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    Rousey fighting Cyborg doesn't make sense for her. If she wins she gains nothing and if she loses then her cred goes into the shitter, belt or no belt on the line.

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    Forget what Ronda wants, she'll fight whomever the UFC tells her to. The UFC would never put on a 145 or 140 lb fight with their 135 champion and no 145 division. It makes absolutely no sense to put your champ in danger like that, where she could lose but still hold the belt. Now the belt is worthless, the division is fuct, and you have a monster 145 lb woman with no 145 lb division.

    The ONLY way the UFC lets this happen is 135. Anything else would be retarded, and could only lose them money. That's been the deal all along, and Cyborg only finally came around to all of this in the last 6 months or so. She was signed to the UFC, for fuck's sake, and they were willing to pay her UFC money to fight in invicta while she cut weight, and she said no. She ended up in invicta anyway (Thanks, Tito!), making less money by all accounts, and she's gonna end up cutting the weight anyway if the fight is to ever happen, but now Ronda's a much better fighter than she was before. Cyborg probably could have beat Ronda if she followed the UFC's plan and timeline, but she didn't, and now Ronda's way more than just a monster judoka in MMA, she's the best woman fighter around.

    If and when they meet, Ronda wins. Cyborg blew her best chance. She'll still have a chance, but not a very good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Forget what Ronda wants, she'll fight whomever the UFC tells her to. The UFC would never put on a 145 or 140 lb fight with their 135 champion and no 145 division. It makes absolutely no sense to put your champ in danger like that, where she could lose but still hold the belt. Now the belt is worthless, the division is fuct, and you have a monster 145 lb woman with no 145 lb division.

    The ONLY way the UFC lets this happen is 135. Anything else would be retarded, and could only lose them money. That's been the deal all along, and Cyborg only finally came around to all of this in the last 6 months or so.
    But the only reason that Cyborg became part of the equation is because there is literally no humans left for Rousey to fight. I'd like to see her fight Bourdain's wife though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post

    But the only reason that Cyborg became part of the equation is because there is literally no humans left for Rousey to fight. I'd like to see her fight Bourdain's wife though.
    cyborg has been in the equation since the strikeforce days. She's always been Ronda's biggest possible opponent, save a squash match with Carano.

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    Here's tonight's deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post

    But the only reason that Cyborg became part of the equation is because there is literally no humans left for Rousey to fight. I'd like to see her fight Bourdain's wife though.
    cyborg has been in the equation since the strikeforce days. She's always been Ronda's biggest possible opponent, save a squash match with Carano.
    I was referring to recent history, post suspension. Previous to that Cyborg was always the one to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
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    But the only reason that Cyborg became part of the equation is because there is literally no humans left for Rousey to fight. I'd like to see her fight Bourdain's wife though.
    cyborg has been in the equation since the strikeforce days. She's always been Ronda's biggest possible opponent, save a squash match with Carano.

    this isnt really true tho.

    different weight class entirely plus such an egregious user of steroids that the ufc implemented a 1-strike-your-out policy on her, retroactively. and to put a more personal spin on it, she retired the face of womens mma while roided to her masculine gills. zuffa wants her to stop existing as quickly as possible.

    cyborg derailing ronda's train would be a catastrophe for them, one they cant afford if you look at recent ppv buys.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    cyborg has been in the equation since the strikeforce days. She's always been Ronda's biggest possible opponent, save a squash match with Carano.

    this isnt really true tho.

    different weight class entirely plus such an egregious user of steroids that the ufc implemented a 1-strike-your-out policy on her, retroactively. and to put a more personal spin on it, she retired the face of womens mma while roided to her masculine gills. zuffa wants her to stop existing as quickly as possible.

    cyborg derailing ronda's train would be a catastrophe for them, one they cant afford if you look at recent ppv buys.
    Doesn't help that Tito represents her either

     
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    thats.. an unholy union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Here's tonight's deal.

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    what site is this from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatire View Post
    what site is this from?
    http://bestfightodds.com/

     
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    Rousey will likely fight a bunch of weak sauce opponents before ever getting challenged. She is just so dominate and even though I know she will win every time I look forward to her seeing not only how it goes down but her walk out which is the more intense then any fighter in mma.

    Oh and...


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    You gotta wonder, would Bones have had the heart to come out with that toe of his for round 2 of Sonnen had survived another 10 seconds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    You gotta wonder, would Bones have had the heart to come out with that toe of his for round 2 of Sonnen had survived another 10 seconds?
    if he had I could see Chael doing the old school Royce Gracie foot stomps until Jones was crying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Forget what Ronda wants, she'll fight whomever the UFC tells her to. The UFC would never put on a 145 or 140 lb fight with their 135 champion and no 145 division. It makes absolutely no sense to put your champ in danger like that, where she could lose but still hold the belt. Now the belt is worthless, the division is fuct, and you have a monster 145 lb woman with no 145 lb division.

    The ONLY way the UFC lets this happen is 135. Anything else would be retarded, and could only lose them money. That's been the deal all along, and Cyborg only finally came around to all of this in the last 6 months or so. She was signed to the UFC, for fuck's sake, and they were willing to pay her UFC money to fight in invicta while she cut weight, and she said no. She ended up in invicta anyway (Thanks, Tito!), making less money by all accounts, and she's gonna end up cutting the weight anyway if the fight is to ever happen, but now Ronda's a much better fighter than she was before. Cyborg probably could have beat Ronda if she followed the UFC's plan and timeline, but she didn't, and now Ronda's way more than just a monster judoka in MMA, she's the best woman fighter around.

    If and when they meet, Ronda wins. Cyborg blew her best chance. She'll still have a chance, but not a very good one.
    Yeah the UFC is concerned about protecting that stacked 135 division. Theres only 1 fight everyone wants to see so Dana can talk shit all day about boxing and they wont put together the 1 fight everyone wants to see but hes doing the same thing.

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    RR doesnt even train with a good camp These armenian scrubs latched onto their golden ticket. The moron tells her things like she could beat any women in boxing in the olympics but what olympic boxing athlete has he ever trained. She believes that shit that why she says she could beat the top bjj chicks in bjj because the Gracie morons tell her that to keep their golden ticket. I know none of the nerds on here know it but most Gracies are considered clowns in todays bjj especially those 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    RR doesnt even train with a good camp These armenian scrubs latched onto their golden ticket. The moron tells her things like she could beat any women in boxing in the olympics but what olympic boxing athlete has he ever trained. She believes that shit that why she says she could beat the top bjj chicks in bjj because the Gracie morons tell her that to keep their golden ticket. I know none of the nerds on here know it but most Gracies are considered clowns in todays bjj especially those 2.

    you don't have to hespect the game, but you will hespect the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    You gotta wonder, would Bones have had the heart to come out with that toe of his for round 2 of Sonnen had survived another 10 seconds?

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    this one's like 3 deep so..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    RR doesnt even train with a good camp These armenian scrubs latched onto their golden ticket. The moron tells her things like she could beat any women in boxing in the olympics but what olympic boxing athlete has he ever trained. She believes that shit that why she says she could beat the top bjj chicks in bjj because the Gracie morons tell her that to keep their golden ticket. I know none of the nerds on here know it but most Gracies are considered clowns in todays bjj especially those 2.
    (A) obviously a trainer should never tell their fighter that they can beat anyone that is put in front of them because that will not help the fighter's confidence in any way

    (B) we all know that you can sub any Gracie in less than 2 minutes gi or no gi

    (C) you are never wrong concerning mma because everyone in the history of forums know that you traded with Duke Roufus and made Don Frye cry while sparring

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