Merge Network

[Jasep]

i started the thread rofl so you really do need to work on you reading comprehension.

second, yes their is a serious flaw on merge, i dont care how long its been since sites had these issues or when you last heard of it, but i keep trying to explain to you that the issue isnt whether or not this is possible, its what merge needs to do about it. its ridiculous how your coming at me by the way and i dont appreciate your tone and insinuations that i'm trying to make merge look bad. again, I GRIND ON HERE EVERYDAY AND YES, I LIVE IN AMERICA SO ITS MY ONLY OPTION BESIDES BOVADA AND YES, I CONTINUE TO PLAY ON HERE DESPITE MY FEELINGS ABOUT THE GENERAL LACK OF SECURITY BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY OPTION THATS WORTH MY TIME AT ALL.

if you want to argue with me, please just PM me because i made this thread to get help fixing these problems not argue with people who have nothing better to do.

In all fairness you are making pretty outlandish accusations without actually ever giving any proof. Anyone can say whatever they want, but in order for the claim to hold any water you should produce something. Just saying what you heard isn't good enough, if it can be done than do it, take a picture of it and then you will have much more credibility in your claims

[Deal]

Druff, FatalError posted a link to this page in the 2+2 Lock thread (the one about lock ops closing) Well, the associated page on the other server which now redirects to the home page.... regardless Shane replied with this:

Just for clarification the numbers were completely fine and underneath our initial proposal which was originally approved. The published guaranteed amount was our 'safe' number.

So is he lying or is your source wrong?

[PokerPrince2]

I am from the same hometown as one of their pros and I posted asking why tourny was cancelled and if money was safe. This was the response I got

Merge originally approved of LOCKOPS and then made us cancel it after the schedule after we had already released the schedule & promotions, which is pretty ridiculous. I'm pretty sure it was because the other skins on the Merge network threw a fit This has nothing to do with money being safe on Lock. Nothing has changed & people need to stop with the Lock shutdown rumors. From our owner:

Funds are protected and segregated. That is why we are able to do so many withdrawals.

Best,

Jennifer

[jsearles22]

[QUOTE=ktx49;11943]its not speculation, as I said, there were reputable people who were gonna sign up on lock and use another computer/laptop to play the lock ops while they grinded their normal schedules on another, non-Lock, skin.[QUOTE]


LOL at this being your proof. "I heard someone else was GONNA try it!" Seriously?

[ktx49]

just because you guys dont personally understand that the we are already way past that part of the issue(whether its even possible; we already know it is), doesnt mean I need to provide proof. how about doing a little research of your own if you dont believe me?

anyways i thought you guys might like to read this thread, especially the last few days worth:

http://www.pocketfives.com/f10017/me...t-read-658544/

so ya....

[ktx49]

here this is from today on P5s as well if you want more proof:

ol in response to stepinggrazor , your light years behind the merge way then. You can have an account on EVERY merge skin except pdc and carbon. etc..... this thread is turning out to be barely helpful as certain ppl arent understanding what happend. Hearing someone quote ''multiaccounting'' in this thread of mine makes me think this is my last post on this thread. Last piece of info im giving away as I dont want to hurt peoples incomes, with all your screen names having the same account info on file at each skin , you can ABSOLUTELY sign in to play the same mtt with all 5 of your names. Now if you do this from the same ip , or diff for that matter , I would imagine your risking getting in trouble. But can u physically do this? ummm yes lol DO I DO IT? no I have 1 name on carbon and another on hero. I wake up in the morning and play on either one. mostly carbon. But dumping from that skin to the next to MYSELF is what is in question. Multiaccounting on merge is........ lets just leave that topic alone , but I have never multiaccounted in my life , nor do i say this because I think you are accusing me but want ppl to be more clear on how merge operates as it is night and day from stars or tilt. It is more on the levels of ub and ap regarding security and modernizing the skin. This thread was posted for real feedback regarding realistic opinions and realistic experiences on the topic of CHIP DUMPING TO YOURSELF FROM ONE SKIN TO THE NEXT . pls focus on the subject at matter , not multiaccounting. thanks again all

when will i see an apology?

