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Thread: If you want to visit NYC, go soon (Zohran Mamdani wins Dem primary)

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    Get Adam Sandler to run...

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    Zohan vs. Zohran

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    you know, none of this shit is on my radar so naturally all i had to work with was this guy being cringe but fundamentally innocuous and having an absolutely incredible outreach campaign.

    and im sorry to say that every single critique i have about the democratic capacity for self sabotage is once again proudly on display as more and more footage of this fucking idiot being unelectable starts popping up.

    like if he still feels like 'the goal is seizing the means of production' then he owes everyone the opportunity to know thats something he believes in so we can move on to a less unserious candidate and if he doesnt still think that unelectable bullshit stances should be part of his election narrative, why fucking leave them online?

    bloomberg would have this guy breaking down in tears in any reasonable debate.





    i miss bloomberg.
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    I have been to Chicago probably more that anyone on this site combined, obviously outside someone that lives there like Larry. We would go to Joe's all the time. Shaws. Navy Pier, etc.. You know how many times I have been there in the last 3 years? Yep zero. Same with New York City. These places simply are no longer safe for anyone with a family.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Just curious. Dude is running to be the mayor of the biggest city in America and yet he's over in his families armed compound in that 3rd world shithole made famous by Idi Amin and Israeli military when they kicked in the teeth of the terrorists who hijacked a plane to Entebbe. (for those unaware several high up Israeli politicans were in the IDF at the time and took part directly including Bibi, Shimon Peres, and Yitzak Rabin. Bibi actually lead the operation in Uganda and sadly his brother died during the raid to free 102 hostages

     
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      Orko: His resume is indeed impressive. The great Idi Amin, wow.

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    That was compelling, ok State Dept. sanction Modi.
    The amount of reparations the Jews and now Indians owe to Muslims is off the charts.

    I think Mondoni's smart enough to realize they're not going to pay it, you have to take it.
    The further you go down the rabbit hole the more you realize that the "t" is silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    This is soooo much more simple then that Druff, every single major American Metropolitan area so City, in the U.S. is actually voting Blue and Democratic.

    Reason being most major Metropolitan Cities have new immigrants, and poor people who need and use Social Services. All major Populated American City in the U.S. votes BLUE on Election day (Democratic) its what Cities in America do, Vote Blue. They vote Blue like clockwork, you need the Flyover States to win as a Republican or RED, of course.
    That's old thinking.

    A lot of rich, educated white people in big cities are voting Democrat these days.

    At the same time, the GOP has made big gains with working class people, including black and Hispanic men.

    Growing up I constantly heard, "Republicans are the party of the religious or rich people, and Democrats represent the common man."

    That wasn't really true, but it was definitely more true back then compared to today. The GOP is increasingly becoming the "common man" party, and the Democrats are becoming the party of both the rich/educated and those who believe they're part of a victimized demographic.

    This brings us to the bizarre place where you have a lot of poor people who are very against raising the taxes on rich people, and you have rich people who oddly want to see themselves taxed.
    Getting working class whites to vote against their economic interests (evidently to "own" the libs) has been the greatest victory of the GOP in my lifetime. It all started with Willie Horton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    That's old thinking.

    A lot of rich, educated white people in big cities are voting Democrat these days.

    At the same time, the GOP has made big gains with working class people, including black and Hispanic men.

    Growing up I constantly heard, "Republicans are the party of the religious or rich people, and Democrats represent the common man."

    That wasn't really true, but it was definitely more true back then compared to today. The GOP is increasingly becoming the "common man" party, and the Democrats are becoming the party of both the rich/educated and those who believe they're part of a victimized demographic.

    This brings us to the bizarre place where you have a lot of poor people who are very against raising the taxes on rich people, and you have rich people who oddly want to see themselves taxed.
    Getting working class whites to vote against their economic interests (evidently to "own" the libs) has been the greatest victory of the GOP in my lifetime. It all started with Willie Horton.
    Poor people vote en masse for Democrats who keep the freebies rolling in.

    What did the big beautiful bill do? The Tax Policy Center, a left wing organization, says the middle class were by far the biggest winners in the big beautiful bill. They got an average $1800 tax cut per person.

    The rich were hit with tax raises, up to 35%.

    The working class also got no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on SS. If I would have woke up from a years long coma and someone told me about no tax on tips and no tax on overtime I would have said "damn, the dems came through for the middle class." But nope, every senate and congressional democrat voted against it.

    The middle class votes against it's own self interest when they vote for dems.

     
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    NEWSWEEK, A LEFT WING PUBLICATION, SAYS TRUMP IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT AFTER SIX MONTHS SINCE FDR .

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    it never ends with you two retards. just plain dumb and dumber.


    chatgpt 5.1



    overall, who was the biggest beneficiary of the big beautiful bill? answer with either: low income, middle class, or the rich and give your reasons for the answer.



    For One Big Beautiful Bill Act (signed July 4, 2025), the biggest beneficiaries are **the rich**.

