brothers to the bone mcmasters totally normal 30 year old tombstone reference
brothers to the bone mcmasters totally normal 30 year old tombstone reference
https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1979793205496307901
This is what happened as soon as Israel left.
Really nice people, those Hamas terrorists, huh?
Funny how the anti-Semitic left and right have refused to say one cross word about these barbarians for the past 2 years, and they make Israel the bad guy. When are people going to wake up that Israel was fighting against violent religious nutjobs who attacked them and would have continued attacking?
Man Tim Dillon made me laugh and asked the same question I have been asking for a year. How can people so good at media become horrible so quickly?
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1979710718388965679
Like in what world is this smart? You bribe people and spend money so they can act like like the game is fair and then always fall your way when the deal goes down. You don’t want them to be visible sycophants.
Charlie Kirk was irrelevant to me, but clearly he was relevant to a lot of people. He was obviously done with Israel at the end.
I’m not launching into conspiracy theory about his death. People are talking about why and that he was willing to forsake the Jewish money to be rid of them. I think he likely made a more pragmatic decision.
He was 31 and there is no future in being friends with Israel even as a quasi evangelical get out the vote organization. Yeah it will be ok for another decade and after that the young people hate Israel on both sides in a way that isn’t going to turn around. Like 3 of the top 5 podcasts in the world spend a lot of time hating on Israel.
Shit like this isn’t helping. If you’re an overexposed brand, where people have grown tired of you, you lie low and be quiet for a time. Their PR campaign is like we want to be an in your face genocidal Nickleback. And I’m not calling them genocidal, but they lost that PR campaign and are widely viewed as such and it’s time to lay low. They have done almost everything wrong.
Seeing Netanyahu talk to the group about the need to manipulate TikTok and X, man that is so cringeworthy. Who puts that on video? It’s insane.
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people who have gotten away with it for that long.
I watched the video in your clip and it is some old men playing some kind of soft rock at some kind of concert, and I assume it is some sort of religious Jewish thing. I feel like I can normally pick up context pretty quick, but I cant really track what that is even a video of or how it relates to Netanyahu, or what you are even referring to as far as seeing him talk about TikTok and X.
I follow all the MAGA far right conspiracy theories and I dont really get the Charlie Kirk being done with Israel thing. And am a little surprised you went there, as you are (correctly) skeptical and dismissive of MAGA conspiracies.
Is there any actual evidence at all of this, other than taking the word of people like Candace, Tucker and Alex Jones? Who are these people talking about why he was ditching Isael other than MAGA liars?
AFAICT the only actual evidence is one line in a group text he made when he was upset and venting. Other than that all the "evidence" is taking the word of bad faith liars.
I mean if you are arguing Kirk is smart, and he was going to read the tea leaves and eventually get there, then that is fine. But there is no real evidence at all he was close to this point when he died.
And a lot of real evidence the other way, including the retreat he did with Ackman and the note he handwrote to Netanyahu last summer. I mean he did a debate with Ben Shapiro 2 days before he died, and there is nothing in that to suggest he was "done with Israel." If that was actually the case, dont you think there would be some breadcrumbs other than one line of a private text chain? And taking the world of MAGA liars?
I watched the video in your clip and it is some old men playing some kind of soft rock at some kind of concert, and I assume it is some sort of religious Jewish thing. I feel like I can normally pick up context pretty quick, but I cant really track what that is even a video of or how it relates to Netanyahu, or what you are even referring to as far as seeing him talk about TikTok and X.
I follow all the MAGA far right conspiracy theories and I dont really get the Charlie Kirk being done with Israel thing. And am a little surprised you went there, as you are (correctly) skeptical and dismissive of MAGA conspiracies.
Is there any actual evidence at all of this, other than taking the word of people like Candace, Tucker and Alex Jones? Who are these people talking about why he was ditching Isael other than MAGA liars?
AFAICT the only actual evidence is one line in a group text he made when he was upset and venting. Other than that all the "evidence" is taking the word of bad faith liars.
I mean if you are arguing Kirk is smart, and he was going to read the tea leaves and eventually get there, then that is fine. But there is no real evidence at all he was close to this point when he died.
And a lot of real evidence the other way, including the retreat he did with Ackman and the note he handwrote to Netanyahu last summer. I mean he did a debate with Ben Shapiro 2 days before he died, and there is nothing in that to suggest he was "done with Israel." If that was actually the case, dont you think there would be some breadcrumbs other than one line of a private text chain? And taking the world of MAGA liars?
It’s Mike Huckabee and the former ambassador playing with a band, and this part I’m relying on previous descriptions so don’t trust me, about the plans for a greater Israel.
The Netanyahu reference was from a video that is everywhere and I just assumed anyone in thread would have seen.
I disagree about Kirk. His own people verified it and it was a day before he died. I’m not saying they killed him, that is silliness. I mean you don’t use the words Kirk used while venting. If I get irritated at Druff I’m not calling his argument typical Jew shit and living up to stereotypes. I’d make that joke if he was arguing over $2 for 2 hours. He’d know in that context I’m joking. Kirk did the first.
Yeah I think at 31, he was reading tea leaves, the only right wing guys in agreement with him are irrelevant at this point like Shapiro, and all the energy in his movement was done with Israel.
My post is about poor PR. We see Hamas in their element already killing their own. You can be right about who they are and lose the argument.
You don’t tell your wife she’s an idiot for believing that Macron shit from Candace I’m sure. You do you win the argument and then have to beat off for a month. Is that a win?