[Jasep]

here this is from today on P5s as well if you want more proof:

ol in response to stepinggrazor , your light years behind the merge way then. You can have an account on EVERY merge skin except pdc and carbon. etc..... this thread is turning out to be barely helpful as certain ppl arent understanding what happend. Hearing someone quote ''multiaccounting'' in this thread of mine makes me think this is my last post on this thread. Last piece of info im giving away as I dont want to hurt peoples incomes, with all your screen names having the same account info on file at each skin , you can ABSOLUTELY sign in to play the same mtt with all 5 of your names. Now if you do this from the same ip , or diff for that matter , I would imagine your risking getting in trouble. But can u physically do this? ummm yes lol DO I DO IT? no I have 1 name on carbon and another on hero. I wake up in the morning and play on either one. mostly carbon. But dumping from that skin to the next to MYSELF is what is in question. Multiaccounting on merge is........ lets just leave that topic alone , but I have never multiaccounted in my life , nor do i say this because I think you are accusing me but want ppl to be more clear on how merge operates as it is night and day from stars or tilt. It is more on the levels of ub and ap regarding security and modernizing the skin. This thread was posted for real feedback regarding realistic opinions and realistic experiences on the topic of CHIP DUMPING TO YOURSELF FROM ONE SKIN TO THE NEXT . pls focus on the subject at matter , not multiaccounting. thanks again all

when will i see an apology?

Do you define proof as "something someone else said"?

[Jasep]

Call me crazy but I don't just take things written on internet forums as 100% fact, you are welcome to PM me step-by-step instruction on how do what you say can be done. I have 4 Merge skins that I use, I would be happy to follow those instructions, record everything and report back the result. If it turns out you are correct than at least some proof was presented. I will also be happy to put merge on blast for it on my radio show. If you are only willing to just randomly spew wild speculation, but call them "facts" I am just not feeling it man...

[ktx49]

oh please, you make me sick.

just stop replying to this thread if your more concerned with arguing over a non issue than addressing the questions ive raised.

here are the instructions:

1. get two computers
2. get two skins DLed and make two accounts
3. log into each skin even from the same IP
4. register into the same tournaments

merge doesnt care unless someone attempts to dump funds between skins; since you cannot do transfers from one skin to another on merge for numerous reasons.

[Jasep]

oh please, you make me sick.

just stop replying to this thread if your more concerned with arguing over a non issue than addressing the questions ive raised.

here are the instructions:

1. get two computers
2. get two skins DLed and make two accounts
3. log into each skin even from the same IP
4. register into the same tournaments

merge doesnt care unless someone attempts to dump funds between skins; since you cannot do transfers from one skin to another on merge for numerous reasons.

You brought it up, not me

[ktx49]

whats that supposed to mean?

so basically you dont care, you just wanted to argue about me providing proof of a claim i never needed to prove in the first place

also wanted to post this again and see what some of you guys thought about the situation...sure stinks:

http://www.pocketfives.com/f10017/me...t-read-658544/

[Steve-O]

whats that supposed to mean?

so basically you dont care, you just wanted to argue about me providing proof of a claim i never needed to prove in the first place

also wanted to post this again and see what some of you guys thought about the situation...sure stinks:

http://www.pocketfives.com/f10017/me...t-read-658544/

So what I've learned from reading that P5's thread is that you make wild accusations without any sort of evidence at multiple online poker forums --nobody is even asking for proof, just some cursory evidence! So do you work at Americas Cardroom, Tiger Gaming, or Cake Poker????

All you do is troll the Internets rounding up any Merge allegation, then make lengthy posts about it, and then when confronted say you don't have the "time" to do the research for other people.

