Is it legal to surreptitiously record a conversation between 2 people outside talking?

[bottomset_69]

I love dogs, but I would not want to live near a pit bull under any circumstance. And forget the stuff about it being all owner driven. There was a story a while back where a couple had a baby in a crib and their one year old pit bull (that they doted on), chewed off the fingers of the baby while it slept while they were in the other room. Now their kid has no fingers and they have to explain to everyone they let a pit bull wander around their house.

Not saying your neighbor should have ruined your car, but I get the fact he does not want to live near your dog. They have a terrible track record and they have a clear record of attacking people, especially small kids for no reason.

[Pooh]

You never mess with a mans ability to earn a living. My blood boils reading this shit too. Does he deserve death? No.

[Pooh]

http://www.soyuno.8k.com/about.html

[Pooh]

I just can't believe the guy would fuck with your business.

[Pooh]

Just don't end up in jail over it.

[donkeykilla]

I would also go ahead and buy a few more pit bulls. That will grind his gears.

[NaturalBornHustler]

I would also go ahead and buy a few more pit bulls. That will grind his gears.

Told him that already.

I am allowed maximum of 3 in this county before I need a kennel license.

Once again though, huge expense for good bloodline...in the thousands. My dog was over 3k. In due time though, in due time.

[Hockey Guy]

I'm sure you'll be able to do anything you want to him.

I'm 100% certain he hasn't set up surveilance cameras of his own or taken other precautions to catch you in the act of fucking with his shit because only smart guys who frequent forums can think of that.

I agree people shouldn't fuck with a persons ability to make a living but you don't seem to be the most reasonable person to live next door to or be associated with.

Please update this thread when the murder takes place. I'm sure this thread won't make it to evidence in your trial. Have fun.

[tony bagadonuts]

That is what everyone tells me...set up cameras. But what is that going to do? He will obv see me putting them up and then he won't do anything anymore. I don't see what that will accomplish. It will also cost me even more time and money.

NBH, please reread your own words very carefully.

Decisions made in anger are decisions made in haste. If you escalate now you will play right into his hands. He's baiting you because he think's he's smarter than you, please don't prove him right.

Here are your priorities:

1. Protect your dog
2. Stop the harassment (fucking with your shit)
3. Payback

If you think that putting up cameras will cause him to stop, then put them up immediately. Make a big deal about it so he know's he can't fuck around anymore.

Once things have calmed down and you both have put this behind you, then do what you gotta do. But do it in a sober, non-emotional state.

[BetCheckBet]

I'm sure you'll be able to do anything you want to him.

I'm 100% certain he hasn't set up surveilance cameras of his own or taken other precautions to catch you in the act of fucking with his shit because only smart guys who frequent forums can think of that.

I agree people shouldn't fuck with a persons ability to make a living but you don't seem to be the most reasonable person to live next door to or be associated with.

Please update this thread when the murder takes place. I'm sure this thread won't make it to evidence in your trial. Have fun.

Seriously NBH. Would strongly encourage Druff or yourself to delete this thread. I've read enough messageboard forums to see guys get their lives trainwrecked from this sort of shit. And I know there are enough assholes who will gladly insert themselves in the middle of this shit for their own amusement. You want to fuck with this guys life then fine but have the intelligence not to do it on a public forum with identifying info.

[Corrigan]

links with Identifying info

remove those links - all it takes is 1 lurker to link him to this thread

[tommyt]

Smh

I rarely bash users for being an idiot but you have forced me to. Anyone else that knows about this situation other than yourself/wife is too many.

If you're going to do anything about it don't out yourself on a public forum or tell others. Do you honestly think everyone here has good intentions? It only takes 1 lurker or user to report you to this guy. Plus, all this evidence you posted conspiring to retaliate is damning evidence against you.

You posted this shit from YOUR computer with YOUR account from YOUR house about YOUR neighbor and posted his personal info.

[Crowe Diddly]

I would suggest that this thread be moved to druff's super secret forum, just to keep it out of google's range. I mean, plenty of people google their own name, and you don't need to be leaving this type of shit out there.

[SrslySirius]

SS I appreciate the condom idea but that is a little too far out there....come on give me something realistic.

I have given you the blueprint to ruin the guy's life and get rid of him completely, at no cost and with with no ties back to you. All from the comfort of your own home. But you'd rather smash his things and not think too hard about it. Fair enough. RIP dog and good luck at the trial.

[JimmyG_415]

im sure you can use your mobile phone to record your conversation, you can even download apps....


oh, i forgot....sorry

Exactly, I don't get why you are even asking, that is why cops try and confiscate cell phones, they are admissible.

