Let's talk about what happened...

[Dan Druff]

To everyone else, I appreciate your kind words and enthusiasm for this site.

I am striving to have a fun, informative place where people can feel free to be themselves and speak their minds, while at the same time avoiding the clutter of shock/porn pictures and domination by trolls.

I'm sure there will be some growing pains on the way, as well as some degree of technical failure (I'm still seeing some server errors, for example).

My motivations for this project are exactly what I wrote a few weeks ago: My primary reason for opening this site is that I want a consolidated place on the web where people can talk about shady things happening in poker, and where visitors can find all of these stories in one place. My secondary reason is to provide a community where people can get together and talk about whatever.

I'm not interested in flaunting e-power, fighting with trolls, or promoting myself. I'm 40 years old with a young child, and really don't have time for bullshit anymore. I look forward to seeing this site grow, and seeing what it can become.

[Team Razor]

Razor, you started off well here, but I'm honestly getting tired of your trolling.

This is exactly what I don't want.

If people have a legitimate beef with one another, I don't mind letting it play out, even if it involves some insults and fighting back and forth.

But now you're just randomly dropping crap like this on people you barely know, in addition to trolling me with a bunch of nasty lies in another thread.

You actually got off to a good start here and posted some quality messages, but if ruining this site with constant negativity is your plan here, I'd really prefer you do it elsewhere.

It'll be up to you what ends up happening.

Honestly Todd, the guy posts that he is upset Micon never spelled his name right? That is not a noosable offence? Come on. Toughen the fuck up.

I will be a mixture of content, commentary and trolling. I knew as soon as I posted the Autism picture I would be on a slippery slope.

It's up to you if you get your panties in a twist over it.

[Suicide King]

take it easy Druff. Razor gonna Razor.

[shortbuspoker]

take it easy Druff. Razor gonna Razor.

Druff has a point dude. Razor has 33 posts so far and there is a some of it is trolling aimed at Druff, which one should know better than to try on Druff's forum since he has already said that it is not uncensored here. Case in point:

Fuck off lockman, seriously. How can you possibly suggest he was a good dad when he spent the first four months of Benjamin's existence arguing with idiots on a shitpile of an online poker forum?

Don't worry, there's lots of faggotry here also. After all, most of the members from DD who couldn't form a coherent thought, let alone a sentence, are here. They're bringing all their petty bullshit...

Fuck off Mike you insane idiot.

The thing is Todd you are an autistic weirdo who is arrogant and has very poor social skills and grace. It's difficult not to troll you. I mean I am happy to be called a fat...

Overdose immediatly

[Team Razor]

The second quote was not me, it was some other faggot.

[Vwls]

take it easy Druff. Razor gonna Razor.

Druff has a point dude. Razor has 33 posts so far and there is a some of it is trolling aimed at Druff, which one should know better than to try on Druff's forum since he has already said that it is not uncensored here. Case in point:

Fuck off lockman, seriously. How can you possibly suggest he was a good dad when he spent the first four months of Benjamin's existence arguing with idiots on a shitpile of an online poker forum?

Fuck off Mike you insane idiot.

The thing is Todd you are an autistic weirdo who is arrogant and has very poor social skills and grace. It's difficult not to troll you. I mean I am happy to be called a fat...

Overdose immediatly

I have a great Razor Being Razor Photoshop coming.

But seriously - although mean as they come, Razor is funny. You need a Razor in every forum imo, or things just get boring and sticky sweet with everyone kissing each other's asses.

[JMM]

take it easy Druff. Razor gonna Razor.

Druff has a point dude. Razor has 33 posts so far and there is a some of it is trolling aimed at Druff, which one should know better than to try on Druff's forum since he has already said that it is not uncensored here. Case in point:

Fuck off lockman, seriously. How can you possibly suggest he was a good dad when he spent the first four months of Benjamin's existence arguing with idiots on a shitpile of an online poker forum?

Fuck off Mike you insane idiot.

The thing is Todd you are an autistic weirdo who is arrogant and has very poor social skills and grace. It's difficult not to troll you. I mean I am happy to be called a fat...

