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    lol the university president was playing in some band and would pressure a local bar to let them play, even if most band members were absent?

    You've gotta be kidding me. I've never even heard of a high level administrator of a major university playing in some crappy band. What is he, 18?

    This guy really is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    lol the university president was playing in some band and would pressure a local bar to let them play, even if most band members were absent?

    You've gotta be kidding me. I've never even heard of a high level administrator of a major university playing in some crappy band. What is he, 18?

    This guy really is a joke.
    Yeah, the place was always pretty packed and charged a cover cause a band would be playing. Customers would get pissed cause they paid 5-10 dollars (depending on the day of the week) to watch one guy play drums and another guy trombone. So they'd say screw this and leave and the bar loses out when they could have instead of booked another band.

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    State College, PA in general is just a giant joke. A real town run by college students and a university.

    All the real estate there that you can rent from is a joke, dorms forced people out on spring break even if they were from out of the country (forcing people from across the world to either fork up the money to fly home, fork up money to stay in a hotel for a week, or pray that one of their friends with an apartment was staying over spring break). The apartments were disgustingly inflated. I paid 600 a month in rent to live in a room that was 7ft by 4ft and share a bathroom with 4 people and a kitchen with 8.

    I had one apartment I stayed in, which was fully furnished, refuse to give me back my security deposit and tried to charge me 1800 dollars in "damages". When I asked for a list of "damages" I got a sheet of paper that listed 2 pieces of furniture being removed for $200 each and 5 large trash bags removed from my bathroom for $50 each and a bunch of random other shit that made no sense. I rented the apartment fully furnished because all I had was a TV, my computer, and a mini fridge. All of these I had taken with me to my new apartment. The bathroom was so small you couldn't even fit 1 large trash bag in there and I cleaned that bathroom before I left regardless. Turns out a bunch of people had issues with this place in the past in getting their security deposit back.

    When I called them they threatened me that they would get a lawyer unless I paid, I told them to fuck off until they listed specifically what they removed from my room and explained to them the items I had with me when I arrived and what I had with me when I left were the same items and that there was no way they removed furniture. I got a response back of "we'll talk to the people that did it." I never heard a thing from them again, never saw a cent of my deposit back, and never got charged for what they were charging me for.

    I've heard issues of this at tons of other people of other apartments in the area as well. My last apartment tried charging me for a new screen winder on my window when I clearly had it listed as an item missing on my arrival. State College real estate just charges ridiculously inflated prices and then try to scam money out of college kids that don't know any better on their security deposit.

    Fraternities are constantly getting in shit and nothing is done about it. Penn State initiated a point system, which was a total joke, it was like 1 point for being caught with an underage person drinking and other small crap. 2 points for like fights and shit. 3 points for serious injuries, damage to school property, instigating fights against opposing colleges. 4 points for rape (real LOL here). 5 points for serious sex offenses and other stuff. 5 points got you stuck on probation I believe. It was just outrageous. A frat could rape a chick and if the school deemed it not serious enough they could go on as if nothing happened.

    The majority of scholarship recipients/honors college students are:
    1. Minority
    2. Have alumni in their family
    3. From wealthy families that constantly donate massive amounts of money to the school
    4. Went to the local high school

    Football players, as with most schools, have free reign over the school. I remember one football player, I can't recall his name, while I was there went to an apartment where he heard some kid was talking trash on the team and proceeded to break down the door and then just started beating random people. He didn't get into trouble until later he pulled a knife out on someone at the school.

    Football players got free shit everywhere they went, even though it's against NCAA regulations, and most of them drove BMW's. Now I'm not saying these football players couldn't afford BMW's, but when you see brand new BMW's with several of the schools top football players, that's a little sketchy.

    I could go on and on and on. The school is so royally fucked up in the head. I say they fire everybody and start over. I'm glad I left that school and finished at a school that actually gives a shit about the every day, slightly above 3.0 student.

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    i don't understand why both him and his lawyer are smiling like goons in nearly ever photo.

