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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Wasn't it Floyd Mayweather who wanted USADA drug testing in the first place?

    Then Mayweather knowingly violates the rules because he's a fucking cheater.

    No wonder Mayweather looked more energized and fresh in his fight against Pacquiao.

    Report: Floyd Mayweather received banned IVs before Pacquiao fight
    http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/...pacquiao-fight





    According to Mayweather's medical team, he was given two different mixtures of saline and vitamins to address dehydration concerns. While the mixes themselves aren't prohibited by WADA standards, their IV administration is prohibited by WADA guidelines because an IV infusion "can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient's system or might be added to it in the near future."
    You forgot one important thing...

    However a USADA source later told AFP that because Mayweather obtained a TUE (therapeutic use exemption), no offence had been committed under WADA rules.

    "Mr. Mayweather's use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC (Nevada State Athletic Commission) rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today," a USADA statement added.

    http://news.yahoo.com/truth-mayweath...055816855.html
    And Pacquiao is being a huge faggot about it...

    Philippine boxer Manny Pacquiao declared he was vindicated over previous drugs allegations from Floyd Mayweather after his American rival was accused of violating anti-doping rules before their mega-fight.

    Pacquiao said the "truth finally came out" after it emerged Mayweather received an injection of vitamins and minerals in the build-up to their fight in Las Vegas in May.

    Mayweather and the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) have both insisted the boxer's actions were legal after a report on the SB Nation sports news website said he had broken World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) rules.

    "Truth finally came out and I was vindicated," Pacquiao said in a brief statement to reporters in the Philippines late on Thursday.

    "(The) Mayweather camp accused me of using PEDs (performance-enhancing drugs). Now look what happened.

    "I hope Floyd Mayweather would learn a good lesson out of (the experience)."
    No Manny, you weren't "vindicated".

    I've been a huge Pac fan for a long time, and I HATE Mayweather. This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for me as far as Pac is concerned. Any excuse he can come up with as to why he lost that fight he has used, and IMO it's pathetic. He lost, badly, and nothing was going to change the outcome of that fight. Hurt shoulder, Floyd injecting vitamins and saline (OMG, HE INJECTED VITAMINS AND SALINE), none of it matters. Mayweather was and is the better boxer, period.

    And seriously, vitamins and saline is what we're talking about here. Not PED's, vitamins and saline, and he had the correct permission to do so. You can spin this anyway you want as there is a lot of protocol when it comes to filing the proper paperwork for shit like this, but the fact is Mayweather broke no rules here, and even if he did... Vitamins and saline the day before a fight are hardly something to claim you were vindicated over.

    Manny was being accused of using EPO, HGH and steroids, not vitamins and saline. Big fucking difference. An injection of vitamins and saline, which is extremely common before fights, does not warrant claiming you've been vindicated while you were being accused of using some serious shit. Saying shit like this just makes him look even more petty, guilty and stupid.
    He asked for permission 18 days after he had already done it... sooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post

    No Manny, you weren't "vindicated".

    I've been a huge Pac fan for a long time, and I HATE Mayweather. This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for me as far as Pac is concerned. Any excuse he can come up with as to why he lost that fight he has used, and IMO it's pathetic. He lost, badly, and nothing was going to change the outcome of that fight. Hurt shoulder, Floyd injecting vitamins and saline (OMG, HE INJECTED VITAMINS AND SALINE), none of it matters. Mayweather was and is the better boxer, period.

    And seriously, vitamins and saline is what we're talking about here. Not PED's, vitamins and saline, and he had the correct permission to do so. You can spin this anyway you want as there is a lot of protocol when it comes to filing the proper paperwork for shit like this, but the fact is Mayweather broke no rules here, and even if he did... Vitamins and saline the day before a fight are hardly something to claim you were vindicated over.

    Manny was being accused of using EPO, HGH and steroids, not vitamins and saline. Big fucking difference. An injection of vitamins and saline, which is extremely common before fights, does not warrant claiming you've been vindicated while you were being accused of using some serious shit. Saying shit like this just makes him look even more petty, guilty and stupid.
    The main problem with injection of vitamins and saline was that it was unsupervised and he asked for permission 18 days after the fight.
    Did Mayweather break the rules? Hell yes he did.
    Well anything be done about it? Nope. The fight's over and people don't care.

    According to Mayweather's medical team, he was given two different mixtures of saline and vitamins to address dehydration concerns. While the mixes themselves aren't prohibited by WADA standards, their IV administration is prohibited by WADA guidelines because an IV infusion "can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient's system or might be added to it in the near future."
    As for Mayweather being the better fighter?
    Both fighters were way past their prime.
    Pacquiao over-trained for the fight and honestly he had no real chance to win.
    The fight was a fucking track meet.

    Mayweather's fight versus Berto is going to be a fucking joke.
    I don't expect Berto to put up a fight, he is there to make Mayweather look good in his final boxing match.

    Mayweather -4000
    Berto +1500

    Is anybody betting on Berto?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    The main problem with injection of vitamins and saline was that it was unsupervised and he asked for permission 18 days after the fight.
    Did Mayweather break the rules? Hell yes he did.
    Well anything be done about it? Nope. The fight's over and people don't care.

    According to Mayweather's medical team, he was given two different mixtures of saline and vitamins to address dehydration concerns. While the mixes themselves aren't prohibited by WADA standards, their IV administration is prohibited by WADA guidelines because an IV infusion "can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient's system or might be added to it in the near future."
    As for Mayweather being the better fighter?
    Both fighters were way past their prime.
    Pacquiao over-trained for the fight and honestly he had no real chance to win.
    The fight was a fucking track meet.

    Mayweather's fight versus Berto is going to be a fucking joke.
    I don't expect Berto to put up a fight, he is there to make Mayweather look good in his final boxing match.