But MAGA is in essence still largely about foreign interventionist wars. A post-Iraq populist movement also hating on woke culture. It’s a real tightrope. The woke culture is a popular issue you want people focused on. But too many on the right now aren’t staying confined to that issue. They talk about the larger issues which brought the US to here, and that conversation isn’t a good one for Israel unless you’re a straight neo-con. Most people aren’t at this point.
When it’s 60% of the GOP and 80% of the young people under 40, and basically the only personalities anyone listens to, are they bad actors or simply the party’s most popular sentiment? I’d argue it’s the latter.
The why in your highlighted part is why he was done with Israel given TPUSA was always in lockstep, not the why he was killed.
@Kalam, the original song in the video clip is Sweet Home Alabama by Lynard Skynyrd... Mike Huckabee turned into Sweet Home Yerushalayim'....
Ok. So if your argument is that American evangelicals and American Orthodox Jews are weird people, especially their interest in Israel for "end time" reasons, I'll give you that. But it doesn't seem any more deranged than the whole Muslim obsession with "Aqsa" that was basically completely manufactured in the last 50 years just to propagandize Muslims against Israel and the US. No one in the Muslim world gave a single shit about "Aqsa" before Israel took Jerusalem in 1967. That isn't even what Arabs/Muslims called Jerusalem before 1967. There are plenty of deranged religious people to go around (the vast majority of them Muslim). All the focus is just on Israel and Jews right now for geopolitical reasons. Not because it is objectively the correct viewpoint.
But it is kind of strange to show a clip of 2 Americans singing "Sweet home Jerusalem" as a reason to shit on Netanyahu or even Israel.
Israel has plenty of their own religious zealots that provide plenty of material for criticism. Kind of weird to criticize Netanyahu or Israel for our religious zealots.
As far as Kirk, I guess we will have to agree to disagree how much weight one should put into one recent angry private text (where we dont even see the rest of the conversation or how it was resolved) against a lifetime of evidence pointing the other way. As you seem to acknowledge there is no other real evidence that supports your assertion, unless you want to take the words of MAGA liars who are constantly saying unsupported bullshit.
I mean, we can all read the tea leaves and see the way things are going. So if you are a young Republican, distancing from Israel makes a lot of sense. That being said, I dont think it was obvious "Kirk was done with Israel."
Obviously the far right and far left are going to be anti-Israel no matter what moving forward, but I think a lot of people in the middle just want to throw Netanyahu under the bus (many would argue fairly) and move on. Maybe not as aligned as before, but not being "done with Israel" either. It isn't obvious to me how things are going to play out. I dont think the writing is on the wall as definitely as you apparently do.
And FWIW I am not shy at all about my opinion of Candace Owens and my wife listening to her. But our family dynamic isn't one where we argue or fight over politics and this is VERY far down the list of things she is upset at me for on any given day. I tell her she is an idiot for listening to Candace and she says whatever. And then we have real arguments about what to do about our son's laziness and bad grades. (And then I go beat off to porn in the guest room)
Last edited by Kalam; 10-19-2025 at 05:16 PM.
Kalam see if this one moves you.
https://twitter.com/DrLoupis__/status/1978506335537774700
In hindsight, ceasefires are a bit antisemitic
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1979842205578940635
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The “ceasefire” was never real to being with. Before the ink was dry Hamas declared they never agreed to the 20 point plan and weren’t disarming and Israel declared they weren’t leaving Gaza anytime soon.
The deal was between Trump and Qatar, where Qatar agreed to tell Hamas to release the live hostages and Trump gave Qatar the defense guarantee and all the other deals he made with them. And Israel agreed to end the Gaza City offensive. And Trump gave himself the PR victory.
And now it is back to whatever the current state of the war is.
and our soy, goy asses footing the bills.
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and our soy, goy asses footing the bills.
You do realize Israel pays for 80% of the arms it gets from the US, and for the 80% that Israel pays and the 20% that is aid all the money goes to US arms manufacturers. Israel doesn't actually get any money.
And at least we (the US) is getting something out of it from the Israel end. We pay a ton for the Palestinian side too and get jack shit for it. Just a black hole.
Son of a bitch, he stole my lineBuy Raytheon and Boeing stock.
You do realize Israel pays for 80% of the arms it gets from the US, and for the 80% that Israel pays and the 20% that is aid all the money goes to US arms manufacturers. Israel doesn't actually get any money.
And at least we (the US) is getting something out of it from the Israel end. We pay a ton for the Palestinian side too and get jack shit for it. Just a black hole.
Buy Raytheon and Boeing stock.
You do realize Israel pays for 80% of the arms it gets from the US, and for the 80% that Israel pays and the 20% that is aid all the money goes to US arms manufacturers. Israel doesn't actually get any money.
And at least we (the US) is getting something out of it from the Israel end. We pay a ton for the Palestinian side too and get jack shit for it. Just a black hole.
do you really think i am that simple minded? ever thought they might pay for it with the billions we give them annually and then periodically as bonuses for idk, reasons?
and you are right, i wouldn't give shit to Palestine either. see, i'm not a jew hater.
The real interesting question is why Hamas accepted the fake ceasefire. I expect they were much more "on the ropes" than we realize and they decided to return the live hostages to get Israel to back off enough for them to get some space to breathe. And they may have gotten some guarantees from the Sunni states that they would keep supporting them and wouldn't push them out.
And given this, the decision today to attack the Israel engineering vehicle that killed 2 IDF soldiers was interesting, as it potentially gives Netanyahu an opening to go back into Gaza City. Of course, AFAIK we dont actually know who did the attack or what their motive were. Could have been a rogue decision that wasn't centrally planned.
come on, you know we promised to rebuild palestine, etc.. just wait. prob pallets of cash too.
Rogan going on a RT propaganda arc I guess was inevitable.
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