    I mean, I get that Sandusky is likely insane but the lawyer seems equally detached from reality.

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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...h-defense.html

    Jerry Sandusky Trial: The Defense’s Risky Psych Defense
    by Diane Dimond Jun 17, 2012 5:26 PM EDT


    Lawyers for the ex-coach may call a psychologist to testify that their client has a personality disorder. Diane Dimond on why the move could backfire. Plus, will Dottie take the stand?

    Defending Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State coach accused of 52 counts of sexual abuse against young boys, can’t be an easy job. So it’s no surprise that his lawyers have come up with a strategy that’s already being mocked by opposing counsel. Is Sandusky a pedophile—or an undiagnosed victim of histrionic personality disorder?
    Jerry Sandusky

    In one of several handwritten letters from Sandusky to one of the young men now accusing him of sexual abuse—missives the witness described to the jury as “creepy love letters”—the former Penn State defensive coordinator wrote, “I have many Forrest Gump qualities. As you can imagine I cried at that movie.”

    As the prosecution seems ready to rest its case and turn the floor over to defense attorney Joe Amendola, it seems that the defense’s strategy will be to expand on Sandusky’s vision of himself as someone who is developmentally different—but not criminal. Amendola said as much during his opening statement to the jury last week. “There are no victims in this case. Victims only come about when you 12 people decide there are victims. Mr. Sandusky has always said he is innocent.”

    Late Friday afternoon, as the trial was in recess, Centre County Court Judge John Cleland issued an unusual ruling that helped clear the way for this tactic, allowing Amendola and his team to call an expert witness to testify about histrionic personality disorder, or HPD, as it’s known. It is rare in Pennsylvania for expert testimony to come into a trial, because the commonwealth believes it encroaches upon the role of a jury, that they are better off using their common sense to decide a case. However, expert witnesses are approved if they are to present information not commonly known to the population. It’s a safe bet that the Sandusky jury hasn’t got a clue about HPD.

    In its motion requesting permission to present an expert psychologist, Sandusky’s team had written, “The goal of a person suffering from this disorder in writing those letters would not necessarily be to groom or sexually consummate a relationship in a criminal manner.“

    The American Psychiatric Association says those suffering from the disorder are characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriately seductive behavior. They are described as enthusiastic and flirtatious; they crave stimulation and may exhibit sexually provocative behavior. They often put themselves in risky situations and fail to see their own personal situation realistically. While some of those descriptions may apply to Jerry Sandusky, not helpful to his case is that HPD is most often diagnosed in women.

    (The defense motion did not mention that the American Psychiatric Association’s website reports that HPD is currently in the process of being eliminated as a diagnosis.)

    Lawyers close to the case say the defense strategy could easily backfire, because there is an important condition attached. The judge declared that if the defense puts its expert on the stand, it will also have to make Sandusky available for psychological evaluation by an expert for the prosecution. (There are reports that the prosecution’s evaluation took place on Sunday, and so would not delay the trial.)

    “Now that he’s accused of molesting little boys, he’s suddenly diagnosed with a histrionic personality? What a joke.”

    Several legal experts told The Daily Beast the prosecution’s mental-health examiner might very well get on the stand and tell the jury they were unable to diagnose HPD but, instead, discovered a pedophilic disorder. Attorney Slade McLaughlin, who represents Victim No. 1, the accuser whose allegations first sparked this Sandusky investigation, says it’s a risky tactic.

    “The defense has so few cards to play here that they are now stooping to claiming a mental disorder as some justification for their client’s bizarre behavior,” McLaughlin said. “In my opinion, Sandusky does have a psychological disorder—one that undoubtedly will be uncovered by the attorney general’s examining psychiatrist: pedophilia.” McLaughlin, whose 18-year-old client appeared to be among the most physically and emotionally crippled, borders on anger when he talks about what his client has allegedly been through.