You do not play on Merge, you are not a grinder, and you are a shill for some competing room.... And that has to be true, even though I have not a shred of evidence, because I just said it on the Internet Now do you see why you get bashed on the forums and your accusations fall on deaf ears????

[ktx49]

i guess you really dont get it, i dont care if im unpopular on an internet forum because my goal is to help get merge to address and fix the major security issues that exists on the site since thats the only option left for me to grind on. if you think i'm more worried about fitting in and not stepping on someones toes, you've got me all wrong.

and i love how you suddenly have nothing to say except attacking me, you asked for proof and as soon as thats provided you have nothing to say. classic troll.

but ya, keep deflecting everything back to me. i havent seen you address anything ive brought up in the last couple of pages, so what are you contributing by posting in this thread???

ya thats what i thought. run along troll.

*edit*
also, you say i make wild accusations....how can anything be brought to light if nobody is ever willing to step up and say what they think. ive said it numerous times on p5s and i think ive said it on here as well, but i challenge a merge rep to come in and *prove* that any "accusations" ive made about security issues on merge are untrue! i will be the first person to apologize and eat my words, because its not about being right or wrong or being cool with the nerd patrol, its about the integrity of the game on a site that is the last option for many americans.

if you have a problem with my agenda, then you sir, are not interested in protecting the integrity of our sport. but ya, lets sit here naively and wait for something to go down before saying anything, since thats worked so well in the past.

i'm serious if you have nothing to add to this thread, please just stop posting in here. I MADE the thread for the purpose of discussing issues on MERGE and that is exactly what I will continue to do. i am not making a case in a court room, i do not need proof or evidence of anything i'm wanting to DISCUSS ON HERE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THE SUBJECT.

do you have to agree with me or take my stance? no.

so stop jumping on me for bringing up issues and concerns i have with the site, when the point of this forum and this thread, is to allow these discussions to take place. but maybe im wrong, lets ask mr Dan Druff

[Steve-O]

i guess you really dont get it, i dont care if im unpopular on an internet forum because my goal is to help get merge to address and fix the major security issues that exists on the site since thats the only option left for me to grind on. if you think i'm more worried about fitting in and not stepping on someones toes, you've got me all wrong.

and i love how you suddenly have nothing to say except attacking me, you asked for proof and as soon as thats provided you have nothing to say. classic troll.

but ya, keep deflecting everything back to me. i havent seen you address anything ive brought up in the last couple of pages, so what are you contributing by posting in this thread???

ya thats what i thought. run along troll.

*edit*
also, you say i make wild accusations....how can anything be brought to light if nobody is ever willing to step up and say what they think. ive said it numerous times on p5s and i think ive said it on here as well, but i challenge a merge rep to come in and *prove* that any "accusations" ive made about security issues on merge are untrue! i will be the first person to apologize and eat my words, because its not about being right or wrong or being cool with the nerd patrol, its about the integrity of the game on a site that is the last option for many americans.

if you have a problem with my agenda, then you sir, are not interested in protecting the integrity of our sport. but ya, lets sit here naively and wait for something to go down before saying anything, since thats worked so well in the past.

i'm serious if you have nothing to add to this thread, please just stop posting in here. I MADE the thread for the purpose of discussing issues on MERGE and that is exactly what I will continue to do. i am not making a case in a court room, i do not need proof or evidence of anything i'm wanting to DISCUSS ON HERE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THE SUBJECT.

do you have to agree with me or take my stance? no.

so stop jumping on me for bringing up issues and concerns i have with the site, when the point of this forum and this thread, is to allow these discussions to take place. but maybe im wrong, lets ask mr Dan Druff

No, I'm pretty sure you are the only one who doesn't "Get It". There is a reason you are unpopular across multiple forums. You keep mentioning these major security issues on Merge, but you haven't shown one shred of evidence for any of them other than some... my cousin's, ex-wife's, 8 year-old son heard from another kid at Belmont Elementary school that Merge allowed Multi-accounting.

[Dan Druff]

These guys have a point.

