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    I don't understand this statement.

    The current round of anti-Semitism isn't a result of Trump or the right. It's a result of extremists on both the left and right pushing fake genocide propaganda, and both of these contingents being far louder than the moderates on both sides.

    Recall that the 10/7 attacks happened under Biden, and even though they weren't his fault, the anti-Semitism arose during that time frame, not since Trump took office on 1/21/25.

    In fact, a lot of left wing Jews are stupidly supporting the Mamdani types who claim to be for the people, and not to hate Jews (wink wink nudge nudge) while actually doing all they can to support the Islamic Jew hating contingent in this country. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to what's happening in Minnesota and Michigan?

    BTW, right wing Jews were, for the most part, not fans of any of the current anti-Semitic right, with the exception of Tucker. This is why you'll notice that I was speaking against Candace Owens long before 10/7/23.
    No one knows who any of these popular right wing antisemites even are if not for MAGA. You needed these people to win, cultivated them, courted them, nodded your head when Trump said the Jews will not replace us were very fine guys, and now it’s blowing up in your face. Who is the antisemite of the left atm? No one that anyone is talking about. This is entirely a right wing story. Tucker, Nick, Candace. Trump made all those people. These are all people birthed from the MAGA movement. Tucker recreated himself from neo-con, but Trump loves him.
    I never nodded my head about these people, and the "Very fine people" shit was a lie taken out of context. I'm surprised you're still repeating that.

    For a long time, I have condemned the anti-Semitic trashy wing of the right, and in fact argued with a lot of them online.

    I also said that they were a fringe element and did not influence policy. At the time I said it, I was right. They did not influence first term Trump policy at all. Their enthusiasm helped Trump win, and their loudness online probably helped convert some in the middle, but I never embraced them. Much like I doubt you embrace the purple-haired woke female college students who despise the patriarchy and white men, yet they help your candidates win.

    Trump had no choice but to accept support from the groyper contingent. They were loud, they were posting funny memes, they were an enthusiasm machine. He needed every vote he could get. He needed every bit of possible support to counter the massive media and Hollywood machine working against him. If he condemned them, he never would have won 2016, or 2024 for that matter.

    Yes, now some of that is coming home to roost. The Israel situation opened that door -- it was what that group needed to attempt to graduate from fringe to mainstream. It's just an excuse, by the way. None of them care about this fake "genocide", and none actually give a shit about US money going to a foreign country. It's an excuse to openly bash Jews, and it's a further excuse to force out the mainstream politicians and voices on the right.

    What can be done now? The party has to reject that contingent. If we lose short term because of that, so be it. In the medium term, it's the right strategy. Besides, if that group is embraced, we will lose even worse.

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    If you actually believe in the republican platform your #1 priority should be turning off the spigot of American hating immigrants. And Trump has done more of this than anything else.

    And by ignoring this and chasing imaginary Jewish pedophile ring conspiracies all the so called republicans are going to do is hand back the nation to the democrats, who just want to open the flood gates completely.

    Of course the irony is because of demographic shifts, the Democratic Party is quickly becoming the real antisemitic party. So all the America last haters like Telafriemd will ultimately get their wish, as the democrats take control and institute anti Jewish pogroms. But it will be a very Pyrrhic victory, as the people replacing the Jews are infinitely worse in every aspect, and truly hate this nation and want to see it destroyed.
    You really are such a clown right now. You’re Laura Loomer with the Tucker foreign influence shit all while pretending Trump isn’t by far the worst of all of them. The dEmS r the ReAl aNtiSemites


    Has any American family received as much money from Qatar as Donald Trump and his family?

    ### Overview of Qatar's Financial Ties to the Trump Family
    Qatar has provided significant financial benefits to Donald Trump and his family through a combination of direct payments, investments, gifts, and business deals. These include:

    - **Historical hotel and property spending (2017–2021)**: Qatari government entities and royals spent approximately $1.1 million at Trump-owned properties like the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., and Trump World Tower in New York. This included $300,000 for stays by Qatari royals and a $6.5 million condo purchase by the Qatari mission to the UN, which generated ongoing fees for the Trump Organization.
    - **Recent business deals (2024–2025)**: The Trump Organization, led by sons Donald Jr. and Eric, secured a $5.5 billion golf resort and villa project in Qatar with Qatari Diar (a state-owned developer). The family earns millions annually in licensing, branding, and management fees, though the exact Qatari contribution to the project is undisclosed (estimated in the hundreds of millions based on similar deals).
    - **Investment in family-linked ventures**: Qatar's sovereign wealth fund (Qatar Investment Authority) contributed $1.5 billion to Jared Kushner's (Trump's son-in-law) Affinity Partners investment firm in 2024, part of a broader Gulf investment surge. This builds on Kushner's post-2021 fundraising in the region, where Qatar was a key player.
    - **Direct gift**: In May 2025, Qatar donated a customized $400 million Boeing 747 jet to the U.S. government for use as a temporary Air Force One, with plans to transfer it to Trump's presidential library foundation by 2029—effectively a personal asset for the family post-presidency.

    Aggregating these, the Trump family has received or stands to receive **over $2 billion** from Qatar-linked sources since 2017, primarily through Kushner's fund and the resort project's fees. This figure excludes indirect benefits like interest on investments or boosted property values from Qatari tourism.

    ### Comparison to Other American Families
    No other single American family has received comparable direct financial benefits from Qatar. Qatar's broader U.S. spending—totaling nearly $40 billion since 2012—focuses on institutions rather than individuals or families:

    - **Universities (largest recipients)**: Qatar has donated $6.25 billion to U.S. higher education since 2001, with 97% going to six schools hosting Doha branch campuses: Cornell ($2.1 billion), Texas A&M ($993 million), Carnegie Mellon ($968 million), Georgetown ($928 million), Northwestern ($714 million), and Virginia Commonwealth ($334 million). These are institutional grants for operations and research, not personal family windfalls. No university leadership "family" (e.g., a president's relatives) has pocketed these funds personally.
    - **Investments in firms**: Qatar's sovereign wealth fund has poured billions into U.S. businesses, including $500 million to Steve Mnuchin's (former Treasury Secretary) Liberty Strategic Capital in 2022 and $485 million to AlTi Global in recent years. However, Mnuchin (not a "family" in the relational sense) and similar recipients are individuals or entities, not multi-generational family units like the Trumps.
    - **Lobbying and PR**: Qatar spent $250 million on 88 U.S. firms since 2016, hiring ex-officials like Pam Bondi (up to $115,000/month in 2020–2022). Top firms (e.g., Mercury Public Affairs, BGR Group) earned millions collectively, but payments are dispersed to professionals, not concentrated in one family.
    - **Other notable flows**: Qatar invested $3.3 billion in U.S. sectors like energy and tech in 2023, but these are broad economic deals. No evidence of equivalent family-centric packages exists for groups like the Bidens, Clintons, or Bushes—Qatar's past donations to the Clinton Foundation ($1–5 million) pale in comparison.

    ### Why the Trump Case Stands Out
    The Trump family's benefits are uniquely concentrated: a mix of personal gifts, family business fees, and spousal investments totaling billions, often tied to policy access (e.g., Trump's 2025 Middle East trip overlapped with deal announcements). This scale—enabled by Trump's brand and office—exceeds Qatar's dealings with any other U.S. family, raising Emoluments Clause concerns. Qatar's strategy emphasizes "soft power" via institutions, but the Trumps represent a rare direct, familial infusion.

    In short, **no**, no other American family has received as much from Qatar as the Trumps. This reflects Qatar's targeted influence amid U.S.-Gulf ties, but it underscores broader debates on foreign money in American affairs.
    I was projecting from Telafriends perspective. Trump Jr. and Tucker are in Qatar right now grifting the night away. Tucker is bragging how he is in the process of "buying" a house in Qatar. Foreigners dont just buy property in Qatar; any property he does end up with will be payment for services rendered.

    I have been the most outspoken person on this forum pointing out all the influence peddling Qatar has been doing. But Trump is just the tip of the iceberg, and most blatant. Numerous European countries and even Israel have had their own "Qatargate" scandals; although it isn't ever really a scandal because everyone is payed off so no one cares.

    With Trump the corruption is a given. If you voted for him, especially in 2024, and didn't realize or accept this; you are literally retarded. The only question is, apart from the grifting is he doing a good job or not. And IMO (you and Telafriend are free to disagree) Trump's efforts in exposing supposed pedophile rings from 25 years ago is the least of what we should be judging Trump on and worrying about; and for you guys it seems to be the #1 priority. And I feel this is extremely misplaced priorities.