    “How is it that Jerry Sandusky managed to reach the age of 68 with no diagnoses of any psychological disorder, but now that he’s accused of molesting little boys, he’s suddenly diagnosed, according to his attorneys, with a histrionic personality? What a joke.”

    Attorney Thomas Kline, who represents accuser No. 5, also told The Daily Beast the HPD defense is dangerous. But at this stage of the trial, after the shocking testimony of eight alleged victims and the eyewitness account of sexual abuse on a young boy as described by Penn State assistant coach Michael McQueary, Sandusky’s team has little to lose allowing the government to examine him.

    “Amendola will get a report from the prosecution and can decide whether to put on his expert,” Kline explained. “The prosecution will only be allowed a rebuttal witness if and when the defense puts on their expert. So Amendola gets to see what the prosecution has in rebuttal, and then can decide. It costs the defense nothing to play out this strategy,” says Kline.

    Because of a pending gag order on the trial attorneys, the media, and the public will likely find out whether Amendola decides to present his psychological expert at the last moment.

    The most intriguing questions throughout the trial, of course, had to do to whether the defense will call either the defendant himself or his wife, Dottie Sandusky. A clue came during Amendola’s opening statement.

    For an adult to take a shower with a youngster, he told the jury, “may sound odd. But in Jerry Sandusky’s world—and you’ll hear from him—it was routine to work out and take a shower and he did that with some of these kids. But,” he said with deliberately emphasis, “taking a shower is not a crime.” When Amendola made that statement on the first day of trial, eyebrows were immediately raised. He had just promised the jury they would hear from the defendant. Will he follow through?

    Nothing was mentioned in the opening statements about testimony from Dottie Sandusky, but she was led out of the courtroom on that first day after the judge announced that any potential witnesses must leave the courtroom. At first, no one moved. But after a whispered sidebar conference, a uniformed bailiff appeared to escort Mrs. Sandusky and a young male out of the room.

    The jury must surely wonder what Mrs. Sandusky knew, didn’t know—or refused to see.

    “It always happened at night,” alleged victim No. 1 told the jury of his abuse. “His wife was always upstairs.” This witness, like all the other young men who were asked, said Dottie Sandusky never came downstairs to what was described as a sort of boy-cave. It was large basement outfitted with an air hockey and pool table, a dart board, television, a waterbed, and lots of other boy-oriented games.

    Another accuser told the court that when he traveled to the Outback Bowl with Mr. and Mrs. Sandusky in 1999, Dottie walked into their shared hotel room just as the coach was making a forceful sexual move on him as he tried to get into the shower. “She called out her husband’s name and said, ‘What are you doing in there?’” The man, now 28, told the court he quickly jumped in the shower and didn’t hear the rest of the conversation.

    The fourth accuser to appear said he had rebuffed Sandusky’s sexual advances so many times that he stopped calling to take the young boy to Penn State football games. “I was confused and upset by it,” he told the prosecutor. “So my mom called Dottie about it. Then I got tickets to go to the games again. I got tickets but he didn’t come to pick me up anymore.” It was a further indication that Dottie Sandusky knew of her husband’s young male companions and that the relationships didn’t always go smoothly.

    The last accuser to take the stand, an 18-year-old who appeared wearing an eyepatch over a recent injury, looked like a wounded bird as he took the stand. “His wife was at home but she was always upstairs,” he said. Recounting the time the alleged sexual activity had allegedly escalated to violent anal sex, he was asked, “You said you screamed?” He answered meekly, “Yes.”

    “Was Mrs. Sandusky home?” he was asked.

    The young man said, “Yes, [but] I think the basement is soundproof.”

    And of all the Sandusky home photographs the prosecutor displayed on the court’s big screen which featured the coach with his arms around handsome young boys between the ages of about 10 to 14, not one photograph included Dottie Sandusky.