There are so many outlandish/inaccurate claims on the internet that you need to either be a longtime trusted player or provide proof for anyone to take you seriously.

It may suck, but that's the way it is, because we're inundated with so many bogus accusations regarding shadiness in online poker.

You should collect all of the evidence you can, and post your findings here.

[ktx49]

These guys have a point.

There are so many outlandish/inaccurate claims on the internet that you need to either be a longtime trusted player or provide proof for anyone to take you seriously.

It may suck, but that's the way it is, because we're inundated with so many bogus accusations regarding shadiness in online poker.

You should collect all of the evidence you can, and post your findings here.

hmm.
im perplexed.
so you just completely ignore the thread i linked from P5s? merge not only allows it indirectly by not properly securing their games, but they even have a skin under their watch, feltstars, staking players in some really odd manner(which has people looking into whether these tickets are even legit)....and if you want to move away from speculation in that regard, the backer apparently encouraged multi-accounting to maximize profits on each of these "ticket" accounts.
basically, you guys have some serious reading and research of your own to do, and frankly im a little taken back at how you guys have responded in this thread and are approaching these issues given your track record at getting to the bottom of things.

if you dont agree with me about these problems, thats fine, but atleast look at the information i have presented and then decide. you even asked for proof and i told you exactly how you could do it, in regards to logging in two accounts into the same tourney.

you guys seem to be confusing my speculation and opinions, with the facts ive presented....which seems a little odd to me considering the main issues i have are not rooted at all in speculation or opinion. when i tell you that you can log into two accounts from the same IP and even enter into the same tournaments from these accounts, its not speculation....

the same thing was possible on UB/AP.... you could basically take 2 shots at a tourney, but im 99% sure they never allowed you to be logged into both at the same time from the same IP even lol using the same personal information/etc . and if you are really going to argue with me about this, i dont see any point to continue here as you obviously dont care about security on merge.

[Bootsy Collins]

These guys have a point.

There are so many outlandish/inaccurate claims on the internet that you need to either be a longtime trusted player or provide proof for anyone to take you seriously.

It may suck, but that's the way it is, because we're inundated with so many bogus accusations regarding shadiness in online poker.

You should collect all of the evidence you can, and post your findings here.

hmm.
im perplexed.
so you just completely ignore the thread i linked from P5s? merge not only allows it indirectly by not properly securing their games, but they even have a skin under their watch, feltstars, staking players in some really odd manner(which has people looking into whether these tickets are even legit)....and if you want to move away from speculation in that regard, the backer apparently encouraged multi-accounting to maximize profits on each of these "ticket" accounts.
basically, you guys have some serious reading and research of your own to do, and frankly im a little taken back at how you guys have responded in this thread and are approaching these issues given your track record at getting to the bottom of things.

if you dont agree with me about these problems, thats fine, but atleast look at the information i have presented and then decide. you even asked for proof and i told you exactly how you could do it, in regards to logging in two accounts into the same tourney.

you guys seem to be confusing my speculation and opinions, with the facts ive presented....which seems a little odd to me considering the main issues i have are not rooted at all in speculation or opinion. when i tell you that you can log into two accounts from the same IP and even enter into the same tournaments from these accounts, its not speculation....

the same thing was possible on UB/AP.... you could basically take 2 shots at a tourney, but im 99% sure they never allowed you to be logged into both at the same time from the same IP even lol using the same personal information/etc . and if you are really going to argue with me about this, i dont see any point to continue here as you obviously dont care about security on merge.

Jesus Christ where is your proof and evidence of this? In order for us to believe you we need concrete evidence in the form of a screenshot or video etc. etc. It is very simple to take a screenshot. If you are on Windows 7 it comes with a nifty utility called "Snipping Tool" there you can take screenshots. If you can't provide us with any proof we will all assume that you are a shill and will not take your word for shit. It is a simple and straightforward concept just provide us with evidence and we will act accordingly.

