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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
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    We've seen these outside candidates from time to time, they always fizzle. Herman Cain actually had a bigger lead in 2011 around this point then he imploded. Newt Gingrich was the next outsider (out of office for 15 years) and he fizzled. Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot, etc... they always tank.

    It's going to be Jeb when all said and done, unless Trump does invest a billion dollars in the campaign. I doubt he will.

    The problem I have with Trump as time goes on, is he says the same shit over and over. He is terribly unprepared in the debates. It's got nothing to do with 'speaking from the heart' or not being political correct. It has every to do with he is intellectually lazy. Your whole platform can't be 'I'll figure it out when I am elected because I cut great deals'. You need much more than that.

    I think the next debate will be make or break for Trump. He likely will be around 25% in the polls, and he is either going to 30+ or single digits. If he comes out again rambling all over the place he will be toast. People forget Trump is 70 years old next year. If you listen to clips of him from even 5 years ago, he sounds much different than today. He may actually start having signs of early dementia.
    The only competent post in this thread thus far, but classifying Newt Gingrich as an outsider?

    He was out of office 15 years, that was the point. Look, I have an advanced degree, I know what I am talking about.

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    bukowski72: This is bullshit. 26 cops murdered this year vs 126 last year. 2nd lowest in 25 years. Stop getting your fake BLM/cop killing news from Fox and don't forget the 2 cops murdered in LV by the tea party freaks.

    And who was president last year dumbass?

    Run along. Rachael Madcow is calling you. Lib fuck.

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    Only way you're making America great again is if it comes under British Rule (again)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
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    There was actually an insurection goong on and he asked if he could stay leader untill after this marxist pope..

    The Pope isn't a Marxist. He's an old school Pope. Like 1200 years before Marx was born type Pope.
    The old school popes were some of the most vile and corrupt figures in history. I give the new guy credit for sincerely trying to rebuild a bad franchise.

    Too many and too much too choose from but this was pretty succinct.

    Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    The Pope isn't a Marxist. He's an old school Pope. Like 1200 years before Marx was born type Pope.
    The old school popes were some of the most vile and corrupt figures in history. I give the new guy credit for sincerely trying to rebuild a bad franchise.

    Too many and too much too choose from but this was pretty succinct.

    Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

    He is the first Jesuit Pope. He is the walking embodiment of a Dan Brown novel.

    I'll just leave this here:
    Political intrigue

    The Jesuits were temporarily banished from France in 1594 after a man named Jean Châtel tried to assassinate the king of France, Henri IV. Under questioning, Châtel revealed that he had been educated by the Jesuits of the Collège de Clermont. The Jesuits were accused of inspiring Châtel's attack. Two of his former teachers were exiled and a third was hanged.[53] The Collège de Clermont was closed, and the building was confiscated. The Jesuit Order was banned from France, although this ban was quickly lifted.


    In England, Henry Garnet, one of the leading English Jesuits, was hanged for misprision of treason because of his knowledge of the Gunpowder Plot (1605). The Plot was the attempted assassination of King James I of England and VI of Scotland, his family, and most of the Protestant aristocracy in a single attack, by exploding the Houses of Parliament. Another Jesuit, Oswald Tesimond, managed to escape arrest for his involvement in the Gunpowder Plot.[54]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post

    Fucking cop killing by the dozens. Shit has never happened before.

    You said shit has never happened before. It is not happening now or in 2014. Or on Obama's watch.



    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    bukowski72: This is bullshit. 26 cops murdered this year vs 126 last year. 2nd lowest in 25 years. Stop getting your fake BLM/cop killing news from Fox and don't forget the 2 cops murdered in LV by the tea party freaks.

    And who was president last year dumbass?

    Run along. Rachael Madcow is calling you. Lib fuck.
    Who was President LAST YEAR? 2014. President Obama. 117 cops were killed (I put the wrong number) which is 4th lowest amount since 2000.

    Okay I will take that one. How about 2013? 107. The lowest since 1949.

    2012 126. 4th lowest since 2000.


    What you are saying is happening is not happening Pooh. Numbers are hard. A lot less police officers have been murdered under your tough on crime conservatives.


    1st Term police officer murders:
    Reagan 774
    Bushy Jr* 646
    Bush Jr 655
    Obama 583

    * I left out the officers killed on 911


    Officers murdered 2 terms:

    Reagan 1547
    Bush Jr 1314
    Obama (Estimate) 990

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-...data/year.html[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by bukowski72 View Post
    You said shit has never happened before. It is not happening now or in 2014. Or on Obama's watch.



    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    bukowski72: This is bullshit. 26 cops murdered this year vs 126 last year. 2nd lowest in 25 years. Stop getting your fake BLM/cop killing news from Fox and don't forget the 2 cops murdered in LV by the tea party freaks.

    And who was president last year dumbass?