    During the commonwealth’s case, defense attorney Amendola tried repeatedly to paint the accusers as being motivated by money. While some admitted they had lawyers, each testified they had had no discussions about filing a civil suit for damages after the criminal trial. Amendola’s other most frequent tactic was to attempt to discredit the young accusers by pointing out conflicts in their Grand Jury testimony. That strategy also seemed to fall flat, as most discrepancies were over dates or the number of overnight visits to the Sandusky home.

    There has been rampant speculation (with no confirmation) that both Sanduskys will testify. Attorney McLaughlin calls it a must-do “Hail Mary pass” for a doomed case. “There are rumblings about her possibly being indicted as an accomplice to some of the assaults,” McLaughlin said. “If I was advising Dottie, I would advise her not to testify because of the possibility that her own testimony might incriminate her, and subject her to prosecution.”

    No witness list has been released, so whatever the rumor du jour about defense strategy, it is uninformed conjecture at this point. In addition to possibly calling the psychologist to testify about HPD, the defense may try to focus on discrepancies in various police reports. They may call young men who were involved with Sandusky’s Second Mile charity who have only positive things to say about the defendant. Amendola may also have found some former Penn State alumni to come to Sandusky’s defense, but given the atmosphere in this proud Ivy League community, that seems unlikely.

    In the end, it may be that Jerry and Dottie Sandusky are the only cards in the defense team’s deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    i don't understand why both him and his lawyer are smiling like goons in nearly ever photo.

    I mean, I get that Sandusky is likely insane but the lawyer seems equally detached from reality.
    Exactly. I was thinking somehow this lawyer had fooled Sandusky into thinking he had a chance, once he saw how court was going, he'd know he doesn't have any chance at all and just kill himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
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    Kids say the darnedest things these days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    State College, PA in general is just a giant joke. A real town run by college students and a university.

    All the real estate there that you can rent from is a joke, dorms forced people out on spring break even if they were from out of the country (forcing people from across the world to either fork up the money to fly home, fork up money to stay in a hotel for a week, or pray that one of their friends with an apartment was staying over spring break). The apartments were disgustingly inflated. I paid 600 a month in rent to live in a room that was 7ft by 4ft and share a bathroom with 4 people and a kitchen with 8.

    I had one apartment I stayed in, which was fully furnished, refuse to give me back my security deposit and tried to charge me 1800 dollars in "damages". When I asked for a list of "damages" I got a sheet of paper that listed 2 pieces of furniture being removed for $200 each and 5 large trash bags removed from my bathroom for $50 each and a bunch of random other shit that made no sense. I rented the apartment fully furnished because all I had was a TV, my computer, and a mini fridge. All of these I had taken with me to my new apartment. The bathroom was so small you couldn't even fit 1 large trash bag in there and I cleaned that bathroom before I left regardless. Turns out a bunch of people had issues with this place in the past in getting their security deposit back.

    When I called them they threatened me that they would get a lawyer unless I paid, I told them to fuck off until they listed specifically what they removed from my room and explained to them the items I had with me when I arrived and what I had with me when I left were the same items and that there was no way they removed furniture. I got a response back of "we'll talk to the people that did it." I never heard a thing from them again, never saw a cent of my deposit back, and never got charged for what they were charging me for.

    I've heard issues of this at tons of other people of other apartments in the area as well. My last apartment tried charging me for a new screen winder on my window when I clearly had it listed as an item missing on my arrival. State College real estate just charges ridiculously inflated prices and then try to scam money out of college kids that don't know any better on their security deposit.

    Fraternities are constantly getting in shit and nothing is done about it. Penn State initiated a point system, which was a total joke, it was like 1 point for being caught with an underage person drinking and other small crap. 2 points for like fights and shit. 3 points for serious injuries, damage to school property, instigating fights against opposing colleges. 4 points for rape (real LOL here). 5 points for serious sex offenses and other stuff. 5 points got you stuck on probation I believe. It was just outrageous. A frat could rape a chick and if the school deemed it not serious enough they could go on as if nothing happened.