Overdose immediatly

You need a Razor in every forum imo, or things just get boring and sticky sweet with everyone kissing each other's asses.

Absolutely. Razor is a fat, funny, son of a bitch. Razor stays, imo.

[Dan Druff]

Razor, you started off well here, but I'm honestly getting tired of your trolling.

This is exactly what I don't want.

If people have a legitimate beef with one another, I don't mind letting it play out, even if it involves some insults and fighting back and forth.

But now you're just randomly dropping crap like this on people you barely know, in addition to trolling me with a bunch of nasty lies in another thread.

You actually got off to a good start here and posted some quality messages, but if ruining this site with constant negativity is your plan here, I'd really prefer you do it elsewhere.

It'll be up to you what ends up happening.

Honestly Todd, the guy posts that he is upset Micon never spelled his name right? That is not a noosable offence? Come on. Toughen the fuck up.

I will be a mixture of content, commentary and trolling. I knew as soon as I posted the Autism picture I would be on a slippery slope.

It's up to you if you get your panties in a twist over it.

His complaint wasn't about Micon's spelling. He was just providing that as an example to make his bigger point.

You aren't on a slippery slope because you posted some stupid photoshop. You are potentially heading to ban-country because I'm seeing you bringing a tone to this forum that I don't like, and I'm seeing it over multiple posts to multiple people.

Let's take your thread about MWH, for example.

You asked me why he was banned.

I knew that you already knew the answer, and were just asking to troll me, but I gave you a respectful, detailed answer anyway.

You responded by calling me an autistic social reject, and then went on to accuse me of ignoring my son as an infant so I could fight with internet trolls.

I didn't start this forum to deal with this sort of crap. I don't want to see it, and I don't think most of the users want to see it, nor do they want to feel like you'll jump down their throat every time they write something you feel is insult-worthy.

I'm not going to let this forum become garbage, dominated by a few idiots hungry for attention. If it means I have to send a few people packing to achieve this vision, so be it.

[Dan Druff]

take it easy Druff. Razor gonna Razor.

You need a Razor in every forum imo, or things just get boring and sticky sweet with everyone kissing each other's asses.

Absolutely. Razor is a fat, funny, son of a bitch. Razor stays, imo.

It's up to Razor if he stays.

He doesn't need to be an asskisser, but if his purpose here mainly centers around trolling me and "outsiders", I don't want him here.

[Team Razor]

Razor, you started off well here, but I'm honestly getting tired of your trolling.

This is exactly what I don't want.

If people have a legitimate beef with one another, I don't mind letting it play out, even if it involves some insults and fighting back and forth.

But now you're just randomly dropping crap like this on people you barely know, in addition to trolling me with a bunch of nasty lies in another thread.

You actually got off to a good start here and posted some quality messages, but if ruining this site with constant negativity is your plan here, I'd really prefer you do it elsewhere.

It'll be up to you what ends up happening.

Honestly Todd, the guy posts that he is upset Micon never spelled his name right? That is not a noosable offence? Come on. Toughen the fuck up.

I will be a mixture of content, commentary and trolling. I knew as soon as I posted the Autism picture I would be on a slippery slope.

It's up to you if you get your panties in a twist over it.

His complaint wasn't about Micon's spelling. He was just providing that as an example to make his bigger point.

You aren't on a slippery slope because you posted some stupid photoshop. You are potentially heading to ban-country because I'm seeing you bringing a tone to this forum that I don't like, and I'm seeing it over multiple posts to multiple people.

Let's take your thread about MWH, for example.

You asked me why he was banned.

I knew that you already knew the answer, and were just asking to troll me, but I gave you a respectful, detailed answer anyway.

You responded by calling me an autistic social reject, and then went on to accuse me of ignoring my son as an infant so I could fight with internet trolls.

I didn't start this forum to deal with this sort of crap. I don't want to see it, and I don't think most of the users want to see it, nor do they want to feel like you'll jump down their throat every time they write something you feel is insult-worthy.

