Let's talk about what happened...

[tyde]

[Bootsy Collins]

The way Druff was treated at the end of his DD run was totally reprehensible. The only reason to stay at DD was to wait for an appropriate replacement, which is what we have here.

I could not be happier to see the strong start this place has had. Todd gives a fuck about stuff, does what he says, and says what he means. I'll support this place any way I can.

I do have to say that Crowe has always been one of my favorite posters and a great guy to talk to.

[Muck Ficon]

one of these days I'm gonna sit down with a case of Beam and hammer out about 50,000 words on this fucking abortion

You do that every night Marty.

[Fergie72]

The way Druff was treated at the end of his DD run was totally reprehensible. The only reason to stay at DD was to wait for an appropriate replacement, which is what we have here.

I could not be happier to see the strong start this place has had. Todd gives a fuck about stuff, does what he says, and says what he means. I'll support this place any way I can.

My sentiments exactly.

[Baron Von Strucker]

Welcome Bootsy - I am a big fan of your avatar's namesake. Flashlight is still one of the greatest songs ever made.

Thanks. One question that I have is what is your opinion on the Drexel/Micon fallout. Who do you believe more in the he said he said bullshit?

Honestly Bootsy I don't know what happened, and I am still not sure of Drexel's role in the excommunication of Druff. What I will say is that is you bring someone into your forum management family, entrust them with the livelihood / success of your business - more - make them an integral piece of the character of your online presence - you better be willing to work your ass off to fix things if they go awry. If you flagrantly toss them away when you disagree, you are an asshole. Plain and simple. No business sense. Treat the people you build your forum with like they are your brothers. Or get the fuck out.

I don't really think Drexel did mean anything malicious to Druff. I believe he was backing up someone who he thought was his best friend.
I honestly think from meeting Micon and Drexel in person is that Micon has indeed snapped from living in Las Vegas. It is pretty much known that Micon did refuse to give me a DonkDown hat even when I tried paying for it. What I will say and hasn't been said yet but Bryan Micon was following Allen Kessler like an asian housewife hitting the slots. Micon thinks that he can become like Allen Kessler even though he lacks the discipline and money management as we came to find out. Honestly I do think that Bryan is an intelligent person but his vices have completely caught up with him and he is oblivious that he is hurting himself and his loved ones. He is an addict straight up.

Maby he took one look at you and thought that putting a donk down hat on you would be like putting a Trojan magnum on a squirle dick. Real lot of guessing going on here from people who admittedly have no fucking clue, but carry on its so fucking funny. Drexel is a bonafied angel sent from the best part of heaven
Really just ask Bootsy he met him once for a few munites. You really have a lot of nuts stuffed in your mouth right now.

[tyde]

Maby he took one look at you and thought that putting a donk down hat on you would be like putting a Trojan magnum on a squirle dick. Real lot of guessing going on here from people who admittedly have no fucking clue, but carry on its so fucking funny. Drexel is a bonafied angel sent from the best part of heaven
Really just ask Bootsy he met him once for a few munites. You really have a lot of nuts stuffed in your mouth right now.

lol trojan magnum on a squirrel dick lmaooooo

baron von strucker for root admin imo

[devidee]

There was a small window of time when NWP was great ('05 - '06). I don't ever see any forum recreating it.

[Detroit]

From the old days when I used to laugh till my sides hurt posting on NWP, through the latter DonkDown / splintered forums age, Dan Druff has not always been a good friend to me. However, I don't think anyone here can argue that he was not an integral part of the forum life we all knew and enjoyed. He was the yin to Micon's yang - the balance and the brains. Whatever transpired between us personally, from the time my personal photos were hacked and posted on NWP and the management decision was to let them stay, to the poorly handled firing of FckVwls from NWP (and my even less professional reaction).... to the efforts of Druff to denounce me publicly for failing to be responsible about paying a debt I owed to his good friend.... there were rocky waters and hurt feelings all round to be sure. But never, throughout any of it, would I have imagined an NWP/DonkDown without Todd Witteles.

Say what you will about Druff - and I've heard all the arguments - the guy is a forum legend, one hell of an intelligent person, and a fantastic poster. His incessant arguing is what makes him unforgettable. His insight and well-thought-out, well-written BS engender a serious, if at times exasperating, balance to the brutal constancy of silliness and filth on these forums.

I'm posting this today to go public with how I feel.

Many of you know that I am a huge Howard Stern fan. One thing I'll say about Howard - he never fires anyone. He never burns bridges with his people. The folks he built his empire with are *family*, and even when they fuck up, piss him off, or completely lose their composure, they remain. This is how I operate as well, and why I was completely outraged when DonkDown decided to part ways with Druff. It smacked of complete disregard not only for family bonds, but for the culture of the site itself. The survival of the site. DonkDown has been dead to me since this occurred.