    The majority of scholarship recipients/honors college students are:
    1. Minority
    2. Have alumni in their family
    3. From wealthy families that constantly donate massive amounts of money to the school
    4. Went to the local high school

    Football players, as with most schools, have free reign over the school. I remember one football player, I can't recall his name, while I was there went to an apartment where he heard some kid was talking trash on the team and proceeded to break down the door and then just started beating random people. He didn't get into trouble until later he pulled a knife out on someone at the school.

    Football players got free shit everywhere they went, even though it's against NCAA regulations, and most of them drove BMW's. Now I'm not saying these football players couldn't afford BMW's, but when you see brand new BMW's with several of the schools top football players, that's a little sketchy.

    I could go on and on and on. The school is so royally fucked up in the head. I say they fire everybody and start over. I'm glad I left that school and finished at a school that actually gives a shit about the every day, slightly above 3.0 student.
    I went to Penn State, too, and I agree with most of what you said. The apartment situation in State College is a complete joke. There are more students looking to live off campus than there are available apartments. This gives the real estate companies no incentive to maintain its apartments, and they jack up rent to ridiculous levels. (As well as refuse to give back security deposits.)

    I find it funny that campus safety was so quick to slap students with underage drinking charges, all while this was being swept under the rug. I will always love Happy Valley, but the Sandusky story wasn't an isolated situation as far as corruption.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7229980

    There were warning signs before the whole Sandusky story broke.

    Paterno did so many great things for the University, but he definitely had a dark side and he wasn't the angel that many made him out to be. He should have retired after '94. He really started to falter in handling ethical dilemmas as he got older. I honestly think he was senile and not all there.

    I once saw him get out of his car at an intersection and just walk away. It was pouring rain. I think he lost a few of his marbles.
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--...er-brooks.html

    Jerry Sandusky's defense doesn't refute charges, instead relies on character witnesses
    By Dan Wetzel | Yahoo! Sports – 45 minutes ago


    BELLEFONTE, Pa. – Just after court had been adjourned for lunch Monday, Jerry Sandusky and a member of his legal team gathered in front of a defense table that held a series of boxes, including one labeled "Accusers/Alleged Victims File (5-10) Box No. 2 of 2."

    Jerry Sandusky leaves the Centre County Courthouse following his child sexual-abuse trial. (Getty Images)Sandusky wanted a file pulled that contained information on Victim No. 9, whose mother had just testified that when her son, now 18, turned about 14 or 15, he started having "a lot of problems."

    "He wasn't bad in school," she said. "He just didn't care."

    That downward arc, Sandusky believed, coincided with the boy breaking off his interactions with Sandusky and his Second Mile charity.

    "See," Sandusky said, pointing to some dates on the file, "that was after he was with me."

    Sandusky clearly meant "with me" in a mentoring role and wasn't admitting an inappropriate relationship.

    Still, he'd said something telling, namely that Sandusky doesn't view the relationship as inappropriate at all. To Jerry Sandusky, the story of a troubled boy and indifferent student was a sign that his previous work had yielded positive results. If the kid hadn't broken away, maybe things would have been fine.

    Sandusky closed up the file, stuffed it into the oversized black three-ring binder he carries around and headed off, talking about getting a sandwich.

    Yes, even after Victim No. 9 had wept on the witness stand last Thursday and detailed being forced into repeated acts of oral and anal sex by Sandusky. Even after he'd described screaming from Sandusky's basement in the hope someone would save him. Even after he conveyed general disgust at Sandusky expressing love for him – "It was creepy, I was a kid," he'd testified.

    [Related: Dan Wetzel: Sandusky's best hope in trial is to testify]

    Even after the boy's mother bawled on the witness stand and disclosed regret at not realizing what her son was going through. Even after the boy said he'd often bleed from the assaults and his mother testified she kept asking why he often returned from the Sandusky's without his underwear – "He'd tell me he'd have an accident in them and he threw them out."

    Even after all of that, Jerry Sandusky was flipping through a file and basking in some notion that he'd been good for the boy all along.

    Once the kid turned his back on him and Second Mile, that's when the trouble came.

