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    Farewell to Eric Cantor Thread

    Pay your respects, the 2nd highest ranking GOP member lost to a wacky primary challenger despite outspending his opponent nearly 40 to 1. The Jews aren't too happy about it. Cantor was on track to potentially be speaker of the house and become the highest ranking Jewish official in US history. Cantor was also good buddies with Sheldon Adelson.

    Brat got his masters at Princeton Theological seminary, which "prepares women and men to serve Jesus Christ in ministries marked by faith, integrity, scholarship, competence, compassion, and joy, equipping them for leadership worldwide in congregations and the larger church, in classrooms and the academy, and in the public arena.” On Fox News Brat said he had "won support from Republicans across the board who were attracted to his espousal of fiscal conservatism and faith in God.” I assume he means his faith in Christian God as opposed to Cantor's faith in a Jew god.

     
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    Canton, that's like Hoofman right?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Canton, that's like Hoofman right?
    Damn

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    Republicans already tossed away 5 Senate seats by electing wacky candidates in the primaries. Now they're trying to do the same in the House.


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    I am sure we haven't heard the last of Mr Cantor....

    his district was redrawn since the last election and the electorate makeup shifted from solid conservative to ultra neo-fascist (my kind of place): Cantor was tea partied away...

    he will just find another Virginia district more his style and make another run...

    in the mean time he will undoubtedly be making appearances on Fox Noise TV/Radio, possibly landing a show---it will help his fanboys keep thier Cantor boner
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    I am sure we haven't heard the last of Mr Cantor....

    his district was redrawn since the last election and the electorate makeup shifted from solid conservative to ultra neo-fascist (my kind of place): Cantor was tea partied away...

    he will just find another Virginia district more his style and make another run...

    in the mean time he will undoubtedly be making appearances on Fox Noise TV/Radio, possibly landing a show---it will help his fanboys keep thier Cantor boner
    That guy has fanboys? He comes across as an unbelievably douchey, flip flopping, robotic nerd - like the one in a million douche type. His presence and unreal lack of appeal was definitely hurting the Republican party, this sentiment is universal among people my age in Texas.

    Douchebags like him are why Texas will soon go Democrat, effectively destroying the Republican chance of electing a president in the near future. This is going to happen, I have posted about it before on the other sites, but Texas is eventually going to go blue -- with the Hispanic vote and overwhelming amount of rich hippie white kids that are growing up it will.

    Still wondering who thought it was a good idea to elect him House majority leader. rofl

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    I'm from Mclean, Virginia (the liberal elitist part of VA) and I can attest to you that this guy was indeed the biggest douchebag in politics. He was certainly a closeted fascist and a massive nerd who is probably into interracial cuckolds in his spare time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    I am sure we haven't heard the last of Mr Cantor....

    his district was redrawn since the last election and the electorate makeup shifted from solid conservative to ultra neo-fascist (my kind of place): Cantor was tea partied away...

    he will just find another Virginia district more his style and make another run...

    in the mean time he will undoubtedly be making appearances on Fox Noise TV/Radio, possibly landing a show---it will help his fanboys keep thier Cantor boner
    That guy has fanboys? He comes across as an unbelievably douchey, flip flopping, robotic nerd - like the one in a million douche type. His presence and unreal lack of appeal was definitely hurting the Republican party, this sentiment is universal among people my age in Texas.

    Douchebags like him are why Texas will soon go Democrat, effectively destroying the Republican chance of electing a president in the near future. This is going to happen, I have posted about it before on the other sites, but Texas is eventually going to go blue -- with the Hispanic vote and overwhelming amount of rich hippie white kids that are growing up it will.

    Still wondering who thought it was a good idea to elect him House majority leader. rofl
    I don't think Texas will soon go Democrat. It's got a long way to go for that to happen.

    However, I do believe the Republican Party is in trouble in general, and needs to come up with a unified message that appeals the the majority of Americans. The Tea Party is a fringe element which just makes the party appear out of touch.

    In 1994, Republicans finally did it right. There was public dissatisfaction with Bill Clinton and Democrats in general, and they put together a unified plan and message to attack Democrats where they were weak. That election ended up being the largest ass-whooping of the Democrats in modern times, and it was primarily thanks to Republican leadership zeroing in on the issues that were important to Americans, and highlighting where they were stronger than Democrats. Newt Gingrich, a very smart man who is great with ideas but poor at actually governing, led this successful 1994 effort.

    Since then, Republicans haven't had a 1994, and their 2010 victories were more a result of the failures of Obama/Reid/Pelosi than anything the Republicans did right.

    Right now, Republicans have the opportunity to hit it out of the park if they get the right message across and bring forth the right people to deliver that message, but so far they have dropped the ball big time.