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    jews are cooked tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Tellafriend has been the most outspoken person on this forum pointing out all the influence peddling ISRAEL has been doing. But Trump is just the tip of the iceberg, and most blatant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
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    Is this a positive development in your opinion? Is our politicians and influencers selling themselves to Qatar and facilitating pogroms on Jews going to make the US better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
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    jews are cooked tbh

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    Is this a positive development in your opinion? Is our politicians and influencers selling themselves to Qatar and facilitating pogroms on Jews going to make the US better?

    No opinion, just insight from a seasoned prognosticator. Fuentes currently 58k viewers @ midnight on RUMBLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    Is this a positive development in your opinion? Is our politicians and influencers selling themselves to Qatar and facilitating pogroms on Jews going to make the US better?

    No opinion, just insight from a seasoned prognosticator. Fuentes currently 58k viewers @ midnight on RUMBLE
    There seems to be a lot of this. A lot of people (not saying you specifically) think we need to stick it to the Jews, but dont really have any clear vision for how this is actually going to make anything better for America; especially as it is playing out in real time.

    And the irony is these so called "American first" Jew haters are allying with people who literally hate America, and are attacking Jews specifically because they see Jews/Israel as a weak point of Western power and hegemony; and by helping isolate and ostracize Jews they believe they are weakening American power and influence, and do see a clear path towards achieving their goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    He should just come out of the closet already.

    He also mentioned being disgusted by women having periods.

    This is exactly how a gay man would think, as they find all of women’s bodies unappealing.
    no common agenda here you two have, none.
    I dont ever comment on Fuentes sexuality, or care about it. Splithis was fantasizing about Nick's cock size, and I was just relaying information provided on the topic. Sorry if it touched a nerve.

    If it makes you feel better, just tell yourself Milo is lying and he has a hog. Maybe it is the truth; I wouldn't put Milo above lying about something like that.

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    https://twitter.com/AedmarSkyjarn/status/1998138427225805149

    This type of dishonest bullshit is exactly what has empowered people like Fuentes. We're reaching a critical point as the Overton window continues to shift - either both liberal and conservative politicians and mainstream media figures on both sides are honest about the problems with crime and immigration, or people like him are going to control the narrative, and blaming the Jews for all of it is going to go fully mainstream. We're almost there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
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    No opinion, just insight from a seasoned prognosticator. Fuentes currently 58k viewers @ midnight on RUMBLE
    There seems to be a lot of this. A lot of people (not saying you specifically) think we need to stick it to the Jews, but dont really have any clear vision for how this is actually going to make anything better for America; especially as it is playing out in real time.

    And the irony is these so called "American first" Jew haters are allying with people who literally hate America, and are attacking Jews specifically because they see Jews/Israel as a weak point of Western power and hegemony; and by helping isolate and ostracize Jews they believe they are weakening American power and influence, and do see a clear path towards achieving their goals.
    It's one of these stupid things where people go after whomever they think are "in charge", and then once they get there, they have no idea what to do next, or why they did it in the first place.

    The idiots really believe that Israel is running everything in the US for their own selfish gain, and that once the US is freed from Israeli control, the heavens will open up and everyone will prosper.

    Everyone also seems to have a hard time distinguishing the difference between the ability to laugh at a witty troll, and trusting him to lead any kind of serious political/social movement.

    Assume Fuentes is a comedian, and things will become a lot more clear.

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    Fuentes did own Piers in that black/white crime segment, but it's the same way I own a complete fish heads up in limit holdem.

    If your opponent is incompetent, you can always look like a genius.

    A liberal (or whatever Piers is) is never going to win the black/white criminality argument. The simple data shows that black men commit crime at a far greater rate than white men, and it's not even close.

    For some reason, libs have a hard time admitting this. They pivot to "Well, what about school shootings? What about spree killings?", purposely ignoring the fact that such shootings/killings are a tiny percentage of all shootings/killings in the US. So it's just not a fair comparison.

    I have libs try to pull this on me in Facebook debates sometimes. I own them every time, and usually it ends with them calling me a KKK member and blocking me.