    This is the delusion Jerry Sandusky appears to still operate under and, based on his defense's seemingly ineffectual first day of presenting evidence, what the defense is trying to impart to the jury.

    Sandusky seems to carry the carefree attitude that this is all just a misunderstanding, that he was always a kind-hearted guy whose positive impact on troubled boys is being misconstrued, especially by his accusers.

    If only people would see how much he helped, they'd never believe these tales of hurt, no matter how many kids the prosecution trots out to cry on the witness stand.

    That's a fantasy of course. That isn't a viable defense.

    Sandusky, a former Penn State defensive coordinator, is facing 51 counts (the prosecution dropped one Monday) of sexually molesting children. On Monday, at the conclusion of the trial's fifth day, Judge John Cleland predicted to the jury that the defense would rest Wednesday, closing arguments would come Thursday and they should prepare to be sequestered during deliberations after that.

    On Monday, the jury arrived rested after a long weekend, and the defense seized the opportunity with a resounding whimper.

    Its first witness was former Penn State assistant coach Dick Anderson, who in a dry monotone described (and described and described) the considerable work requirements of coaching the Nittany Lions (CliffsNotes version: They have a lot of meetings).

    The implication was that Sandusky had little free time to play racquetball and shower with boys while working under demanding head coach Joe Paterno. Perhaps, but he did have plenty of time for Second Mile, and even if true, since he retired in 1999 the too-busy defense would apply only to some of the alleged victims.

    [Related: Neighbors of jurors in Sandusky trial don't support him, want justice]

    More memorable was Anderson, and later fellow former assistant coach Booker Brooks, explaining they too had showered with young boys, either in the Penn State locker room or the local YMCA. Both clearly stated they'd never engaged in the kind of behavior Sandusky has admitted to, such as hugging, wrestling and soaping up the kids, sometimes in empty locker rooms late at night. Still, the testimony was memorable.

    "At the YMCA, at Penn State, at other places," Anderson said of places he'd showered where boys were present. "The first time I took a shower in high school was with coaches; it was part of my life."

    "You showered with young boys?" deputy attorney general Joseph E. McGettigan III asked Anderson on cross-examination.

    "Oh, yes," Anderson said.

    "Eleven year olds?" McGettigan said.

    "Oh, yes," Anderson said.

    "Who you didn't know?" McGettigan said.

    "Oh, yes," Anderson said. "I still do. There are regularly young boys at the YMCA showering at the same time there are older people showering."

    "Do you hug him in the shower?" McGettigan said.

    "No," Anderson said.

    Brooks testified that he's taken his granddaughter, whose age wasn't specified, into the showers with him at the YMCA.

    The testimony's impact on the case is likely minimal and it was explained in a reasonable and, you could certainly argue, innocent fashion by the coaches. Still, it may raise the obvious question of what exactly is going on with these Penn State football coaches?

    The idea that the defense is going to convince the jury that it's routine for grown men to shower with boys they don't know is highly unlikely.

    Even then, the other coaches were clear they'd never come close to crossing the lines Sandusky has admitted to, let alone the ones alleged. It's apples and oranges, so what was the point of their testimony in the first place?

    Later, the defense called a parade of witnesses to speak on Sandusky's behalf.

    There was the Army veteran who had positive memories of Second Mile. There was a co-worker at the charity that saw great acts from Sandusky. There was a local teacher who was impressed with Sandusky's dedication. There were the assistant coaches alluding to Sandusky's sterling reputation in the community. There was Anderson intimating that even the iconic Paterno held Sandusky in high regard.

    All of this is fine but isn't the heart of the case.

    There is no denying that Sandusky and Second Mile made a positive impact on many troubled youths or that prior to being the center of sexual molestation case most viewed the old coach as a good man or that the showers at the Y are open to all.

    But what about all those other kids who said Sandusky molested them? Remember them?

