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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    We have a multiple bracelet winner in 2013.

    Davidi Kitai just won his 2nd, after shipping the Pot Limit Holdem tournament.

    Young Dan Kelly (I think he's 23) might be the best NL tournament player out there right now, finished 12th and cashed for the 5th time.

    Wasn't he DJK123 online?

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    Yes, djk123 is Dan Kelly.

    The kid has cashed already 7 times this year with finishes of 5th, 6th, 10th, 12th, and 16th. They aren't all holdem as one was in a HORSE event and he currently is still in the $5k omaha hi/lo which has around 25 players left.

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    Mike Matusow Says He Has Finally Recovered After Full Tilt Poker 'Destroyed My Life'
    Matusow Had A Shot At Second Bracelet Of Summer On Saturday
    by Brian Pempus | Published: Jun 15, 2013 | E-mail Author




    Mike Matusow is having one of the best years of his career, but he doesn’t want to call it a “comeback.” He admitted, however, that his life is finally back in order after the Full Tilt Poker horror, which ended up leaving thousands and thousands of online poker players robbed and Matusow without his dependable source of income. His name was also dragged through mud when it was alleged that he owed the shady site money — a claim he denied. The collapse of the online poker site had also strained his relationships with some in poker.

    The veteran poker pro, made famous during poker’s boom years thanks to his trash talk in televised events, won a World Series of Poker bracelet just last week in a seven-card stud eight-or-better event. On Saturday, Matusow was at the final three tables in event no. 25, the $5,000 Omaha eight-or-better, closing in on a chance at his fifth career bracelet and second of the summer. Winning two in a single Series is a rare feat for any poker professional.

    Matusow said he’s feeling great personally, as the hangover from the Full Tilt scandal has subsided — at least for himself. Players living in the United States are still without a sum of about $159 million. He took some time before the start of play Saturday to chat.

    Brian Pempus: So when I talked to you before your bracelet the other day you said you knew you were going to win. Do you feel the same way deep in this tournament?

    Mike Matusow: I was telling a friend that I felt invincible before I won the stud eight-or-better and knew I was going to win. I don’t have that feeling as I did in that tournament. It also happens to be that I’m not sleeping well, possibly. And also because I finished at such a high at the end of day two in the stud-eight, where here I went the last four hours [of last night] without winning a chip. It’s an opposite effect. What I have to do is get into the mindset that you’re going to win and you’re going to hit cards right away, and go on a rush just like you did in the stud eight-or-better and take the chip lead within the first half hour. I know I am the best Omaha player in the world, and all I have to do is catch some cards early and I’ll be fine.

    BP: Why haven’t you been sleeping well? One would think that after winning a bracelet you would be sleeping like a baby.

    MM: I had a couple days where I really needed a little bit of focus — I take Adderall — and I took a little bit extra, and late at night normally I don’t take it…but last night I was really tired and took [some] about an hour and a half before the night ended. So, I’m up another three hours and the next thing you know…I took Klonopin to go to sleep, and I’d sleep for an hour and then wake back up. I am not worried about the sleep. My adrenaline will get me through.

    BP: Would you consider this your comeback year in some sense?

    MM: You know, the truth of the matter is, I hear “comeback year” and…2010 I won the Florida State Poker Championship, which nobody talks about. I only played like three tournaments that year. 2011, I finished third in the Bay 101 Shooting Star, and last year I played only 13 events and final tabled two and cashed in five. People don’t realize how much I do with the little amount of tournaments I play. The thing is that I haven’t really…even last year I final tabled this tournament. I’ve been consistent. I just haven’t played that many tournaments. Still, this is my fourth tournament here. I played the NBC Heads-Up and one other, and I just happen to be on a little roll where I’m winner, winner…so I’m playing well.

    BP: You had the big prop bet a couple years ago with Ted Forrest, which you lost. Has it sort of been a recovery since that mishap?