    Run along. Rachael Madcow is calling you. Lib fuck.
    Who was President LAST YEAR? 2014. President Obama. 117 cops were killed (I put the wrong number) which is 4th lowest amount since 2000.

    Okay I will take that one. How about 2013? 107. The lowest since 1949.

    2012 126. 4th lowest since 2000.


    What you are saying is happening is not happening Pooh. Numbers are hard. A lot less police officers have been murdered under your tough on crime conservatives.


    1st Term police officer murders:
    Reagan 774
    Bushy Jr* 646
    Bush Jr 655
    Obama 583

    * I left out the officers killed on 911


    Officers murdered 2 terms:

    Reagan 1547
    Bush Jr 1314
    Obama (Estimate) 990

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-...data/year.html
    Not a fair comparison, because violent crime has gone down steadily over the past 25 years.

    Regardless of the actual number, I do find it irritating how Obama makes a big deal when a black guy is killed by cops under questionable circumstances, yet he says nothing when cops are specifically targeted and killed, including as some sort of race-related retribution.

    I'd like to see a list of targeted cop deaths in recent years versus the past. There's a big difference between a cop being killed because he's chasing a criminal and one being targeted because he's in uniform.

     
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    Reagan took a bullet for the home team.

    Just sayin. Hate to cut short. Got someone at the front door.

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    maybe you guys need to realize that NO PRESIDENTS are coming up with their own strategies.

    Whomever gets elected is going to surround themselves with very bright people who will come up with the plans. The president is a figurehead and a puppet.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Not a fair comparison, because violent crime has gone down steadily over the past 25 years.

    Regardless of the actual number, I do find it irritating how Obama makes a big deal when a black guy is killed by cops under questionable circumstances, yet he says nothing when cops are specifically targeted and killed, including as some sort of race-related retribution.

    I'd like to see a list of targeted cop deaths in recent years versus the past. There's a big difference between a cop being killed because he's chasing a criminal and one being targeted because he's in uniform.
    "HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED?

    During the last 12 months, six officers appear to have been targeted specifically because they worked in law enforcement, according to the memorial fund. That includes the Texas deputy, as well as two New York City officers who were shot and killed in December as they sat in their patrol car."

    One was killed by a mental patient. Two were killed by the tea party gun freaks who draped a Gadsden Flag over the dead officer. 4 of the six were murdered by black men. I guess that will give Pooh the chance to say the n-word again.


    Druff, I can't really say how many were targeted in the past because conservatives didn't care until they thought they had a chance to blame black people and Obama.


    Fox and other conservative outlets have been drumming up this BLM police murders are going through the roof crap for months. When the double police muder happened in Las Vegas how did Fox cover it? Megyn Kelly has been making this a regular part of her show. I watch The Five regularly and they barely mentioned it.

    "Primetime hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity both ignored the shocking cop-killer story last night, while Megyn Kelly devoted four sentences to it. (By contrast, the story covered extensively during CNN and MSNBC's primetime.) Fox talkers on Monday were still far more interested in debating the prisoner swap of Bowe Bergdahl than they were examining the political ambush in Las Vegas."


    http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articl...-across-the-us

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06...killers/199651

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bukowski72 View Post
    You said shit has never happened before. It is not happening now or in 2014. Or on Obama's watch.





    Who was President LAST YEAR? 2014. President Obama. 117 cops were killed (I put the wrong number) which is 4th lowest amount since 2000.

    Okay I will take that one. How about 2013? 107. The lowest since 1949.

    2012 126. 4th lowest since 2000.


    What you are saying is happening is not happening Pooh. Numbers are hard. A lot less police officers have been murdered under your tough on crime conservatives.


    1st Term police officer murders:
    Reagan 774
    Bushy Jr* 646
    Bush Jr 655
    Obama 583

    * I left out the officers killed on 911


    Officers murdered 2 terms:

    Reagan 1547
    Bush Jr 1314
    Obama (Estimate) 990

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-...data/year.html
    Not a fair comparison, because violent crime has gone down steadily over the past 25 years.

    Regardless of the actual number, I do find it irritating how Obama makes a big deal when a black guy is killed by cops under questionable circumstances, yet he says nothing when cops are specifically targeted and killed, including as some sort of race-related retribution.

    I'd like to see a list of targeted cop deaths in recent years versus the past. There's a big difference between a cop being killed because he's chasing a criminal and one being targeted because he's in uniform.
    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-...ww.google.com/

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    No political discussion would be complete without my worthless 2 cents so.......What is it in Trumps makeup that raised some great kids......No smoking no drinking, highly educated and successful. My gut tells me that with Trumps Marla Maples affair and divorce from their Mom when they were in there impressionable years, at least one of them should be a mess. And yet by all accounts they are fine people who seem to be devoted to their Dad. There is obviously a quality there that the public doesn't see. If he was able to keep them in line, can he not do the same with our enemies? I don't know but I for one would like to see him try. And his guffaws when he speaks....well have we forgotten how our supposedly well educated leader didn't even know how to pronounce corpsman? Fuck....I'm willing to wager all of our members know how. We are all smarter than that fool. Trump gets my support.