    You can't argue with basic facts and statistics. You can try to argue WHY the black crime rate is higher, and try to blame white society for it (lol), but you can't deny the actual crime rates unless you are either willfully ignorant or dishonest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Fuentes did own Piers in that black/white crime segment, but it's the same way I own a complete fish heads up in limit holdem.

    If your opponent is incompetent, you can always look like a genius.

    A liberal (or whatever Piers is) is never going to win the black/white criminality argument. The simple data shows that black men commit crime at a far greater rate than white men, and it's not even close.

    For some reason, libs have a hard time admitting this. They pivot to "Well, what about school shootings? What about spree killings?", purposely ignoring the fact that such shootings/killings are a tiny percentage of all shootings/killings in the US. So it's just not a fair comparison.

    I have libs try to pull this on me in Facebook debates sometimes. I own them every time, and usually it ends with them calling me a KKK member and blocking me.

    You can't argue with basic facts and statistics. You can try to argue WHY the black crime rate is higher, and try to blame white society for it (lol), but you can't deny the actual crime rates unless you are either willfully ignorant or dishonest.


    and now they are cooking and under/falsely reporting the statistics. all by design.

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    You really are such a clown right now. You’re Laura Loomer with the Tucker foreign influence shit all while pretending Trump isn’t by far the worst of all of them. The dEmS r the ReAl aNtiSemites


    Has any American family received as much money from Qatar as Donald Trump and his family?

    ### Overview of Qatar's Financial Ties to the Trump Family
    Qatar has provided significant financial benefits to Donald Trump and his family through a combination of direct payments, investments, gifts, and business deals. These include:

    - **Historical hotel and property spending (2017–2021)**: Qatari government entities and royals spent approximately $1.1 million at Trump-owned properties like the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., and Trump World Tower in New York. This included $300,000 for stays by Qatari royals and a $6.5 million condo purchase by the Qatari mission to the UN, which generated ongoing fees for the Trump Organization.
    - **Recent business deals (2024–2025)**: The Trump Organization, led by sons Donald Jr. and Eric, secured a $5.5 billion golf resort and villa project in Qatar with Qatari Diar (a state-owned developer). The family earns millions annually in licensing, branding, and management fees, though the exact Qatari contribution to the project is undisclosed (estimated in the hundreds of millions based on similar deals).
    - **Investment in family-linked ventures**: Qatar's sovereign wealth fund (Qatar Investment Authority) contributed $1.5 billion to Jared Kushner's (Trump's son-in-law) Affinity Partners investment firm in 2024, part of a broader Gulf investment surge. This builds on Kushner's post-2021 fundraising in the region, where Qatar was a key player.
    - **Direct gift**: In May 2025, Qatar donated a customized $400 million Boeing 747 jet to the U.S. government for use as a temporary Air Force One, with plans to transfer it to Trump's presidential library foundation by 2029—effectively a personal asset for the family post-presidency.

    Aggregating these, the Trump family has received or stands to receive **over $2 billion** from Qatar-linked sources since 2017, primarily through Kushner's fund and the resort project's fees. This figure excludes indirect benefits like interest on investments or boosted property values from Qatari tourism.

    ### Comparison to Other American Families
    No other single American family has received comparable direct financial benefits from Qatar. Qatar's broader U.S. spending—totaling nearly $40 billion since 2012—focuses on institutions rather than individuals or families:

    - **Universities (largest recipients)**: Qatar has donated $6.25 billion to U.S. higher education since 2001, with 97% going to six schools hosting Doha branch campuses: Cornell ($2.1 billion), Texas A&M ($993 million), Carnegie Mellon ($968 million), Georgetown ($928 million), Northwestern ($714 million), and Virginia Commonwealth ($334 million). These are institutional grants for operations and research, not personal family windfalls. No university leadership "family" (e.g., a president's relatives) has pocketed these funds personally.
    - **Investments in firms**: Qatar's sovereign wealth fund has poured billions into U.S. businesses, including $500 million to Steve Mnuchin's (former Treasury Secretary) Liberty Strategic Capital in 2022 and $485 million to AlTi Global in recent years. However, Mnuchin (not a "family" in the relational sense) and similar recipients are individuals or entities, not multi-generational family units like the Trumps.
    - **Lobbying and PR**: Qatar spent $250 million on 88 U.S. firms since 2016, hiring ex-officials like Pam Bondi (up to $115,000/month in 2020–2022). Top firms (e.g., Mercury Public Affairs, BGR Group) earned millions collectively, but payments are dispersed to professionals, not concentrated in one family.
    - **Other notable flows**: Qatar invested $3.3 billion in U.S. sectors like energy and tech in 2023, but these are broad economic deals. No evidence of equivalent family-centric packages exists for groups like the Bidens, Clintons, or Bushes—Qatar's past donations to the Clinton Foundation ($1–5 million) pale in comparison.