[ajfsports]

Im not so sure what kind of proof you people are asking for. Its pretty simple to assume that i can sit at my kitchen table with my laptops and play in the same MTT or ring game on any poker network i wanted to.

If im connected through my cox cable connection on 1 laptop and the other one im hijcaking my neighbors unsecure connection theres no issue is there.

Im sure a lot of people have seen guys sitting around a starbucks all playing on stars. Are we naive enough to think that they arent playing together?? A lot of people at the wsop who are sharing a house sit around and play are we going to just assume that they arent playing in the same tournies as well

[chinamaniac]

Holy fuck dude - I was online playing a tournament and saw you playing heads up vs looser..... dude. That was fucking disgusting. I know heads up you can stick around with ace high and shit, but how many times can you hit a river 9 holding 9-3 or the like.

My reply

I know huh? I am pretty mad right now and I am going to write a post on some of the weird shit I have seen on this network lately. A lot of it is just inexplicable. Keep in mind I have played matches as high as 200-400 vs some of the best players in the world heads up and have taken plenty of beatings in the neighborhood of 5-15k and yeah I was pissed for losing money but never felt I was cheated or something was wrong.

Only one exception which was on Full Tilt 2 years ago where I predicted the guy would never play again after he beat me for 6k and what I said was true. He never played another hand after that night.

Donks usually always stick around after a groundbreaking win because they feel it is easy and they then donate it all back. If they are good they usually stick around to keep making more money cause they feel it is a printing press.

Here is a link to an article I wrote starting halfway down page 1 of this thread on PFA on strange shit on merge that happened to me in the fall followed by another guys post who had the same feeling vs the same player

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...-Merge-Network




I just played this guy Daly is talking about for 280 hands and he won 175 of them ,a lot of them with total garbage where he had no business being in the hand on river. Same with a guy I played the other night and he won 40 out of 50 hands.



A lot of the matches I have lost on this stake the guy has won like same ratio of hands and they hit these ridiculous draws/cards.

This guy that daly is talking about has 15k hands logged in here in NL and beating them for 7 BB 100 which is possible over a short span but when u dig a little deeper some of the numbers seem consistent with this.

He has played 400 hands of 6-12 and won about $1400 in less than 2 hrs of play. $1400 fucking dollars in a 6-12 heads up match and he has no other heads up hands logged in.

I was his first play in over a week but he shows up and decides to play 10-20 heads up. So he won 130 BB vs someone else in 400 hands of play and smokes me for 75 BB in 300 hands.

Sure it is possible but some of the stuff is a lil fishy at the same time.

He is also a U.S. player but somehow has 22k in his account because he flashed it all to show he has more money than me when I reloaded, maybe he won a huge MTT or Kills sngos I dunno but he has a lot of cash on his Merge balance which is dumb and interesting for someone who doesn;t play that high. I will look up his MTT and sngo stuff later

Guy who beat me in 30-60 for 2k last week hasn't logged a hand in since that match. You would think he would keep playing if it is that easy.

Then you have 2 of the last 3 guys who beat me for 1k plus have yet to return to the tables.

I have lost now 220 out my last 350 hands played on the custom tables to guys I feel I have quite an edge over.

And the guy I played on custom tables before that was a total drooler and beat me for 1k

I am not coming out and saying I am being cheated but I have had some serious bad luck on Merge Heads up matches and at the same time I have predicted that 3 players would not log in another hand after my match with them and I was correct with 2 of them and 3 of 4 if u count the shadow mode matches.

I am going to investigate deeper on a lot of this stuff. Could just be pure coincidence that I am running bad and they are running well while playing like shit. But remember I have played over a million hands of heads up and I am just seeing some shit I have never seen before and it is over and over

[FPS_Russia]

Merge seized $1500 from Magic612. This guy has never cheated and many witnesses will agree. Play the vid. at this link where he reads the letter Merge sent.

http://www.blogtv.com/People/PokerStarsIsAScam