Originally Posted by sonatine
There is a big hole in this narrative; its one thing to get into these things early, its another to do it right.
People who do it right have minimal exposure and maximum returns. Micon's theme song seems to be maximum exposure, minimal returns.
Yeah the whole reason his list is so long is because micon ended up failing on executing each one properly, or else the list could've stayed at one and he'd be paid
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Never say never!
May take a decade or two but yeah you just jinxed yourself.
Not saying you'll be best buddies n shit but
you n Micon will end up reminiscing about the good ole days or sharing a laugh or two at a poker table or something.
Dutch is mentioned because: http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...sWithClubs-comGank played on SWC some and seemed pretty broke, talked about living in Cali @ some hostile
(guess he's always got those 20 acres of oceanfront property in the middle of Idaho).
Dutch rarely played of recent on SWC (at least under the "Dutch" screen name).
Dutch did just bink $288,000 something @ WSOP circa '14.
I CAME LATE TO THE PARTY WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN YOU GUYS???
DOUBT DRUFF WILL ANSWER....
+1
http://www.antiguagaming.gov.ag/file...0Licencing.pdf
cliffs:
- any company wanting a gaming license must be incorporated under laws of Antigua
- any owner with more than 5% stake must complete personal declaration which includes where all your money came from in last 5 years and details if youve ever been arrested regardless if charges were laid
- once all information and fee is received commission will grant a decision on your license within 60 days
-prevention of money laundering, How will the identities of the players be verified? What internal procedures will be employed
regarding ‘Know Your Customer’? How will monies, both deposited and withdrawn,
be monitored? These are some of the questions which must be taken into consideration.
-provide proof of capital. in addition you must also provide minimum of USD$100,000 as security (this is on top of fees)
- must provide business plan detailing accounting, finances, security, record keeping etc as soon as practical but within 90 days but before you begin conducting interactive gaming
- social responsibility - provide details how you will prevent underage and problem gambling
The thing with a lot of those opportunities was Micon inserting himself into someone else's brilliant idea. You know, an angle shooter. Rarely does the angle shooter do things correctly, but backs into a winner every now and again.. and then gets his ass kicked by those he angle shot. In this case the angle shootee is every B&M casino in Nevada that paid for the privilege of doing business there.
Would hate to think of the scenario we would be looking at if this was 1965 Las Vegas and he pulled this shit.
Last edited by 4Dragons; 02-24-2015 at 05:08 PM.
The thing with a lot of those opportunities was Micon inserting himself into someone else's brilliant idea. You know, an angle shooter. Rarely does the angle shooter do things correctly, but backs into a winner every now and again.. and then gets his ass kicked by those he angle shot. In this case the angle shootee is every B&M casino in Nevada that paid for the privilege of doing business there.
Would hate to think of the scenario we would be looking at if this was 1965 Las Vegas and he pulled this shit.
I gotta say, what worries me now is how the Antiguan locals are going to take to Micon's stick it to the man act.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
http://www.antiguagaming.gov.ag/file...0Licencing.pdf
cliffs:
- any company wanting a gaming license must be incorporated under laws of Antigua
- any owner with more than 5% stake must complete personal declaration which includes where all your money came from in last 5 years and details if youve ever been arrested regardless if charges were laid
- once all information and fee is received commission will grant a decision on your license within 60 days
-prevention of money laundering, How will the identities of the players be verified? What internal procedures will be employed
regarding ‘Know Your Customer’? How will monies, both deposited and withdrawn,
be monitored? These are some of the questions which must be taken into consideration.
-provide proof of capital. in addition you must also provide minimum of USD$100,000 as security (this is on top of fees)
- must provide business plan detailing accounting, finances, security, record keeping etc as soon as practical but within 90 days but before you begin conducting interactive gaming
- social responsibility - provide details how you will prevent underage and problem gambling
Like I said. A scam. He has no intention of getting one
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"Only God can judge me. So either LOVE ME or LEAVE ME ALONE"
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I would stack up on any amount that he thinks hes 100% going to get one.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I would stack up on any amount that he thinks hes 100% going to get one.
Maybe the application reads like a warrant. -Micon " I am not a lawyer and I don't understand a lot of what's in it."
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"Only God can judge me. So either LOVE ME or LEAVE ME ALONE"
IG- Changethegame71 tell me more about how much you hate me, even though you know you can't help but follow me
20 pages since I last opened this thread?
Cliffs for the too lazy to read crowd would be appreciated.
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honestly if youre looking for new info check out the 'dinosaurs are fake' thread.
BUCKLE THE FUCK UP FIRST.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
How about Druff and Micon had a falling out 4 years ago went on with each other their lives and moved on? There are several close friends over the years I had falling outs with, and just moved on. It's not that unusual. Not sure why there are all these conspiracy theories on why two people who were friends now simply despise each other.No, we don't.