    Carry on.

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    Good point!!!

    Ive heard him on some lesser known interviews before this presidential run, he isactually well spoken well thought out , and considerate. Ask anyone from the aporentice(most)..


    His persona is a negotiating and marketing schtick that he can actually BACK UP and is helpful when dealing with the mainstream medea or the pc crowd. Its about time we stop apologizing to them and he is making themc ook like tilted children with an agenda.. ABOUT FKN TIME..

    Go trump..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bukowski72 View Post
    You said shit has never happened before. It is not happening now or in 2014. Or on Obama's watch.





    Who was President LAST YEAR? 2014. President Obama. 117 cops were killed (I put the wrong number) which is 4th lowest amount since 2000.

    Okay I will take that one. How about 2013? 107. The lowest since 1949.

    2012 126. 4th lowest since 2000.


    What you are saying is happening is not happening Pooh. Numbers are hard. A lot less police officers have been murdered under your tough on crime conservatives.


    1st Term police officer murders:
    Reagan 774
    Bushy Jr* 646
    Bush Jr 655
    Obama 583

    * I left out the officers killed on 911


    Officers murdered 2 terms:

    Reagan 1547
    Bush Jr 1314
    Obama (Estimate) 990

    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-...data/year.html
    Not a fair comparison, because violent crime has gone down steadily over the past 25 years.

    Regardless of the actual number, I do find it irritating how Obama makes a big deal when a black guy is killed by cops under questionable circumstances, yet he says nothing when cops are specifically targeted and killed, including as some sort of race-related retribution.

    I'd like to see a list of targeted cop deaths in recent years versus the past. There's a big difference between a cop being killed because he's chasing a criminal and one being targeted because he's in uniform.
    Druff, I'm disappointed in you here. Because you are parroting a false right-wing talking point. Because Obama *has* spoken out against the targeted killings of cops.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-unacceptable/
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    The same way he speaks out against killing jews or christians.

    Half hardidly and only for a moment but if a muslim complains about discrimination?? He is invited to the white house..

    Not even die hards at msnbc can cover for him with . A straight face anymore. Most have just stoped and dont understand(so they claim) so they have stoped defending him after all the christion deaths and slavery and he is still talking about the crusades.. the same goes for him defending cops.

    Him and holder worked with the comminity activist to rile things up not calm them down. Holder has also refused to investigate black panthers for killing dozens of white people and also that polar bear game..

    Your smarter than that mumbles

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    You're not your. The apostrophe takes the place of you are.
    My grammar is horrible but even I know this you brain dead asshole.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    You're not your. The apostrophe takes the place of you are.
    My grammar is horrible but even I know this you brain dead asshole.
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    I stay to myself and keep out of trouble and/or potentially problematic scenarios

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    Relax tubby




    And im just fucking around... just like im fucking around with you
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    The same way he speaks out against killing jews or christians.

    Half hardidly and only for a moment but if a muslim complains about discrimination?? He is invited to the white house..

    Not even die hards at msnbc can cover for him with . A straight face anymore. Most have just stoped and dont understand(so they claim) so they have stoped defending him after all the christion deaths and slavery and he is still talking about the crusades.. the same goes for him defending cops.

    Him and holder worked with the comminity activist to rile things up not calm them down. Holder has also refused to investigate black panthers for killing dozens of white people and also that polar bear game..

    Your smarter than that mumbles
    Islamophobic in the U.S. against Muslims is a serious problem, fed by the fear mongers among the rabid right-wing. Obama is doing the smart thing with such public efforts to quell any notion that idiotic actions by local officials reflects the policy of the federal government.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    The same way he speaks out against killing jews or christians.

    Half hardidly and only for a moment but if a muslim complains about discrimination?? He is invited to the white house..

    Not even die hards at msnbc can cover for him with . A straight face anymore. Most have just stoped and dont understand(so they claim) so they have stoped defending him after all the christion deaths and slavery and he is still talking about the crusades.. the same goes for him defending cops.

    Him and holder worked with the comminity activist to rile things up not calm them down. Holder has also refused to investigate black panthers for killing dozens of white people and also that polar bear game..

    Your smarter than that mumbles
    Islamophobic in the U.S. against Muslims is a serious problem, fed by the fear mongers among the rabid right-wing. Obama is doing the smart thing with such public efforts to quell any notion that idiotic actions by local officials reflects the policy of the federal government.
    Obama's left wing military has killed more muslims this year than anyone could possibly count. Kinda throws a wrench into your smear campaign.

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