Now I realize it's a small loss in the general market of poker forums, as the age of the poker forum is pretty much dead anyway. But it is still a loss, and a misdeed. It is wrong, and cannot be ignored.

How many of you agree with this, and are posting here out of allegiance to a standard of blood being thicker than water - an understanding of that certain nuance that made NWP great? How many of you are ready to contribute what you can to make this place entertaining? Or are you just here to play that same old tired song, trolling Druff and tossing used-up insults into the ring?

did you ever make things right with icfishies?

[son of lockman]

From the old days when I used to laugh till my sides hurt posting on NWP, through the latter DonkDown / splintered forums age, Dan Druff has not always been a good friend to me. However, I don't think anyone here can argue that he was not an integral part of the forum life we all knew and enjoyed. He was the yin to Micon's yang - the balance and the brains. Whatever transpired between us personally, from the time my personal photos were hacked and posted on NWP and the management decision was to let them stay, to the poorly handled firing of FckVwls from NWP (and my even less professional reaction).... to the efforts of Druff to denounce me publicly for failing to be responsible about paying a debt I owed to his good friend.... there were rocky waters and hurt feelings all round to be sure. But never, throughout any of it, would I have imagined an NWP/DonkDown without Todd Witteles.

Say what you will about Druff - and I've heard all the arguments - the guy is a forum legend, one hell of an intelligent person, and a fantastic poster. His incessant arguing is what makes him unforgettable. His insight and well-thought-out, well-written BS engender a serious, if at times exasperating, balance to the brutal constancy of silliness and filth on these forums.

I'm posting this today to go public with how I feel.

Many of you know that I am a huge Howard Stern fan. One thing I'll say about Howard - he never fires anyone. He never burns bridges with his people. The folks he built his empire with are *family*, and even when they fuck up, piss him off, or completely lose their composure, they remain. This is how I operate as well, and why I was completely outraged when DonkDown decided to part ways with Druff. It smacked of complete disregard not only for family bonds, but for the culture of the site itself. The survival of the site. DonkDown has been dead to me since this occurred.

Now I realize it's a small loss in the general market of poker forums, as the age of the poker forum is pretty much dead anyway. But it is still a loss, and a misdeed. It is wrong, and cannot be ignored.

How many of you agree with this, and are posting here out of allegiance to a standard of blood being thicker than water - an understanding of that certain nuance that made NWP great? How many of you are ready to contribute what you can to make this place entertaining? Or are you just here to play that same old tired song, trolling Druff and tossing used-up insults into the ring?

good post...

[Team Razor]

There was a small window of time when NWP was great ('05 - '06). I don't ever see any forum recreating it.

Disagree. The first week of the carter was the greatest spell in NWP history. I think that was like 09?

[devidee]

Disagree. The first week of the carter was the greatest spell in NWP history. I think that was like 09?

Pretty sure I was on my boris78 sabbatical during that time. That was a good time for me though. That was back when phantom and I would hella cam together.

[Deal]

Disagree. The first week of the carter was the greatest spell in NWP history. I think that was like 09?

Pretty sure I was on my boris78 sabbatical during that time. That was a good time for me though. That was back when phantom and Martha would hella cam together.

FYP

[Ricky]

From the old days when I used to laugh till my sides hurt posting on NWP, through the latter DonkDown / splintered forums age, Dan Druff has not always been a good friend to me. However, I don't think anyone here can argue that he was not an integral part of the forum life we all knew and enjoyed. He was the yin to Micon's yang - the balance and the brains. Whatever transpired between us personally, from the time my personal photos were hacked and posted on NWP and the management decision was to let them stay, to the poorly handled firing of FckVwls from NWP (and my even less professional reaction).... to the efforts of Druff to denounce me publicly for failing to be responsible about paying a debt I owed to his good friend.... there were rocky waters and hurt feelings all round to be sure. But never, throughout any of it, would I have imagined an NWP/DonkDown without Todd Witteles.

Say what you will about Druff - and I've heard all the arguments - the guy is a forum legend, one hell of an intelligent person, and a fantastic poster. His incessant arguing is what makes him unforgettable. His insight and well-thought-out, well-written BS engender a serious, if at times exasperating, balance to the brutal constancy of silliness and filth on these forums.

I'm posting this today to go public with how I feel.