    Here’s why (nerdy walking-through with social-equity goggles on):

    1. **Tax cuts skew upward**: The bill permanently extends tax cuts from 2017 (which disproportionately benefitted high-earners) and adds new breaks (for example, larger deductions for state & local taxes up to higher thresholds) that are more useful to people with larger tax bills. ([Wikipedia][1])

    2. **Program cuts hit the low-income hardest**: To pay for the tax cuts and new spending, the bill cuts back significantly on social-safety-net programs such as Medicaid and Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Non-partisan score-keepers find that lower-income households lose resources while higher earners gain. ([Center for American Progress][2])

    3. **Relative impact**: Analyses show the lowest decile of earners see their incomes fall (due to benefit cuts) and the highest incomes rise (due to tax breaks). ([Wikipedia][1])

    4. **Middle class benefit less (and sometimes suffer indirectly)**: While there are new credits/deductions (for kids, overtime, etc.), they either expire or don’t offset the bigger structural shifts for lower-income people. So the middle class sees some benefit, but less dramatically than the top, and some middle and lower earners end up worse off because of loss of programs. ([Kiplinger][3])

    In short: The rich win *big*, the middle class gets moderate benefit (and mixed outcomes) and the low-income workers/households bear many of the losses.

    If you like, I can pull up **estimates by income-percentile** (e.g., top 1 %, bottom 20 %) so we can see exact numbers for “who got how much”.


    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Bi...ce=chatgpt.com "One Big Beautiful Bill Act"
    [2]: https://www.americanprogress.org/art...ce=chatgpt.com "The Truth About the One Big Beautiful Bill Act's Cuts to ..."
    [3]: https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/trum...ce=chatgpt.com "Trump 2025 Tax Bill: What's Changing and How It Affects ..."


    yes


    Great — here are some detailed estimates (nerd mode engaged) of how the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) signed in July 2025 distributes gains and losses across income groups. The picture: heavy benefits for the top, modest changes for the middle, and net losses for the bottom.

    ---

    ### ✅ Key numbers

    * According to one analysis: the **bottom decile** (lowest ~10 % of earners) will see an average decline in after-tax + transfer income of about **$2,700 per year** over the 2026-2034 period. ([The Budget Lab at Yale][1])
    * The **top decile** (top ~10%) will see an increase of about **$8,000 per year** on average for the same period. ([The Budget Lab at Yale][1])
    * For tax cuts specifically: in 2026 the richest 1% get a net tax cut of **$66,000 on average**. ([ITEP][2])
    * In relative terms: one source reports that about **70%+ of the net tax cuts** go to the richest fifth of Americans in 2026; less than 1% of the net tax cut goes to the poorest fifth. ([ITEP][2])
    * For middle-income households (earning around ~$100k): one estimate gives a gain of around **$1,000-$2,000 per year** (for the initial years) after factoring tax changes but *before* many of the benefit/spending cuts. ([WCVB][3])

    ---

    ### �� What this means in plain language

    * If you’re in the **lowest income bracket**, this bill doesn’t just give you a small benefit—it *costs* you, once spending cuts to programs like Medicaid/SNAP and increased requirements kick in.
    * If you’re **middle class**, you might see a small net benefit (tax break) but that benefit is *very small* compared to what high earners see — and you may also feel hurt by program cuts or rising costs.
    * If you’re **wealthy or very high income**, you are the major winners: large tax cuts, big absolute dollar gains, and less impact from the program cuts that hit lower incomes.

    ---

    If you like, I can pull together a **table** showing estimates for multiple percentiles (bottom 20%, middle 20%, top 20%, top 1%) side-by-side to make the distribution even clearer.

    [1]: https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/...ce=chatgpt.com "Combined Distributional Effects of the One Big Beautiful Bill ..."
    [2]: https://itep.org/tax-provisions-in-t...ce=chatgpt.com "Analysis of Tax Provisions in the Trump Megabill as Signed ..."
    [3]: https://www.wcvb.com/article/big-bea...ce=chatgpt.com "Here's how much money you'll gain or lose under ..."

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    raised 1 million but needs 5 million, that's 5x more than the last Mayor... gimme gimme gimme



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    MAGA "I can’t believe that just 24 years after 9/11, New York City is seriously considering electing someone who openly embraces radical anti-American positions."

    Also MAGA 'Lets have a parade for the leader of the country that funded 9/11' and chopped a guy that Trump says 'many people didn't like'
    (way more people hate Trump than ever even heard of Khashoggi)

    You have to be such a hypocrite to be in Trump's GOP.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    very hard to imagine the mayor has authority to tell the school board what to teach. that is certainly not the way it is done down south. it's not possible. one has nothing to do with the other. cattrud leads the sycophants. he still is on my algo even tho i told x to mute him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    very hard to imagine the mayor has authority to tell the school board what to teach. that is certainly not the way it is done down south. it's not possible. one has nothing to do with the other. cattrud leads the sycophants. he still is on my algo even tho i told x to mute him.

    to be clear, the joke is that the arabic numerals are literally the decimals 0 to 9.
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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