    MM: No, the recovery for me was the whole Full Tilt fiasco and realizing I had to work for a living again. After putting so much into your life to where you’re set for life, and now you have to go and grind again. It took me a year to really realize that you have to get back to work and play poker, and realize that you could still do it. You know, I am starting to enjoy it again.

    BP: Was it also tiring to have to talk about it a lot?

    MM: Yeah, I had nothing to do with [the scandal]. All they did was destroy my life. But it’s not destroyed anymore. My life is as good as it gets.

    BP: Would you say you’re the happiest now that you’ve ever been?

    MM: Absolutely.

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    Stay clean and don't do drugs is the only thing I got out of this video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
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    the other guy actually took the chip lead after he doubled through on one hand (cant remember what the matchup was)...but then he kept shipping it in pre on every other hand, finally got called when he shoved with 63o and that was the beginning of his downfall...

    i think its a tremendous strategy...im assuming this guy was an amateur and was going to be outclassed post-flop...it was the 100% right strategy, plus you could totally tell the internet kid was getting pissed off so the strategy was working to perfection...
    Okay, I just went on pokernews to read about it. Blinds are 30k/60k and the this guy Roy Weiss has 3.3mil (55bbs) and Taylor Paur has 2.7 million (45bbs) so the effective stack is 45bbs. That is mega over kill to open ship that much but the guy clearly has no idea how to play heads up. This is after the double up that I'm saying he should adjust but before that when he's around 25-30bbs it's not all bad to ship.

    The strategy is really gambling since a good player will adjust and eventually call it off with a decent hand but the reason the good tournament player hates it is the variance it causes since lets say he calls with AQ and the other guy has J9 then he's not in as dominate of a shape as he would like to be for a majority of the chips.

    I know when I play a lot of HU sngs when I have something like a 2200-800 chip lead at 10/20 blinds nothing frustrates me more when villain just ships open ships 40bbs. It's really bad on their part since they do have a workable stack to come back but they don't feel like they do so it's part of the game I just have to adjust to and take the variance it comes with. If I surrender the chip lead slightly most of the time they go back to normal and hopefully the next time around when the money gets in good I win and they are down much lower then the 800 I mention in this example.
    Really? Thats a great thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Yes, djk123 is Dan Kelly.

    The kid has cashed already 7 times this year with finishes of 5th, 6th, 10th, 12th, and 16th. They aren't all holdem as one was in a HORSE event and he currently is still in the $5k omaha hi/lo which has around 25 players left.

    Every year someone runs like God. Theres very little difference between the top tourny pros, but one year two guys who have the same knowledge could have exact opposite results. Its all about sample size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Yes, djk123 is Dan Kelly.

    The kid has cashed already 7 times this year with finishes of 5th, 6th, 10th, 12th, and 16th. They aren't all holdem as one was in a HORSE event and he currently is still in the $5k omaha hi/lo which has around 25 players left.

    Every year someone runs like God. Theres very little difference between the top tourny pros, but one year two guys who have the same knowledge could have exact opposite results. Its all about sample size.
    True, who knows what he does next year but he is talented.


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    Congrats to Tommyboy, who finished 13th in HORSE.

    Hit some REALLY bad luck on his last hand and busted when he was way ahead.

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    Schneider and this Russian dude are on their second straight HORSE final table.

    Russian dude finished 3rd in the last HORSE and Schneider obviously took it down. They're now 4 handed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    Congrats to Tommyboy, who finished 13th in HORSE.

    Hit some REALLY bad luck on his last hand and busted when he was way ahead.
    Tommyboy is a very good player and always on the verge of blowing up huge in the WSOP, but it seems like he always runs bad at the critical moments and busts before hitting the big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Schneider and this Russian dude are on their second straight HORSE final table.

    Russian dude finished 3rd in the last HORSE and Schneider obviously took it down. They're now 4 handed.
    It's funny, I've played with Tom Schneider a few times, and I wasn't impressed at all. Maybe he's just better at the non-holdem games, but when he was at my table at both limit and NL holdem, he seemed very ordinary. Obviously he's been doing very well at the WSOP for several years now, so there must be something he's doing right.