Many of you know that I am a huge Howard Stern fan. One thing I'll say about Howard - he never fires anyone. He never burns bridges with his people. The folks he built his empire with are *family*, and even when they fuck up, piss him off, or completely lose their composure, they remain. This is how I operate as well, and why I was completely outraged when DonkDown decided to part ways with Druff. It smacked of complete disregard not only for family bonds, but for the culture of the site itself. The survival of the site. DonkDown has been dead to me since this occurred.

Now I realize it's a small loss in the general market of poker forums, as the age of the poker forum is pretty much dead anyway. But it is still a loss, and a misdeed. It is wrong, and cannot be ignored.

How many of you agree with this, and are posting here out of allegiance to a standard of blood being thicker than water - an understanding of that certain nuance that made NWP great? How many of you are ready to contribute what you can to make this place entertaining? Or are you just here to play that same old tired song, trolling Druff and tossing used-up insults into the ring?

Excellent post.


Druff and I had our run-ins at DD also, but the way he was treated at the end of this NWP/DD tenure was reprehensible and unthinkable. Micon pretty much lost me there, but the absolute final nail in the coffin was Brandons nude pic being posted.

I got over Micon not responding to me in threads..........EVER.

I forgave him for hardly posting......EVER.

I didnt let my feeling get hurt when after years of lurking,and a couple years of posting, I beat Micon HU in the DD tourney....yet got no shout out, because he was too stoned/stupid to prounounce my SN.

"congrats to the winner, Opieman....er....man.....whatever!"

This exemplifies how Micon feels about his users, and how much he cares.......well, at least, how he feels about the everyday non vegas resident users that have nothing to offer him. You will be lucky if he will take the time and effort to read your screen name.....even when you have just beaten him HU after hours of play!

I just can't stand by him or support DD anymore. After years of wanting some DD gear (without ever getting any) I would no longer even consider sporting it. I think Micons still a bit of a punkass kid, and some lessons in life are hard-learned.......and some people just have to learn things the hard way.

Its sad that Micon is so hard-headed because his lesson cost him some friendships, and hurt his business. It cost all of us a unique and loved online community, and personally......cost me my online home.

While I am not one of those faggots that are gonna swear allegiance, and go threaten to leave DD in a post there (so pointless obv) you will notice that OderintDumMetuant hardly ever posts at DD anymore. That's because I have found my new online home here at PFA.com.

Opiemanwhatever out.

[Vwls]

In all fairness man, OderintDumMetuant is fucking impossible to pronounce - even when sober.

[shortbuspoker]

The way Druff was treated at the end of his DD run was totally reprehensible. The only reason to stay at DD was to wait for an appropriate replacement, which is what we have here.

I could not be happier to see the strong start this place has had. Todd gives a fuck about stuff, does what he says, and says what he means. I'll support this place any way I can.

I will always be a fan of Todd if for no other reason the fact that he PAID to send me a free Donkdown hat. The same cannot be said for Micon who takes every possible chance to whore himself out and hawk dd and even Hollywood Dave's old UB shit on ebay. I am ambivalent towards Drexel since I don't know too much about him, but I find it commendable that he would come to the aid of most any DD member that he felt had been wronged.

[Ricky]

In all fairness man, OderintDumMetuant is fucking impossible to pronounce - even when sober.

Agreed, but Brandon ALWAYS got it right, just by shortening it to ODM, or Oder, or Oderint. And that poor excuse is really grasping for straws for Micon IMO. He simply didnt care enough to read it. It either hurt his ego because I won, or he is simply to lazy to recognize the winner of his own radio tourney.

I did get tired of typing ODM out to log in though lol.........


Ricky it is!

[JMM]

From the old days when I used to laugh till my sides hurt posting on NWP, through the latter DonkDown / splintered forums age, Dan Druff has not always been a good friend to me. However, I don't think anyone here can argue that he was not an integral part of the forum life we all knew and enjoyed. He was the yin to Micon's yang - the balance and the brains. Whatever transpired between us personally, from the time my personal photos were hacked and posted on NWP and the management decision was to let them stay, to the poorly handled firing of FckVwls from NWP (and my even less professional reaction).... to the efforts of Druff to denounce me publicly for failing to be responsible about paying a debt I owed to his good friend.... there were rocky waters and hurt feelings all round to be sure. But never, throughout any of it, would I have imagined an NWP/DonkDown without Todd Witteles.

Say what you will about Druff - and I've heard all the arguments - the guy is a forum legend, one hell of an intelligent person, and a fantastic poster. His incessant arguing is what makes him unforgettable. His insight and well-thought-out, well-written BS engender a serious, if at times exasperating, balance to the brutal constancy of silliness and filth on these forums.