AS for the Pit, I'm not a dog guy, and I know it isn't the dog's fault, but they are dangerous, and they should be treated like guns.
Like you need a license to have one, etc.

I fucking hate when I'm in a store or walking down the street, and all of a sudden there is a kid w/ a monster pit bull, that no way he could control if it got angry.
I don't get how it is legal to leave your property w/one.

[Dan Druff]

Moved the personal info of the neighbor to the admin forum (only I can see it) for a "cooling down" period.

NBH, please reconsider. Not only will this guy find everything you've written about him eventually, but they will be able to find your house and probably figure out your full name.

I will move the info back if you really want, but I don't see what posting it here accomplishes.

[NaturalBornHustler]

Moved the personal info of the neighbor to the admin forum (only I can see it) for a "cooling down" period.

NBH, please reconsider. Not only will this guy find everything you've written about him eventually, but they will be able to find your house and probably figure out your full name.

I will move the info back if you really want, but I don't see what posting it here accomplishes.

I am the victim here, and everything I have written in this thread is 100% true.

I have been harassed, had my property damaged and stolen, and that shit isn't gonna fly.

[Charham]

Nothing else to it Tony, swear to God. He is completely unleashed when I am outside working, usually just laying in the driveway watching me or just hanging out. ( I have a large parking area in the back of the house, neighbor does too, they are adjacent with 4 foot picket fence in between) There is no need for a leash, because he just isn't aggressive and all I have to do is snap my fingers and he is right there if he starts wandering. ( I have 3/4 acre, huge backyard and another yard right out the back door that is fenced in.

Dog is outside for maybe 10 minutes at a time (I let him out, he pisses or shits and then scratches the door and I let him in. every single time), unless I am outside working on something and he is with me. He would never hurt a soul unless he thought I was in danger.

Does not bark, is literally the perfect dog. Completely not aggressive in any way shape or form, even walks up to the fence separating our properties when neighbors kids are in the yard playing wagging his tail. Never has looked at ANYONE sideways including the neighbor, just isn't in him.

Only time he barks is if someone knocks on my front door, that is it. When I first got him it took him a month before we even heard him bark once.

You have to remember I live in a city that is full of ghetto ass nigs who fight dogs, mistreat them and every other day there is something on the news saying how "dangerous" pits are. He stereotyped the dog from day 1, and now probably feels like a complete fool because in the 10 months I have been here the dog pays him or any of his kids (he does have two small ones) no mind.

As far as the poisoning shit, like I said I have a private yard out my back door that has driveway separating mine and his property and fenced in so no way he could slip him anything. And again I am outside with him if it is for any length of time.

As far as the lease option, it works for my situation. The house needed work much of which I have done over the past year and have increased the value significantly. With the sale price fixed from when I moved in, now when I get a loan I am going to be at 70% LTV and as you know it will be hella easier to get a good rate with it so low.

Thanks for the extra detail. If you have a calm dog with a good nature there's no reason why he can't meander around with you out front if you're there. The non barking is a bonus, sounds like this neighbor is just a clown. Regardless of this guy's kids..situation..whatever, if your dog doesn't show any signs of aggression or bad behavior of any kind then he is way, way out of line.

You have 3/4 acre and your driveways are right next to each other? That sucks.

If you will really be at 30% equity when you exercise your option....well then fuck this guy. You don't walk away from that obv.

Hopefully you scared the shit out of him and now he will leave you alone, otherwise you need to man up and have a sit down. Apologize for the disrespect you showed him in front of his wife and get it sorted out. Business is business, and 30% equity is business.

If after that you still have problems, then sell, collect your equity and find another place. At least at that point you know you made effort to make it work.

Everybody has to eat some shit from time to time, but if you can come to terms it will be worth it.

. This is good advice. Peace with neighbors is pretty critical to quality of life. Just reading all of this stresses me out. Just listen to Tony's advice and follow it. You will be better off for it.

[JUSTIFIEDhomicide]

Sounds about right. I mean how did you know your phone was taping.

Exactly, but if I have to use in in a court of law will I be able to is the real question.

Everything I do has to be above board.

So you're a narc? Sweet life.

Ididapoopy is god

[Pooh]

Druff did the right thing. All it takes is one loser on here, and there are about 20, to send this guy an email directing him to this thread and it could put you in jail even though you technically didn't do anything.

If I were you I'd UPS this guy a box of the sugar you found in the gas tank and write a note saying I know what you did...no return address. Then I'd get two more dogs and leave it at that.