I'm not going to let this forum become garbage, dominated by a few idiots hungry for attention. If it means I have to send a few people packing to achieve this vision, so be it.

The reason this place exists at all is because NWP existed. Otherwise you (Todd Witteles) would be just another opinion on 2plus2. You can't hide from that fact. This forum and your entire reputation was built from forums filled with degenerates, hate, spite, humour, rollings and scams. Everyone who has tried to build their own forums subsequently has failed because its either too much of a circle jerk (due to the owner) or filled with too many weirdo catastrophes who make stupid posts.

DD/NWP worked because it had a balance of people with opinions and vicious trolls. Its what keeps a forum healthy. Think about it before you start wielding the Hebrew hammer again.

[DropKick]

In my experience people like Razor only change their ways after feeling the full force of the iron fist, good luck in dealing with these troublemakers Druff.

[Dan Druff]

Razor, you started off well here, but I'm honestly getting tired of your trolling.

This is exactly what I don't want.

If people have a legitimate beef with one another, I don't mind letting it play out, even if it involves some insults and fighting back and forth.

But now you're just randomly dropping crap like this on people you barely know, in addition to trolling me with a bunch of nasty lies in another thread.

You actually got off to a good start here and posted some quality messages, but if ruining this site with constant negativity is your plan here, I'd really prefer you do it elsewhere.

It'll be up to you what ends up happening.

Honestly Todd, the guy posts that he is upset Micon never spelled his name right? That is not a noosable offence? Come on. Toughen the fuck up.

I will be a mixture of content, commentary and trolling. I knew as soon as I posted the Autism picture I would be on a slippery slope.

It's up to you if you get your panties in a twist over it.

His complaint wasn't about Micon's spelling. He was just providing that as an example to make his bigger point.

You aren't on a slippery slope because you posted some stupid photoshop. You are potentially heading to ban-country because I'm seeing you bringing a tone to this forum that I don't like, and I'm seeing it over multiple posts to multiple people.

Let's take your thread about MWH, for example.

You asked me why he was banned.

I knew that you already knew the answer, and were just asking to troll me, but I gave you a respectful, detailed answer anyway.

You responded by calling me an autistic social reject, and then went on to accuse me of ignoring my son as an infant so I could fight with internet trolls.

I didn't start this forum to deal with this sort of crap. I don't want to see it, and I don't think most of the users want to see it, nor do they want to feel like you'll jump down their throat every time they write something you feel is insult-worthy.

I'm not going to let this forum become garbage, dominated by a few idiots hungry for attention. If it means I have to send a few people packing to achieve this vision, so be it.

The reason this place exists at all is because NWP existed. Otherwise you (Todd Witteles) would be just another opinion on 2plus2. You can't hide from that fact. This forum and your entire reputation was built from forums filled with degenerates, hate, spite, humour, rollings and scams. Everyone who has tried to build their own forums subsequently has failed because its either too much of a circle jerk (due to the owner) or filled with too many weirdo catastrophes who make stupid posts.

DD/NWP worked because it had a balance of people with opinions and vicious trolls. Its what keeps a forum healthy. Think about it before you start wielding the Hebrew hammer again.

Stuart, just try to show some respect for this forum and what I'm trying to do here, realize that this isn't an attempt to clone NWP/DD, and everything will be okay.

[tyde]

Stuart, just try to show some respect for this forum and what I'm trying to do here, realize that this isn't an attempt to clone NWP/DD, and everything will be okay.

good luck with Razor on that one Todd

[Team Razor]

Stuart, just try to show some respect for this forum and what I'm trying to do here, realize that this isn't an attempt to clone NWP/DD, and everything will be okay.

good luck with Razor on that one Todd

Druff take advice from Dr Pockle on running a forum. He was so good at it he made 3 of them.

[tyde]

at least I'm trying to create and taking a few shots and not just criticizing and complaining from the bleacher seats

and Stuart, not sure where the '3rd' forum is because I've only had 2

the first was hacked and damaged beyond repair, and the second one was pulled down intentionally. largely because of people like yourself, and because it is not worth the headaches and micro-managing melodramas and babysitting people (like yourself) who only seem to register accounts on these forums to be disruptive and intentionally post offensive material.