    The modern Republican Party seems to be more of a contest of out-conservativing each other, and the more centrist/practical Republicans (like Mitt Romney) don't seem to quite have it all together.

    This is the poker equivalent of seeing your opponent at the table making tons of stupid mistakes, but also making plenty of mistakes of your own and failing to capitalize on his missteps.

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    adios motherfucker. I couldn't be happier

     
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    I was worried Eric Clapton had bit the dust.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    I was worried Eric Clapton had bit the dust.

    I think the PFA translatometer would have the headline say "Eric Ryland from the band Creamora had passed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    I was worried Eric Clapton had bit the dust.

    I think the PFA translatometer would have the headline say "Eric Ryland from the band Creamora had passed"
    I thought the seagulls were going to have to stop following the trawler

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    As amusing as it is that Cantor is considered too liberal for today's Republican Party, unfortunately this guy will be even a bigger dick, and probably will insist women carry rape babies full term or something equally retarded. In no sane world can Cantor get outflanked from the right.

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-...pending-2014-6


    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor suffered the most stunning defeat in a generation on Tuesday night at the hands of an underfunded challenger whom he outspent by more than 25-to-1.

    How big was the spending disparity between the two candidates? Cantor's campaign spent more at steakhouses than his challenger, economics professor Dave Brat, spent on his entire campaign, a mind-boggling stat that was first noted by The New York Times.

    The Cantor campaign's expenditures, as recorded by the Center for Responsive Politics, show it spent $168,637 at Bobby Van's and BLT Steak as of May 21.

    Brat's campaign spent just $122,793 overall through that date.


    Cantor's loss sent shockwaves through the political world because it defied much political convention — incumbents typically have a big edge toward getting re-elected, especially for someone with as high a standing as Cantor. There was no polling to suggest Cantor was in trouble. But to guard against even a close outcome, Cantor's campaign spent enormously.

    "There is a lot of bad blood with conservatives who feel like he has repeatedly made them promises and betrayed them; constituent services that were run for Washington lobbyists, not actual citizens of the district; a very heavy-handed staff that was hard for constituents to deal with and for conservatives to reason with; and he took his eye off the prize," Erick Erickson, the editor in chief of the conservative website RedState, told Business Insider in an email Tuesday night.

    "He was looking at the Speaker's chair, not his own."



    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-...#ixzz34Nc1LjJn

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    ... In no sane world can Cantor get outflanked from the right.
    I don't come here for discussions of politics or religion. Since I'm a resident of the 7th District, I do know something about this little primary election. What you hear in the national media might not be accurate.

    Dave Brat (born in Detroit, BTW) is a college professor. He has been involved with state politics, as he worked with my district's member of the state senate. He serves on the (Democrat) Governor's Advisory Board of Economists. His campaign has been described as running to the right of Cantor, but that is misleading. While he did accuse Cantor as being for amnesty on immigration, Brat has some libertarian tendencies. He wrote, "The political Right likes to champion individual rights and individual liberty, but it has also worked to enforce morality in relation to abortion, gambling, and homosexuality." I have many friends and neighbors who know well. He is Roman Catholic. (I am not, if you're wondering.) The media touted him as "Tea Party-backed", but he got no donations and little support from national groups and the local Tea Party groups aren't exactly heavyweights.

    I voted for Eric Cantor four times, more than any other politician. I did live in Pittsburgh for 8 years, so I missed a few elections. I don't know him personally. He was an early adopter of technology and used an email newsletter in the 90's. He has represented me well over the years. His rise in party leadership seems to correspond with dissatisfaction among his constituents. Some of the high-level political machinations are easily construed as compromise and moderation. His election percentage has gone down for the past 4 elections from 75% in 2004 to 58% in 2012. I heard many people complain that Cantor no longer shows interest in personal correspondence, town halls, etc. I couldn't argue that he did seem to change.

    Cantor's campaign came down hard on Brat immediately. They labeled Brat as a liberal college professor. Randolph-Macon College is NOT UC Berkeley, in just about every way. Brat's service on the Governor's board was painted as "working with that liberal Tim Kaine." Cantor would not back down on these points, although they were fairly transparent. Cantor did go on local radio to discuss the campaign, but he would not agree to a debate. The Cantor campaign mail and phone calls were disturbing, unwavering and seemingly unending. I think this outraged and encouraged Brat's supporters.

    National media comment that Cantor lost due to voter turnout, although voting was up about 40%. Someone even said rain kept people away. (Thunderstorms were scattered, if at all.) Some claim that Cantor's stance on immigration was a major issue, and one attack that Brat did mount. But that is oversimplifying. I think it is more likely that most people saw Cantor as a Republican leader, and they wanted a representative again. It almost seems like people went to send Cantor a message, thinking that the everyone else would keep him in; most of everyone else stayed home.