I'm posting this today to go public with how I feel.

Many of you know that I am a huge Howard Stern fan. One thing I'll say about Howard - he never fires anyone. He never burns bridges with his people. The folks he built his empire with are *family*, and even when they fuck up, piss him off, or completely lose their composure, they remain. This is how I operate as well, and why I was completely outraged when DonkDown decided to part ways with Druff. It smacked of complete disregard not only for family bonds, but for the culture of the site itself. The survival of the site. DonkDown has been dead to me since this occurred.

Now I realize it's a small loss in the general market of poker forums, as the age of the poker forum is pretty much dead anyway. But it is still a loss, and a misdeed. It is wrong, and cannot be ignored.

How many of you agree with this, and are posting here out of allegiance to a standard of blood being thicker than water - an understanding of that certain nuance that made NWP great? How many of you are ready to contribute what you can to make this place entertaining? Or are you just here to play that same old tired song, trolling Druff and tossing used-up insults into the ring?

Excellent post.


Druff and I had our run-ins at DD also, but the way he was treated at the end of this NWP/DD tenure was reprehensible and unthinkable. Micon pretty much lost me there, but the absolute final nail in the coffin was Brandons nude pic being posted.

I got over Micon not responding to me in threads..........EVER.

I forgave him for hardly posting......EVER.

I didnt let my feeling get hurt when after years of lurking,and a couple years of posting, I beat Micon HU in the DD tourney....yet got no shout out, because he was too stoned/stupid to prounounce my SN.

"congrats to the winner, Opieman....er....man.....whatever!"

This exemplifies how Micon feels about his users, and how much he cares.......well, at least, how he feels about the everyday non vegas resident users that have nothing to offer him. You will be lucky if he will take the time and effort to read your screen name.....even when you have just beaten him HU after hours of play!

I just can't stand by him or support DD anymore. After years of wanting some DD gear (without ever getting any) I would no longer even consider sporting it. I think Micons still a bit of a punkass kid, and some lessons in life are hard-learned.......and some people just have to learn things the hard way.

Its sad that Micon is so hard-headed because his lesson cost him some friendships, and hurt his business. It cost all of us a unique and loved online community, and personally......cost me my online home.

While I am not one of those faggots that are gonna swear allegiance, and go threaten to leave DD in a post there (so pointless obv) you will notice that OderintDumMetuant hardly ever posts at DD anymore. That's because I have found my new online home here at PFA.com.

Opiemanwhatever out.

A simple "fuck micon" would have worked just as well.

[Team Razor]

In all fairness man, OderintDumMetuant is fucking impossible to pronounce - even when sober.

Agreed, but Brandon ALWAYS got it right, just by shortening it to ODM, or Oder, or Oderint. And that poor excuse is really grasping for straws for Micon IMO. He simply didnt care enough to read it. It either hurt his ego because I won, or he is simply to lazy to recognize the winner of his own radio tourney.

I did get tired of typing ODM out to log in though lol.........


Ricky it is!

You notice stuff like this?
Get a fucking life you loser.

[shortbuspoker]

In all fairness man, OderintDumMetuant is fucking impossible to pronounce - even when sober.

Agreed, but Brandon ALWAYS got it right, just by shortening it to ODM, or Oder, or Oderint. And that poor excuse is really grasping for straws for Micon IMO. He simply didnt care enough to read it. It either hurt his ego because I won, or he is simply to lazy to recognize the winner of his own radio tourney.

I did get tired of typing ODM out to log in though lol.........


Ricky it is!

You're call in to Zod's final show was epic man.

[Dan Druff]

In all fairness man, OderintDumMetuant is fucking impossible to pronounce - even when sober.

Agreed, but Brandon ALWAYS got it right, just by shortening it to ODM, or Oder, or Oderint. And that poor excuse is really grasping for straws for Micon IMO. He simply didnt care enough to read it. It either hurt his ego because I won, or he is simply to lazy to recognize the winner of his own radio tourney.

I did get tired of typing ODM out to log in though lol.........


Ricky it is!

You notice stuff like this?
Get a fucking life you loser.

Razor, you started off well here, but I'm honestly getting tired of your trolling.

This is exactly what I don't want.

If people have a legitimate beef with one another, I don't mind letting it play out, even if it involves some insults and fighting back and forth.

But now you're just randomly dropping crap like this on people you barely know, in addition to trolling me with a bunch of nasty lies in another thread.

You actually got off to a good start here and posted some quality messages, but if ruining this site with constant negativity is your plan here, I'd really prefer you do it elsewhere.

It'll be up to you what ends up happening.