    Mayweather -4000
    Berto +1500

    Is anybody betting on Berto?

    "As for the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight........excuses"

    He's better than Pacquiao. He's always been better. Pacquiao had no chance to win because he's not fucking good enough.

    The Berto fight is a joke, but he'll be more competitive than Pacquiao was.

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    Always look at the prop bets closely in boxing otherwise you just fuck yourself.

    Better lines could have been locked in a few days ago but for what is available right now using Bovada as an example:

    Total Rounds: Over 11.5 -240

    Method of Victory: Floyd Mayweather Jr to win by Decision or Technical Decision -225

    Will the Fight go the Distance? Yes Fight goes the Distance -205

    You can take door #1, #2, or go for door #3. Door #3 gives you the option of either fighter winning (or draw) not that we need to worry about this Berto mutt but still we get that included in the value bet.

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    The takeaway from the Mayweather/USADA thing shouldn't be that Mayweather is a cheater or cuts corners or anything like that at all. Its that USADA cannot be trusted to make correct decisions and remain completely independent from those who pay for its services.

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    LOL...

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/manny-...182523930.html

    After a report found that Floyd Mayweather took a banned IV before his fight with Manny Pacquiao in May, Pacquiao wants the Nevada State Athletic Commission to punish Mayweather and is demanding a rematch.

    The World Anti-Doping Agency found that the fluids Mayweather took, which were used to prevent dehydration, were not illegal, but using an IV is, and some people believe it could be used to mask another substance.

    Pacquiao, speaking from his home in the Philippines, told reporters that the NSAC should "impose the appropriate sanction" on Mayweather over the report.

    Pacquiao added, "Are they hiding something? For the sake of fairness and for the good of the sport, NSAC must be consistent."

    Pacquiao then challenged Mayweather to a rematch, claiming he needed a fight in which he isn't injured and one where Mayweather's camp can't dictate the terms or use an IV.

    "That is why I want a rematch," he said. "One without any injury and with fair play. No favoritism. Not one where the Mayweather camp gets to dictate all the terms and conditions ... [The] Mayweather camp accused me of using PEDs. Now look what happened."

    It was revealed after the Mayweather bout that Pacquiao had a torn rotator cuff he had hidden before the fight. Due to a paperwork snafu, Pacquiao wasn't allowed to take a numbing agent before the fight.

    This isn't the first time talk of a rematch has come up, though it has been almost exclusively from Pacquiao's camp. The odds of a rematch haven't looked good, mainly because of both fighters' schedules.

    Mayweather fights Andre Berto September 12 and has insisted that this will be his last fight. Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, recently said Pacquiao is recovering from shoulder surgery and will retire in 2016 after a possible fight with Amir Khan.

    But the possibility of a rematch always remains for a couple reasons. The first bout resulted in a record-breaking purse for both fighters. Turning down that kind of payday would be tough for either side.

    Second, Mayweather's father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., has said he thinks Mayweather still has another fight in him after Berto. He told Jerry Izenberg of The Newark Star-Ledger that retirement isn't always permanent, and Floyd Jr. might want one more fight to retire 50-0.

    "I can't say he won't quit and then come back," Mayweather Sr. said. "I fought too may fighters, trained too many fighters, watched too many fighters not to know how many of them do come back — a year later, two years later."

    Mayweather Sr. also told reporters that "Things motivate people. Myself, I would say yes ... I believe he'll continue to fight after this."

    If Mayweather is willing to take one more fight, a rematch with Pacquiao could be the perfect opportunity. The payday would once again be huge, and if he's hoping to retire undefeated, a 37-year-old Pacquiao coming off of shoulder surgery would help his chances.

    But that rematch, as things currently stand, could be a while off.

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    The end is near soon for Mayweather but he claims tonight will be his last fight. I highly doubt it but going with this angle for one last large payday is the play.

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    Breaking news: Pacman wants a rematch because of Mayweather violating the "No IVs" rule just before the fight.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/manny...nned-iv-2015-9
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Breaking news: Pacman wants a rematch because of Mayweather violating the "No IVs" rule just before the fight.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/manny...nned-iv-2015-9
    http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post466334

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    Hired a bunch of day laborers (code for Mexicans) for a construction project.

    They were all on their phones & talking about Canelo. I don't really follow boxing. They were showing me pictures of this Ginger fighter from Mexico.

    Their explanation to me was that this kid is to them what Derek Jeter is to us.

    I would sooner be interested in watching Saúl Álvarez than another May/Paq fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
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    Breaking news: Pacman wants a rematch because of Mayweather violating the "No IVs" rule just before the fight.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/manny...nned-iv-2015-9
    http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post466334
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Hired a bunch of day laborers (code for Mexicans) for a construction project.

    They were all on their phones & talking about Canelo. I don't really follow boxing. They were showing me pictures of this Ginger fighter from Mexico.

    Their explanation to me was that this kid is to them what Derek Jeter is to us.

    I would sooner be interested in watching Saúl Álvarez than another May/Paq fight.
    Canelo's fight with Cotto is going to be really good.

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    you do realize that mayweather already beat canelo over there ole sallamar also pretty convincingly if i remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    you do realize that mayweather already beat canelo over there ole sallamar also pretty convincingly if i remember
    Yeah, that came up but they argued he was just a pup.

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    lol it was like last year

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    dang 2 years ago where does the time fly also lol mexicans

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    also hashtag lol arkansas

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    I think people had the wrong impression about Canelo. Most everyone was under the impression that he was some kind of killer. Aggressive like Margarito, but with more speed and power.

    He's a boxer/puncher. His style won't ever allow him to beat Mayweather.

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    youuuuuuuuuuu obviously havent been listening to knowledgeable mexican fight fans bro

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    Guilty.

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