    This was a day of defense rooted in some imaginary world where secondary things matter, not the pertinent questions. Even then, the defense's witnesses weren't even all that positive or glowing. There wasn't one whose passion toward Sandusky would likely cause the jury to think this must be some big misunderstanding.

    Perhaps defense attorney Joe Amendola is saving his best for last. If so, the last better come soon. The brief defense schedule Judge Cleland laid out suggests Sandusky himself won't take the stand, since he alone would take up considerable time both in direct and cross-examination.

    Monday was the defense's big chance to make an immediate impression, to jolt the jury into believing that the state's case is rickety, that there were compelling counter facts, that Sandusky's side could trot out powerful witnesses, too.

    Instead it was some kind of strange ode to Jerry, strange ode to the normalcy of showering with boys, strange ode to the kind of delusion that makes Sandusky listen to a kid and his mom break down in terror on a witness stand and conclude that their problems didn't come until after they kicked Jerry Sandusky out of their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEX View Post
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    Kids say the darnedest things these days!
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    Sandusky reminds me of Drew Petersen.

    Accused of heinous crimes, hated by the public, and yet smiles and thinks he's going to easily beat the whole thing.

    Both of these guys have this obnoxious arrogance to them, to where you hope they are not only convicted, but publicly hanged.

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    Defense attorney Joe Amendola told reporters earlier Tuesday to "stay tuned" to find out if Sandusky would take the stand himself, comparing the case to a soap opera. Asked which soap opera, defense attorney Joe Amendola initially said "General Hospital," then "All My Children."

    How does this attorney have a license to practice law? How can you compare the case to a soap opera titled "All My Children"? LOL, but this guy is truly bizarre.

    Also, why would anybody in their right mind ever go to Penn State now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Also, why would anybody in their right mind ever go to Penn State now?
    After having experienced it, I wouldn't want to, but it really is an experience.

    Free booze, just find a party with 100+ people and walk in (trust me you won't have too hard of a time finding one), and hot and very easy college chicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Also, why would anybody in their right mind ever go to Penn State now?
    After having experienced it, I wouldn't want to, but it really is an experience.

    Free booze, just find a party with 100+ people and walk in (trust me you won't have too hard of a time finding one), and hot and very easy college chicks.




    That's every college town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post

    After having experienced it, I wouldn't want to, but it really is an experience.

    Free booze, just find a party with 100+ people and walk in (trust me you won't have too hard of a time finding one), and hot and very easy college chicks.




    That's every college town.
    Exactly, but it goes above and beyond most college towns in a lot of aspects. A lot of the kids that came to PSU for football games and shit would usually be blown away. That shit isn't for me though. People blamed PSU for firing Joe Paterno when they knew people were going to riot, truth is people were going to riot no matter what. PSU simply gave them a better reason to.

    I've seen full scale riots there for winning a football game against a rival, Obama getting elected, Penguins winning the cup, not liking guest speakers that were coming to campus.

    I mean throwing shit through business windows and setting shit on fire, not simply a gathering of angry people yelling.

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    Wow, I watched this Rock Center interview, too.
    I guess they wanted to wait for court to show that part, pretty damning.
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    During the interview, Sandusky said to Costas:

    “I didn’t go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I’ve helped. There are many (children) I didn’t have — I hardly had any contact with.”


    http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/nbc-vi...king-gun-30054

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    http://charter.net/news/read.php?rip...org%3E&ps=1013


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    Sandusky's son says his father abused him
    By MARK SCOLFORO and GENARO C. ARMAS Associated Press The Associated Press
    Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:43 PM EDT


    Sandusky's son says his father abused him


    BELLEFONTE, Pa. (AP) — Lawyers for one of Jerry Sandusky's adopted sons said the man has told authorities the former Penn State assistant football coach abused him.

    The lawyers issued a statement Thursday naming Matt Sandusky, one of Jerry Sandusky's six adopted children, and saying that the 33-year-old had been prepared to testify on behalf of prosecutors at his father's sex abuse trial.