Your whole schtick is just to be a pain in the ass, and you rarely post anything word reading anymore. Sorry that's the way I see it Stuart. Once in a while you are amusing, but the quality of your content overall is fucking weak.

I'll be shocked if Druff doesn't ban you in the next few weeks (or sooner)

[Baron Von Strucker]

Druff and I had our run-ins at DD also, but the way he was treated at the end of this NWP/DD tenure was reprehensible and unthinkable. Micon pretty much lost me there, but the absolute final nail in the coffin was Brandons nude pic being posted.

I got over Micon not responding to me in threads..........EVER.

I forgave him for hardly posting......EVER.

I didnt let my feeling get hurt when after years of lurking,and a couple years of posting, I beat Micon HU in the DD tourney....yet got no shout out, because he was too stoned/stupid to prounounce my SN.

"congrats to the winner, Opieman....er....man.....whatever!"

This exemplifies how Micon feels about his users, and how much he cares.......well, at least, how he feels about the everyday non vegas resident users that have nothing to offer him. You will be lucky if he will take the time and effort to read your screen name.....even when you have just beaten him HU after hours of play!

I just can't stand by him or support DD anymore. After years of wanting some DD gear (without ever getting any) I would no longer even consider sporting it. I think Micons still a bit of a punkass kid, and some lessons in life are hard-learned.......and some people just have to learn things the hard way.

Its sad that Micon is so hard-headed because his lesson cost him some friendships, and hurt his business. It cost all of us a unique and loved online community, and personally......cost me my online home.

While I am not one of those faggots that are gonna swear allegiance, and go threaten to leave DD in a post there (so pointless obv) you will notice that OderintDumMetuant hardly ever posts at DD anymore. That's because I have found my new online home here at PFA.com.

Opiemanwhatever out.[/QUOTE]


Well fuck a duck

When you sling sum mud expect some to be coming back at you

I will try to Cotten coat this and roll it in sum sugger so I don't get spanked

But truly a noose for this snivling post is minimum that it deserves

Dudes nose is out of joint because someone can't pronounce his retarded screen name. Really what did you think would happen when you made the fucking thing up. You accuse Micon to be stoned is the reason that he couldent say it, well this may or may not be true, I would think you are on something for writing such shit. I would also say that you neglected to say that Brandon was often on booze or perscriotion drugs as he had no problem to brag about it. I would have to say druff may be on something as well sugger for sure!
Also I am pretty sure that Drexel and Druff have ignored posts and pm requesting there input. Congrats to the winer of the free role pat your self on the back for beating Micon head up in a free tourney while he is trying to host a radio show, try it live see how you do buddy. If you let shit like this bother you I would say you have a bigger problem than indicated here maby you should up your dosage.



Ps Druff can we have some kind of a base ball system here like 3 strikes and maybe one ball and your out
The US government uses it so might be worth a try

Sory for insults and bad words.

[HEX]

Wow, Todd is gonna fuck this whole place up. Threatening to ban Razor for so little is a terrible but unsurprising sign.

[XteraveX]

i don't think he threatened... i think he said he "preferred....".......but anyway i still wonder if i can use that awesome avatar of shoenfeld getting it on

[Helmet]

Wow, Todd is gonna fuck this whole place up. Threatening to ban Razor for so little is a terrible but unsurprising sign.

He should have already been banned. He's nothing but a fat worthless fuck.

Don't stress Todd. I'm here to protect you.

[Team Razor]

Wow, Todd is gonna fuck this whole place up. Threatening to ban Razor for so little is a terrible but unsurprising sign.

He should have already been banned. He's nothing but a fat worthless fuck.

Don't stress Todd. I'm here to protect you.

Another fucking nobody from DD who posts under a new name to hide from getting skull fucked by me.

Untill you post under your proper name I won't even oblige you with a response.