Tough to decide which sub-forum to put this thread in but 'stupidity' makes it fit here pretty well:
http://nevadapokerreviews.com/656/op...-biased-media/
In which one of poker's perpetually clueless writers proves again that he hasn't lost his touch.
isnt a poker writer accepting $10k gifts from the people hes supposed to write about a bit of a problem tho, ethically?
not trolling, i just think thats a valid point.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Calling anyone that works in poker media a journalist is maybe too strong a word. Nobody is giving anyone at TMZ much less pokernews a putzpuller prize anytime soon. It's entertainment journalism, and those people aspire to be just like the degens they cover.
Who gives a shit? The players decided to do something nice for him in return for all that he does for the poker community. Fuck, if you wanted to get on him for any conflict of interest as a reporter, him being a mod at 4 is more egregious.
Just saying, journalism ethics is pretty serious biz.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
He doesn't get paid for it. What's probably the highest of all on the egregious scale is that KevMath had to provide tens of thousands of dollars worth of free labor to Mason Fucking Malmuth before he could land a paid poker gig.Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
I agree Haley. It's not like this is 5 years ago and he is taking money from UB or FTP to cover up a story. Hell, I am=m amazed at how many times a player will tweet him a question about when registration closes or a tournament's structure and he answers back in no time at all. That is why the players love him and why they would put up their money to do something nice for him.
Same principle stands of course - but he does only have 30% of himself from the 10k buy in..
Not that I really care, but when you say he has 30%, does that mean he put up 3k or did he reserve a 30 point markup?
they paid markupNot that I really care, but when you say he has 30%, does that mean he put up 3k or did he reserve a 30 point markup?
Not that I really care, but when you say he has 30%, does that mean he put up 3k or did he reserve a 30 point markup?
Gets to keep 30% of anything cashed I think
(it appears that the deal is a 70/30 split, with Mathers able to keep 30% of anything he wins)
Funny the UB/AP reference, because all these poker-journo ethics stories lead there. I noticed this Burton crap ran on a domain owned by long-time affiliate Jeremy Enke. I don't have anything against Jeremy, but I do remember that when all the AP cheating evidence broke out he was one of the two or three affiliates fronting the denial messages coming from Peter Barovich and Danielle Burrows. Jeremy even went so far as to write his own op-ed (I think at PAW; I have it archived somewhere) claiming that the accusations about the AP cheating were as truthful and realistic as the moon being made out of green cheese. He quietly took that oopsie down a couple of years later.
Jeremy remains a board member at PN, last I heard, and the dark battles at PN over the AP/UB cheating are something I've never really revealed in full. Let's just say I'm a bit galled any time anyone connected to Tony G tries to get up on a pedestal. C'mon, you PN folks; I know better.
If that was my aim, I would have done that in '06. I rarely even play cards anymore, much less anything resembling looking at online poker media of any kind. My posts here are devoid of poker content. So no, but I take on clients from pretty much every business sector known to man, including gaming.Comments
Tyde: in other words you wished you had a job in the poker world
The dumbest thing about this article is that Kevmath isn't an op-ed writer or an investigative journalist.
He would be the worst one to bribe in the media because it wouldn't get you anywhere. It's not like he's going to be writing puff pieces for people or treating them more easily during some scandal. It's not his job to cover such things.
This was a case of everyone in poker liking him, and wanting to reward him for his dedication -- most of which he does on his own time.
Nothing wrong here at all.
Saw that kevmath at WSOP I thought he was the guy who modeled the pic of man baby wearing a diaper. Creepy. Sooooo 2 plus 2.
Most people in the poker media are biased and have major conflicts of interest.
Many write or report on poker tournaments because an online poker site is paying them.
Many date or are married to poker pros.
I think Tiffany Michelle was a pokernews reporter when she raised $10k and went deep in the WSOP main event about 6 years ago.
If you work for a "poker magazine" and you write a very positive article about a poker pro who is sponsored by an online poker site, which happens to be a major advertiser for your magazine, how can you call yourself an "independent journalist"?
But Haley, "Earl has written about poker, its participants, its politics and its growth over the past 10 years and is one of the most highly respected poker journalists in the game today."
Never heard of him.
I think Earl's been watching a little too much Almost Famous.
I followed the link in the article to his book review of The Noble Hustle and at least he's dead on in his negative assessment. What a steaming pile. Last month I ordered it from Amazon to read on the plane to Vegas and after reading about 100 pages I literally left it in the seat pocket of the plane because it wasn't worth carrying around. That's a first for me.
I think her Boss Tony G kicked down the 10kMost people in the poker media are biased and have major conflicts of interest.
Many write or report on poker tournaments because an online poker site is paying them.
Many date or are married to poker pros.
I think Tiffany Michelle was a pokernews reporter when she raised $10k and went deep in the WSOP main event about 6 years ago.
If you work for a "poker magazine" and you write a very positive article about a poker pro who is sponsored by an online poker site, which happens to be a major advertiser for your magazine, how can you call yourself an "independent journalist"?
One of my finest days on the internet was when I broke that Sebok was dating Danielle Burrows.Funny the UB/AP reference, because all these poker-journo ethics stories lead there. I noticed this Burton crap ran on a domain owned by long-time affiliate Jeremy Enke. I don't have anything against Jeremy, but I do remember that when all the AP cheating evidence broke out he was one of the two or three affiliates fronting the denial messages coming from Peter Barovich and Danielle Burrows. Jeremy even went so far as to write his own op-ed (I think at PAW; I have it archived somewhere) claiming that the accusations about the AP cheating were as truthful and realistic as the moon being made out of green cheese. He quietly took that oopsie down a couple of years later.
Jeremy remains a board member at PN, last I heard, and the dark battles at PN over the AP/UB cheating are something I've never really revealed in full. Let's just say I'm a bit galled any time anyone connected to Tony G tries to get up on a pedestal. C'mon, you PN folks; I know better.
Also I miss Seemas the Semen Master of PN fame.
Tiffany Michelle gargled on Tony G' man fat prior to that 10k stake.
And I don't blame either party.
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