as insightful. hes basically an ultra homogenized rush limbaugh for libertarians who wont admit they arent liberals.
    Also, he has an awful delivery. The guy laughs in the middle of his set ups and punch lines, it's so distracting. Even in the staff written bits that might be funny, he blows the damn jokes 90% of the time. The only skill he has was finding a niche to survive in.

     
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    I have only watched Maher in small doses. I agree with the assessment that he's annoying, and I also don't enjoy liberal political shows for obvious reasons.

    I had always seen him as someone who bashes religion, but hadn't seen/heard of him attacking Islam specifically (and attacking left wing apologists) until a few months ago. If he did it before then, I missed it.

    Yes, he is a limousine liberal, but so are most rich liberals. Who remembers Barbara Streisand lecturing Californians during the electricity crisis of the early 2000s that they need to stop being selfish and cut down their usage, only to have a photo surface of her huge house with a ton of lights on while she wasn't home.

    There are countless examples like this.

    Wealthy liberals are often politically left due to rich man's guilt, thinking that if they support left-leaning causes and candidates, it makes up for the fact that they have a lot more than others. However, when such beliefs interfere with their lifestyle or touch them personally, they do a complete 180 and go against everything they had preached.

    As much as I loved Carroll O'Connor's performance on All in the Family, he was yet another hypocritical limousine liberal. Always very leftist (despite his Archie Bunker character being the opposite), but suddenly became a law-and-order, war-on-drugs fanatic when his son overdosed and died. You could say it was simply a case of father's grief, but many liberals are callous to the plight of crime victims (and too coddling of the criminals) until serious crime affects them personally.

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    BTW, there are 3 glaring examples of limousine liberals in poker.

    1) Annie Duke
    2) Prahlad Friedman
    3) Daniel Colman

    Colman didn't support and knowingly profit from a criminal enterprise like Duke and Friedman did, but this guy's actions are textbook limousine liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I have only watched Maher in small doses.
    More like you watched him once until you realized he was liberal & never watched him again. Then you saw something he said & it surprised you because that's not what you'd expect him to say so you started a thread & somehow concluded that he must have "come to realize" he was wrong before & this is his new outlook. You must have missed the thread where he was arguing with Ben Affleck about this very subject a few months ago which is understandable because that would mean you watched a Bill Maher video.

    We all get it, you never watch Bill Maher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Druff
    I agree with the assessment that he's annoying,
    Considering you were the first to express this sentiment, as a matter of fact you wrote it in the very first sentence of this thread, it's nice to know that you agree with yourself.

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    I had always seen him as someone who bashes religion
    but you thought he'd somehow be in the corner of not bashing Islam???? Really???? I guess that makes sense.
     
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    Why don't you just admit you've had him on permanent ignore for the last 20 years & this somehow got through your filters & move on to keep ignoring him?
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    Maher also invites on well known conservatives to his show and will let them take the time to argue "the other side". He does have good debate on his show IMHO. As I said I like his show, not the man.

    I always loved when Ron Paul was on his show, very interesting conversations.

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    SHOCK VIDEO: Palestinian Muslim Woman Stabs Unsuspecting Israeli Security Guard at Checkpoint

    Kristinn Taylor Nov 8th, 2015 9:37 am 478 Comments
    Israeli media outlets are reporting on another stabbing attack by a Palestinian against an Israeli. In this incident it was a Palestinian woman clad in black Muslim garb from head to toe who sauntered up to a security checkpoint in the Israeli town of Beitar Illit.
    Surveillance video shows the woman walking up the side of a road to the checkpoint. A male security guard politely stops her. The woman presents her ID as the two converse.
    The guard is completely at ease and does not keep a safe distance from the woman. As the guard appears to be checking the woman’s ID via a portable device the woman casually puts her right hand in her purse as if looking for something.
    She suddenly pulls out a large knife and attempts to stab the security guard who raises his arms and steps back.
    The 1:14 video ends there as the guard and the attacker quickly move out of camera range as the guard retreats and the woman presses the attack. The guard was reported to have been lightly wounded before he was able to draw his gun and shoot the woman, critically wounding her.
    The Jewish Press quotes an official as saying the woman’s goal was to stab Israelis at a bus stop past the checkpoint.
    “Beitar Illit officials said: It appears that the terrorist was on her way to a bus stop [to attack Jews], and the guard prevented a worse attack.”

