Time to get on the TRUMP train

[Jayjami]

Want to bet a grand SCOTUS strikes this down?

If I wanted to bet this I'd wait until it is actually heading there and bet on Polymarket - there's already one market for if it gets struck down before the end of the month. Again, this case will be decided on politics, not on the merits, and Roberts is almost surely going to side with the team of DEI, libtardian justices, all they need is one more. Lastly, if I were going to bet with someone here it wouldn't be with the forum equivalent of a "job guy".

No. They are going to side with the Constitution. And it’s going to be 9-0. It’s as simple as that. This one is so easy they might even let that idiot Clarence Thomas (who is an originalist) author the opinion.

Plus, Trump is going to get his ass handed to him in every single federal court. SCOTUS might not even grant certiorari on the matter and just let the lower court’s rulings’ stand, so they don’t waste their time.

[VaughnP]

Want to bet a grand SCOTUS strikes this down?

If I wanted to bet this I'd wait until it is actually heading there and bet on Polymarket - there's already one market for if it gets struck down before the end of the month. Again, this case will be decided on politics, not on the merits, and Roberts is almost surely going to side with the team of DEI, libtardian justices, all they need is one more. Lastly, if I were going to bet with someone here it wouldn't be with the forum equivalent of a "job guy".

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I hope I'm wrong on this one, but it just seems like Roberts and Barrett are going to fail everyone here.

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"The 14th amendment's birthright citizenship clause was written specifically for the children of freed slaves. It was not intended so that somebody could cross the Rio Grande, give birth, and have their child automatically considered an American citizen.

The Wong Ark Kim case that the left always cites to claim this as settled law applied to the children of laborers from China who were legally brought to America to work on the transcontinental railroads.

We don't give the children of foreign diplomats born in America citizenship and neither should we give it to the children of illegal aliens.

Time for SCOTUS to do the right thing and end this scam."



Go back one page for a logical explanation for why the current interpretation is bullshit. I hate how much power SCOTUS has.

[VaughnP]

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[Jayjami]

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Sad that a sitting governor is incapable of understanding basic English words.

[splitthis]

It is vastly understated how many preggos come here to drop them solely to gain citizenship.

They then bring over their brood all on welfare.

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[RichardBrodiesCombover.]

Wtf happened here





The Dells at the Whitehouse announcing that Trump account scam

[VaughnP]

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All of this and the replies are worth reading. Over the years I have researched this almost surely more than anyone here has, likely even combined. Being as objective as I possibly can, the current interpretation is absolute bullshit and not at all what the men of that time intended it to be - no other way to say it.

[VaughnP]

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[VaughnP]

We need an explanation for how this still doesn't apply to American Samoans and originally specifically excluded "Indians not taxed", but somehow included the children of literally everyone else in the world under any circumstance that came here illegally and popped out an anchor baby. Dumbest fucking shit ever.

"Indians not taxed" proves how retarded the current prevailing interpretation is by itself - the reason for this is because the "Indians not taxed" were subject to tribal law first, not subject to the jurisdiction thereof the United States. They didn't want the children of Natives counting as citizens for census and congressional representation purposes, but they definitely would have been all for millions of Mexicans and Central Americans crossing the border and having their kids be.

No one can provide a real counter argument to this point or any of the other key points without basing it on vibes or woke, pozzed AI and agenda-driven legacy media opinions that are stated as facts.

[VaughnP]

[Jayjami]

We need an explanation for how this still doesn't apply to American Samoans and originally specifically excluded "Indians not taxed", but somehow included the children of literally everyone else in the world under any circumstance that came here illegally and popped out an anchor baby. Dumbest fucking shit ever.

"Indians not taxed" proves how retarded the current prevailing interpretation is by itself - the reason for this is because the "Indians not taxed" were subject to tribal law first, not subject to the jurisdiction thereof the United States. They didn't want the children of Natives counting as citizens for census and congressional representation purposes, but they definitely would have been all for millions of Mexicans and Central Americans crossing the border and having their kids be.

No one can provide a real counter argument to this point or any of the other key points without basing it on vibes or woke, pozzed AI and agenda-driven legacy media opinions that are stated as facts.

Do you not understand the word "all"?

[Dan Druff]

The anchor baby shit is stupid and illogical, and should be eliminated.

It's like saying that if my wife happens to be in your house when she gives birth, you have to support my kid for the next 18 years.

They should eliminate it, but allow all existing anchor babies to keep their status.

[VaughnP]

In digging deeper on this, I did know that the Heritage Foundation strongly supported Barrett's nomination, but I didn't know that she was previously a Senior Legal Fellow in their Center for Legal and Judicial Studies.

They have of course for years now been lobbying for the end of birthright citizenship harder than anyone - it's basically one of their core tenets.

I know for a fact Trump has planned on going after this since the beginning of his first term. One would think and hope he more or less nominated her with an indirect under the table assurance of how she'd rule on this - the Ginsburg Rule be damned. It's not illegal for him to outright ask any question like this to a potential nominee, but direct answers from a potential nominee are unethical.