I read somewhere Bill Murray and Harold Ramis once we the best of friends in all their move collaborations in the 80s (Ghostbusters, Stripes, etc...). Then in the mid 90s they had a huge falling out on the set of Groundhog Day. Even nearly 20 years later when Ramis was on his death bed, Murray finally made a glancing attempt to put it behind him, but by all accounts it was just an act, they still hated each other. Shit happens.
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How about Druff and Micon had a falling out 4 years ago went on with each other their lives and moved on? There are several close friends over the years I had falling outs with, and just moved on. It's not that unusual. Not sure why there are all these conspiracy theories on why two people who were friends now simply despise each other.
I read somewhere Bill Murray and Harold Ramis once we the best of friends in all their move collaborations in the 80s (Ghostbusters, Stripes, etc...). Then in the mid 90s they had a huge falling out on the of Groundhog Day. Even nearly 20 years later when Ramis was on his death bed, Murray finally made a glancing attempt to put it behind him, but by all accounts it was just an act, they still hated each other. Shit happens.
Not sure how seals is going to be the number one topic when obviously the dinos are the real scoop. If Druff can be the first to expose the fake scientists, so called 'paleontologists,' and the massive conspiracy to hide the truth all in an elaborate scheme to take our money so we can look at chicken bones on display, then he will become a legendary talk show host internationally syndicated, the biggest radio show of all time.honestly if youre looking for new info check out the 'dinosaurs are fake' thread.
BUCKLE THE FUCK UP FIRST.
Either way I hope this all gets cleared up soon. Because if Druff doesn't get on this soon, I'm sure Brian Williams will do a nice job lying and covering up for it when he is back on air in 6 months, with a puff piece about how little Tommy found a T-rex fossil right in his backyard.
They quit making the worst podcast effort that ever happened, together.
I CAME LATE TO THE PARTY WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN YOU GUYS???
DOUBT DRUFF WILL ANSWER....
The Chairman speaks some more...
A bit of new info in this Antiguan newspaper article: $20K in electronic equipment? And boy does he sound like he's trying to butter up those Antiguans.
http://antiguaobserver.com/ousted-ga...-for-business/
Ousted gaming company owner considers Antigua for business
February 25, 2015
The chairman of Seals With Clubs, a Bitcoin Poker gaming operation which US authorities suspect has been operating illegally, said he’s is considering moving his business to Antigua permanently after his Las Vegas home was raided on February 11, 2015.
The businessman, Bryan Micon who also confirmed to OBSERVER media that he is already in Antigua, denied reports he “fled” to this country to hide from US investigators who, in a search warrant, said his business is in violation of the Nevada Revised Statutes NRS 463.750(10b).
The warrant further alleged the gaming site does not have the appropriate licenses as required by State law NRS 463.160(1a).
In an exclusive interview, Micon said, “With the recent development with Seals With Clubs, my former partners didn’t want anything to do with it anymore for whatever reasons. Some of the guys we’re still working with are re-launching a server in Europe and are going to start offering Bitcoin poker to the world and they are very interested in settling here in Antigua and opening an office here,” he said.
The investor said he hopes they would succeed in setting up business here and he’s encouraged that Antigua has been fighting the US, through the World Trade Organisation (WTO), in a decade old dispute.
The entrepreneur added, “I have been watching the new Antigua government and it looks very positive to online gaming and tourism businesses and employing Antigua and creating new Antiguan jobs. So, it seems it is such a wonderful place to live and work and I’m considering to go through the motions to see what it’s like to base everything here.”
Micon said he became chairman of the company after his partners quit and “handed over all the assets” immediately following the raid.
He also said he is not suspicious of his partners who wish to remain anonymous, although they readily handed over everything to him, and have decided to walk away from the company without a fight.
Speaking about the online media reports that he’s evading prosecution by US authorities, Micon said he came to Antigua about a week ago, but added his trip was planned long before the recent raid.
The entrepreneur, however added that although it was planned for a later date, it was brought up by a few weeks to give his family “a break” from the trauma of the experience, during which his electronic equipment, valued at over US$20,000 and his wife’s phone, among other items, were allegedly taken from the family.
You have to tuck your feathers tight and fly high in this spot.
Make sharp moves. An old man once told me that in life, "sometimes less is more".. You may know your truths, but the timing when dealing with a criminal case isn't always "right" when you think it feels right. Let your lawyers handle all your public persona/brovada...
Bitcoin separates the legal case. Its valid, we played for bitcoin NEVER a USD!!!.
Yesterday's article is still up too: http://antiguaobserver.com/gaming-ch...s-police-raid/
This is only notable because Micon has been responding to comments on it, the big one being that he had signed a lease on a previous trip so already had a residence there. Considering the timing, I wonder if NGC raided his home earlier than they intended because of his traveling and getting living arrangements set up in Antigua.
Last edited by neorab; 02-25-2015 at 01:31 PM. Reason: thought about timing of raid
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