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    The prime minister of Israel believes that Palestinians convinced Hitler to start the Holocaust. He stated this publicly and in earnest. This is the sort of wacko we're dealing with on the "good" side.

    "Five Broken Cameras" is a fantastic documentary about the real lives of West Bank residents being terrorized and murdered by the hateful, morally bankrupt Israeli military police.

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    lol @ this being shocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    LOL....in contrast to the far right conservatives who have a monopoly on the truth. Druff you probably think FOX is an balanced news reporting agency with no agenda.
    I never once thought or said FOX is a balanced news station.

    The difference is that most conservatives know and acknowledge that FOX is biased, while liberals think that FOX is highly biased and MSNBC is just reporting the truth.

    I think some far right conservatives can be a bit cold to the needs/issues of the downtrodden, but liberals live in a complete dream world when it comes to human nature and the way the world really works. Their solution is always, "Let's just be more tolerant, and the problems will go away", or some form of that.
    This is a great post druff...

    MSNBC reports the news and fox is biased..lol. Conservatives at least admit fox is biased..

    If u notice the response there all passive aggressive. That progressive group think doesn't allow them any type of independent thought or analysis. Even when they agree they have to through in an attack on Christians or ect. They do that to try to dimish the progressive critique..

    Republicans criticize each other all the time but liberals find that very difficult. They cannot criticize each other.

    There whole ideology is based on mass insanity. Mass graves, euthonatia of the non believers, a cast system and subjectgating masses to serve the buerocratic elite..

    Democrats have never changed, they just have a better marketing campaign. Something out of one of those dystopeon future movies on cable.

    At the very least we have to thank trump for fighting back to the progressive thought control thugs. I think that will have a lasting effect.

    I actually occasionally watch his show and enjoyed the one he had on a.b.c. before it got cancelled.

    I also enjoyed tough crowd with Collin quin. Met him and enjoy the occasional e mail with him.

    He is one of the few liberals I can tolerate even before he showed such great honest thought/observation, s about MUSLIM, s..

    Good luck Europe, lol... Well, I guess in the liberals mind, anything that destroys anything judeo/Christian is good.. There insane brother..

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    Druff,

    Before you get all hissy about how Islamic societies treat women and gays, you might want to read up on what Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel promote. Here's a discussion of the former published by a secular press outlet in Israel:

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...4D10EADE41DB23

    Orthodox Judaism treats women like filthy little things

    If a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they'll save the man, 'who is obligated to perform more commandments,' whereas a woman's 'wisdom is only in the spindle.' In fact, 'words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women.'

    If you would like to know the source from which your brothers derive their brazen behavior, go over to the study hall and open a page of Talmud. It's true that the Torah has 70 faces, but the trend of these faces is clear: The source of the pollution is in halakha (Jewish law ) itself. What is happening in Beit Shemesh and its satellites is not "contrary to halakha," it is mandated by halakha. And the rest will be told to the grandmothers, daughters and granddaughters.

    Anyone ignoramus knows that the Torah's "ways are ways of pleasantness," that "the honor of a king's daughter is within," and that "proper behavior comes before the Torah," but it's worth knowing more. It's worth knowing that a woman is unfit to be a judge, and is also unfit to give testimony. She is unfit for any public position with authority. "Thou shalt appoint a king over thee" - a king and not a queen.

    A daughter, commanded the sages, must not be taught Torah, because "the mind of woman is not suited to be taught, but [only] to words of nonsense." Women are light-minded and have little knowledge.

    And if a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they'll save the man, "who is obligated to perform more commandments," whereas a woman's "wisdom is only in the spindle." In fact, "words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women."

    A man must say three blessings every day during morning prayers: He thanks God "that He didn't make me a gentile, that He didn't make me a woman, that He didn't make me an ignoramus." And it's not proper to speak to a woman too much, since "all her conversation is nothing but words of adultery," and whoever talks to her too much "causes evil to himself and will end up inheriting hell." And let's not even talk about the fate of someone "who looks even at a woman's little finger."