    "During the trial, Matt Sandusky contacted us and requested our advice and assistance in arranging a meeting with prosecutors to disclose for the first time in this case that he is a victim of Jerry Sandusky's abuse," Andrew Shubin and Justine Andronici wrote in the statement. "At Matt's request, we immediately arranged a meeting between him and the prosecutors and investigators.

    "This has been an extremely painful experience for Matt and he has asked us to convey his request that the media respect his privacy. There will be no further comment."

    The statement was issued after jurors in the ex-coach's child sex abuse trial began deliberating 48 charges against him. The jurors are sequestered during deliberations.

    Lawyers for Matt and Jerry Sandusky and prosecutors did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    Matt Sandusky went to live with Sandusky and his wife, Dottie, as a foster child and was adopted by them as an adult.

    Shortly after the former coach's arrest in November, Matt Sandusky's ex-wife went to court to keep her former father-in-law away from their three young children. Jill Jones successfully obtained a restraining order forbidding the children from sleeping over at their grandparents' home.

    At around the same time, details emerged that Matt Sandusky had attempted suicide just four months after first going to live with the couple in 1995. He had come into the home through The Second Mile charity, which Jerry Sandusky founded, and was first a foster child before being legally adopted.

    During testimony last week, an accuser known as Victim 4 said Matt Sandusky was living at the Sandusky home at the time he stayed there overnight.

    Lawyers for Matt Sandusky and prosecutors did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Karl Rominger, one of Jerry Sandusky's lawyers, did not comment.

    Matt Sandusky went to live with Sandusky and his wife, Dottie, as a foster child and was adopted by them as an adult.

    Shortly after the former coach's arrest in November, Matt Sandusky's ex-wife went to court to keep her former father-in-law away from their three young children. Jill Jones successfully obtained a restraining order forbidding the children from sleeping over at their grandparents' home.

    At around the same time, details emerged that Matt Sandusky had attempted suicide just four months after first going to live with the couple in 1995. He had come into the home through The Second Mile charity, which Jerry Sandusky founded, and was first a foster child before being legally adopted.

    During testimony last week, an accuser known as Victim 4 said Matt Sandusky was living at the Sandusky home at the time he stayed there overnight.

    When asked by prosecutors whether Jerry Sandusky ever engaged him in a soap battle in the showers, he recounted the time when he and Matt Sandusky had been playing racket ball. After they were done, he said, they went back to a locker room. Matt got undressed and got into the shower and then Victim 4 and Sandusky followed him in there, he testified.

    "Me and Jerry came in. He started pumping his hand full of soap," he said.

    At that point, Matt shut off his shower and left and went to another locker room to shower, the witness said.

    Asked by prosecutors about Matt's facial expression when the soap battles started, he replied: "Nervous."

    Jurors began their deliberations Thursday after prosecutors described him as a serial molester who groomed his victims, while his defense lawyer said the former Penn State assistant football coach was being victimized by an overzealous prosecution and greedy accusers.

    Prosecutors said Sandusky was "a serial, predatory pedophile" who used gifts and the pageantry of Penn State's vaunted football program to lure and abuse vulnerable boys who came from troubled homes.

    "What you should do is come out and say to the defendant that he molested and abused and give them back their souls," Senior Deputy Attorney General Joseph McGettigan III. "I give them to you. Acknowledge and give them justice."

    Standing behind Sandusky, McGettigan implored the jury to convict him

    "He molested and abused and hurt these children horribly," McGettigan said. "He knows he did it, and you know he did it.

    "Find him guilty of everything."

    Sandusky's attorney said the 68-year-old former coach was being victimized by investigators who led accusers into making false claims about a generous man whose charity gave them much-needed love.

    "They went after him, and I submit to you they were going to get him hell or high water, even if they had to coach witnesses," Amendola said in a sometimes angry closing argument.



    This guy is a complete monster. Child molesters have it worse in prison than anyone else. This will be the justice. Hope it kills him slowly and painfully.

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    how long before somebody shanks and kills him in prison?

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