    ### Why the Trump Case Stands Out
    The Trump family's benefits are uniquely concentrated: a mix of personal gifts, family business fees, and spousal investments totaling billions, often tied to policy access (e.g., Trump's 2025 Middle East trip overlapped with deal announcements). This scale—enabled by Trump's brand and office—exceeds Qatar's dealings with any other U.S. family, raising Emoluments Clause concerns. Qatar's strategy emphasizes "soft power" via institutions, but the Trumps represent a rare direct, familial infusion.

    In short, **no**, no other American family has received as much from Qatar as the Trumps. This reflects Qatar's targeted influence amid U.S.-Gulf ties, but it underscores broader debates on foreign money in American affairs.
    I was projecting from Telafriends perspective. Trump Jr. and Tucker are in Qatar right now grifting the night away. Tucker is bragging how he is in the process of "buying" a house in Qatar. Foreigners dont just buy property in Qatar; any property he does end up with will be payment for services rendered.

    I have been the most outspoken person on this forum pointing out all the influence peddling Qatar has been doing. But Trump is just the tip of the iceberg, and most blatant. Numerous European countries and even Israel have had their own "Qatargate" scandals; although it isn't ever really a scandal because everyone is payed off so no one cares.

    With Trump the corruption is a given. If you voted for him, especially in 2024, and didn't realize or accept this; you are literally retarded. The only question is, apart from the grifting is he doing a good job or not. And IMO (you and Telafriend are free to disagree) Trump's efforts in exposing supposed pedophile rings from 25 years ago is the least of what we should be judging Trump on and worrying about; and for you guys it seems to be the #1 priority. And I feel this is extremely misplaced priorities.

    I care about the Epstein case only in so far as it’s an inside baseball look into a situation I’m sure is still occurring. And quite frankly, the political penalty Trump has paid to keep it hidden tells me that whatever entities were in charge of running it are still operating. And that has to mean heavy intelligence ties.

    Most of the men are old, gone, or irrelevant at this point and anyone would throw them on the fire pit of history to save their administration unless there is something very damning still to hide. Him pressuring sitting congressman to bury it. His hundred attempts to bury it. The laughable about face. All of it screams it’s really bad. A list of Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, and a bunch of elderly old perverts wouldn’t cause any ripple. They know that. Yet they fiercely protect it. Makes zero sense. Unless his participation is way more damning than he’s let on or it directly involves CIA/Israel in some heavy handed way.

    Your post is why people want to see it. When a Jewish cheerleader says there is nothing to see there, then people know there is something to see there. Or at least was. He won’t ever release it until it’s so heavily redacted that we will get the list I already described with Bill Gates and Bill Clinton and absolutely no one will buy it except MAGtards.

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    No opinion, just insight from a seasoned prognosticator. Fuentes currently 58k viewers @ midnight on RUMBLE
    There seems to be a lot of this. A lot of people (not saying you specifically) think we need to stick it to the Jews, but dont really have any clear vision for how this is actually going to make anything better for America; especially as it is playing out in real time.

    And the irony is these so called "American first" Jew haters are allying with people who literally hate America, and are attacking Jews specifically because they see Jews/Israel as a weak point of Western power and hegemony; and by helping isolate and ostracize Jews they believe they are weakening American power and influence, and do see a clear path towards achieving their goals.
    Oh stop, Jews are not the victim. We know who's doing all the sticking via the prison rape leak. The idf rioted for the right to do the sticking. Cats out of the bag. From Palestine to Ukrain to the US tax payers to the elite Uni's.

    Jews are doing all the sticking and have been for decades, probably centuries.
    The further you go down the rabbit hole the more you realize that the "t" is silent.

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