    The extremists who spit at women, who call themselves Sikarikim, learned their lesson 101 times and learned it well: A husband would do well not to let his wife go outside, into the street, and should restrict her outings "to once or twice a month, as necessary, since a woman has no beauty except by sitting in the corner of her house."

    Because inside the house - very deep inside - her glorious honor awaits her: "Every woman washes her husband's face and feet and pours him a cup and prepares his bed and stands and serves her husband. And any woman who refrains from doing any of these tasks that she is obligated to perform - is forced to do them." Some recommend forcing her with a whip or by starvation "until she gives in."

    And needless to say, she is at her husband's disposal whenever he is overcome by a desire "to satisfy his urges with her." And if she continues to rebel, he always has the right "to divorce her without her consent."

    And there are many similar halakhot, only a few of which we have collected here. Nor have we cited everything in the name of the ones who said them, for lack of space. The readers are invited to find the references on Shabbat - and to browse around - on their own; this is a good opportunity for study. We will direct your attention to Tractate Shabbat, which does a good job of summing up halakha's attitude toward women: "a sack full of excrement" with a bleeding hole.

    Some people will seek to console themselves: It's true that this is the halakha both m'doraita (from the Torah ) and m'drabanan (from the rabbis ), but that is not what is taught nowadays. But it suffices to listen to the sermon the sage Rabbi Ovadia Yosef delivered five years ago, based on the well-known halakhic work "Kitzur Shulchan Aruch": "A man must take care not to walk between two women or between two dogs or two pigs, and men should also not allow a woman or a dog or a pig to walk between them."

    Treating women as impure and filthy begins with halakha and continues with actions. As long as the religious and ultra-Orthodox parties - Shas, United Torah Judaism, Habayit Hayehudi and National Union, none of which have any women in the Knesset - are not disqualified, their nakedness will continue to sing out and the nakedness of the land will be revealed.
    Meaning, the issue isn't Islam versus Western social standards, but *conservative* religious adherents against secular social standards. But the conservative Christians in the U.S., who believe that the right-wing Israeli government can do *no* wrong, *and* want to turn back the clock on women's rights here in the U.S., don't want that matter getting attention as it is brings into sharp focus the hypocrisy of Islamophobes regarding a lack of support for women and gay rights among religiously conservative Christians and Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmProfessionalTalk View Post
    The prime minister of Israel believes that Palestinians convinced Hitler to start the Holocaust. He stated this publicly and in earnest. This is the sort of wacko we're dealing with on the "good" side.

    "Five Broken Cameras" is a fantastic documentary about the real lives of West Bank residents being terrorized and murdered by the hateful, morally bankrupt Israeli military police.
    Sadly, Jimmy Carter was correct. And the irony is that he is almost single-handedly responsible for Israel securing peace with Egypt by orchestrating the Camp David Accord. But I'm guessing that Druff forgot that when he mentioned not liking Jimmy Carter's policies as president.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    All I know is that France started the Crusades all those years ago. Maybe not piss off the french and keep to your sand dunes and everything will be ok. I mean for people who shun western culture, they sure don't have any problem moving in and getting pissed off by something they would be insulated against if they just never came around.

    Oh and fuck Bill Maher, complete waste of a chat show.
    If we gave Muslims the world and kept an island, they would attack the infedel island..

    Liberals are insane..

    4d is really good on this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
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    All I know is that France started the Crusades all those years ago. Maybe not piss off the french and keep to your sand dunes and everything will be ok. I mean for people who shun western culture, they sure don't have any problem moving in and getting pissed off by something they would be insulated against if they just never came around.

    Oh and fuck Bill Maher, complete waste of a chat show.
    If we gave Muslims the world and kept an island, they would attack the infedel island..

    Liberals are insane..

    4d is really good on this issue.

    I just talk about history, and history repeats itself in almost rhythmic cycles. That doesn't bode well for flippant peaceniks that think the pen is mightier than the sword. Their ideals are their undoing.

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