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    And while most of the focus in these WSOPs ends up on people like Dan Kelly (who is truly a very talented player btw), something that often gets lost is the other side of the coin -- people struggling big time.

    I'm not talking about the amateurs or long-losing "pros" who are expected to struggle.

    I'm talking about successful or semi-successful players whom you'd expect to be kicking ass, but aren't at all.

    Which ones can you name this year?

    The one that comes to mind for me is Vanessa Selbst.

    She has entered a LOT of events so far (including some expensive ones) and has just one $7k cash (60th place) to show for it.

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    Vanessa Selbst plays somewhat reckless. She makes a ton of big moves and huge bluffs that if they work you can accumulate tons of chips to put yourself in a great position to win but if they don't then you will brick off a lot of tournaments in unnecessary spots. This of course is for no limit I have no idea how she does in limit games.

    As for events just from observations here are some things I think the WSOP should add or change:

    Bring on 4 max events:

    $5k NL 4 max
    $5k Limit 4 max
    $5k NL Shootout 4 max
    $5k Limit Shootout 4 max

    Then add these:

    $5k PLO Shootout
    $10k OFC (bigger buyin since this game is catering to highstakes degens that are big on this game right now but not to price some out going bigger).

    Bring back more Stud events since several people are bitching out twitter about why they are gone this year.

    Change the $5k limit event back to $10k as most people willing to play $5k will play it at $10k.

    Now what I can see happening is them getting hungry over the Millionaire Maker so they will do probably 2 to 3 of these next year. I'm sure most players won't have a problem with that as long as they can do something to improve registration lines and they must add more tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    And while most of the focus in these WSOPs ends up on people like Dan Kelly (who is truly a very talented player btw), something that often gets lost is the other side of the coin -- people struggling big time.

    I'm not talking about the amateurs or long-losing "pros" who are expected to struggle.

    I'm talking about successful or semi-successful players whom you'd expect to be kicking ass, but aren't at all.

    Which ones can you name this year?

    The one that comes to mind for me is Vanessa Selbst.

    She has entered a LOT of events so far (including some expensive ones) and has just one $7k cash (60th place) to show for it.
    Jason Mercier has been struggling to my knowledge.

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    Could prob make a list of 99 % of the tourney pros who struggle every year. Charder is another very good player who is struggling this year but again this sample size for one series isn't very big at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Stay clean and don't do drugs is the only thing I got out of this video:


    didnt he get arrested in that russian gambling ring in NYC? is that incorrect or is he out on bond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Stay clean and don't do drugs is the only thing I got out of this video:


    didnt he get arrested in that russian gambling ring in NYC? is that incorrect or is he out on bond?
    Was never totally clear. A Justin Smith was arrested, but obviously that's a very common name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Schneider and this Russian dude are on their second straight HORSE final table.

    Russian dude finished 3rd in the last HORSE and Schneider obviously took it down. They're now 4 handed.
    It's funny, I've played with Tom Schneider a few times, and I wasn't impressed at all. Maybe he's just better at the non-holdem games, but when he was at my table at both limit and NL holdem, he seemed very ordinary. Obviously he's been doing very well at the WSOP for several years now, so there must be something he's doing right.
    He's been pretty boring on the feed.

    Greg Mueller has been hilarious though. One of the most entertaining final tables I've watched.

    http://www.wsop.com/2013/live-video/...aspx?TID=12827

    Edit: Stream over. Schneider won his second bracelet this series and in the same event.
    Last edited by anonamoose; 06-18-2013 at 03:15 PM.

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    pretty impressive to win 2 bracelets in mixed game events in the same series...watched most of the stream from the past couple of days, thought he played pretty well...

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    Who stakes lauren kling? She's down around 200k in the past 2 years at the wsop/

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