    My wife was inspired to vote based on Cantor's negative campaign. After we walked out of the voting precinct, she asked me how I voted. I said I didn't want to talk about it. I've never felt bad after voting for the winner before. I could not vote for Cantor this time... it was the lies. Voting out an incumbent and leader opens up quite a can of worms. I think Democrats are more likely to spend money against Brat compared to Cantor. I'm not happy.

    Cliffs:
    - Tea Party-backed candidate... not exactly
    - send a good man to Washington, get back a politician
    - Party Leadership vs. District Representation
    - Campaign of hubris and lies
    - <sigh>

    SSL.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithbk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    ... In no sane world can Cantor get outflanked from the right.
    I don't come here for discussions of politics or religion. Since I'm a resident of the 7th District, I do know something about this little primary election. What you hear in the national media might not be accurate.

    Dave Brat (born in Detroit, BTW) is a college professor. He has been involved with state politics, as he worked with my district's member of the state senate. He serves on the (Democrat) Governor's Advisory Board of Economists. His campaign has been described as running to the right of Cantor, but that is misleading. While he did accuse Cantor as being for amnesty on immigration, Brat has some libertarian tendencies. He wrote, "The political Right likes to champion individual rights and individual liberty, but it has also worked to enforce morality in relation to abortion, gambling, and homosexuality." I have many friends and neighbors who know well. He is Roman Catholic. (I am not, if you're wondering.) The media touted him as "Tea Party-backed", but he got no donations and little support from national groups and the local Tea Party groups aren't exactly heavyweights.

    I voted for Eric Cantor four times, more than any other politician. I did live in Pittsburgh for 8 years, so I missed a few elections. I don't know him personally. He was an early adopter of technology and used an email newsletter in the 90's. He has represented me well over the years. His rise in party leadership seems to correspond with dissatisfaction among his constituents. Some of the high-level political machinations are easily construed as compromise and moderation. His election percentage has gone down for the past 4 elections from 75% in 2004 to 58% in 2012. I heard many people complain that Cantor no longer shows interest in personal correspondence, town halls, etc. I couldn't argue that he did seem to change.

    Cantor's campaign came down hard on Brat immediately. They labeled Brat as a liberal college professor. Randolph-Macon College is NOT UC Berkeley, in just about every way. Brat's service on the Governor's board was painted as "working with that liberal Tim Kaine." Cantor would not back down on these points, although they were fairly transparent. Cantor did go on local radio to discuss the campaign, but he would not agree to a debate. The Cantor campaign mail and phone calls were disturbing, unwavering and seemingly unending. I think this outraged and encouraged Brat's supporters.

    National media comment that Cantor lost due to voter turnout, although voting was up about 40%. Someone even said rain kept people away. (Thunderstorms were scattered, if at all.) Some claim that Cantor's stance on immigration was a major issue, and one attack that Brat did mount. But that is oversimplifying. I think it is more likely that most people saw Cantor as a Republican leader, and they wanted a representative again. It almost seems like people went to send Cantor a message, thinking that the everyone else would keep him in; most of everyone else stayed home.

    My wife was inspired to vote based on Cantor's negative campaign. After we walked out of the voting precinct, she asked me how I voted. I said I didn't want to talk about it. I've never felt bad after voting for the winner before. I could not vote for Cantor this time... it was the lies. Voting out an incumbent and leader opens up quite a can of worms. I think Democrats are more likely to spend money against Brat compared to Cantor. I'm not happy.

    Cliffs:
    - Tea Party-backed candidate... not exactly
    - send a good man to Washington, get back a politician
    - Party Leadership vs. District Representation
    - Campaign of hubris and lies
    - <sigh>

    SSL.
    Good to read from someone who lives there. Every single member of the House and the Senate should be scared shitless. My hope more than anything from this is that all politicians from both parties take a good long look at what they told their constituents they would do versus what they really did.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithbk View Post
    Cliffs:
    - Tea Party-backed candidate... not exactly
    Very good post. The media can be forgiven for this one. The moment that the election returns showed Brat was probably going to beat Cantor, all of the Tea Party groups that had previously declined to support Brat sent out press releases saying "Our boy Dave Brat won! We have the support of the public against the establishment."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smithbk View Post
    Cliffs:
    - Tea Party-backed candidate... not exactly
    Very good post. The media can be forgiven for this one. The moment that the election returns showed Brat was probably going to beat Cantor, all of the Tea Party groups that had previously declined to support Brat sent out press releases saying "Our boy Dave Brat won! We have the support of the public against the establishment."
    Brat just did an extensive interview with Mark Levin where they knoodled and fellated each other through a full segment where he spoke of being all with the Tea Party. I don't know enough about Virginia politics to know what all this is about, but it's pretty clear where this guy is throwing his chips in with.

    www.marklevinshow.com

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