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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    I actually know someone with a story pretty much identical to this, even looks remarkably similar to who this girl was - just picture someone slightly shorter and a little more pale, that and a bit of a goth flare and sense of style. Years ago she messaged me on some dating site and was upfront about transitioning. Apparently she had been on testosterone for several months, and it made her extremely attracted to masculine men. She was 21 at the time, trying to finish school, and was honestly highly intelligent. I just don't know what happens to these types. She pretty much just wanted to become a gay man, she wasn't attracted to women at all. So bizarre.

    I actually did meet her several times, and she made sure to clarify that she would always be "fem presenting" for me unless I wanted her not to be - there was some kind of weird thing going on where she was using me as a barometer of validation. I had quite a few in depth conversations with this person, and I will confess that it was just out of personal curiosity/to study how someone ends up this way. (It didn't hurt that she was taking something that gave her have an insane sex drive.) She hadn't been on testosterone long enough for there to be any noticeable changes besides maybe losing some natural fat deposits, that and some weird thing going on with her voice.

    Anyhow, it does have a happy ending unlike the above freak show, and I like to think I contributed to it. She eventually stopped the nonsense and even ended up having a kid. True story. There are way more young women going through this than some of the older people on here might realize, especially in college towns.
    End of Times- The erosion of decency and morality in the country.

    I have written on this website many times my personal take on transgenderism- People should have self acceptance and love who you are. People need counseling, therapy and support and NOT surgery. I have written this atleast 8 times on PFA, yet my words and opinion keep getting twisted into hate. Get help and treatment, NOT surgery.

    Add- I know a trans person and can tell you, years later, I hear the regret in their voice.

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    End of times- Decay in society. Positive Note- BUT someone actually DID one of the solutions- self policing and fixes- called out the offender and kicked him out of the business.

    There was a pregnant woman ordering food at the bullet proof glass and the other woman kicked out the black dude smoking crack in the resturant. This is a move in the right direction- self policing and problem solving within the tribe...

    https://twitter.com/iAnonPatriot/status/1972308050100056288

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    [QUOTE/ it's just so much more fucked up when it's not weird dudes doing it for mostly perverted, sexual reasons.
    /QUOTE]

    We already knew but you just outed yourself you tranny obsessed pervert
    Please don't project your gross perversions onto me, Guyblo.

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    https://twitter.com/RAREPALACE/status/1972432782371762509

    The backlash against this kid keeps getting louder by the day - the AI video is legitimately funny. People keep calling him a shill for Israel and a plant to shift the youth back to Bush-era neocon days. It's hard not to make the second connection. He really does seem like what one would get if someone paid a talented, gay theater kid to do their best impression of a young, southern, aspiring Republican politician from those days. Never seen so much hate against someone who literally no one knew of a few days ago.

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    https://twitter.com/marcocholopolo7/status/1972490657601401132

    It is strange, he was on FoxNews one hour after Kirk's death and somehow ended up being declared his successor by some within a few days. He's doing a tour of TPUSA college chapters as we speak.

    https://twitter.com/HealthRanger/status/1972049365528162461

    https://x.com/uCntHndlThyquestionabl...04169495621893

    https://twitter.com/mistermugabe/status/1972053083623772192

    https://twitter.com/Nero/status/1971889147721011608

    https://twitter.com/Nero/status/1972014793726087491

    I'm only posting these for context. What one can infer from the infinite thought out and meme attacks against this kid and all the people spreading them is that there is no hope on shifting the narrative back to the pre-Trump right, and any real attempts are just going to make things worse.

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    End of times- The decay of society- The usual suspects...

    https://twitter.com/SarahAllisonFl/status/1972391538459357438

     
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    https://twitter.com/Villgecrazylady/status/1972763821854146867

    Take a couple minutes and watch this - then realize this is virtually every Gen z kid of average intelligence or higher who has the slightest bit of interest or more in politics. Israel overplayed their hand, and as previously mentioned, the current PR efforts and any in the future to try and undo this are only making things much, much worse.

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    https://twitter.com/Vinod_r108/status/1972273553249866150

    Saw this again. In the U.S., this would be where we would have to exercise our constitutional right to overthrow the government.

    Canadians will see this and be even more eager to sell their guns to the next buyback program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    I actually know someone with a story pretty much identical to this, even looks remarkably similar to who this girl was - just picture someone slightly shorter and a little more pale, that and a bit of a goth flare and sense of style. Years ago she messaged me on some dating site and was upfront about transitioning. Apparently she had been on testosterone for several months, and it made her extremely attracted to masculine men. She was 21 at the time, trying to finish school, and was honestly highly intelligent. I just don't know what happens to these types. She pretty much just wanted to become a gay man, she wasn't attracted to women at all. So bizarre.

    I actually did meet her several times, and she made sure to clarify that she would always be "fem presenting" for me unless I wanted her not to be - there was some kind of weird thing going on where she was using me as a barometer of validation. I had quite a few in depth conversations with this person, and I will confess that it was just out of personal curiosity/to study how someone ends up this way. (It didn't hurt that she was taking something that gave her have an insane sex drive.) She hadn't been on testosterone long enough for there to be any noticeable changes besides maybe losing some natural fat deposits, that and some weird thing going on with her voice.

    Anyhow, it does have a happy ending unlike the above freak show, and I like to think I contributed to it. She eventually stopped the nonsense and even ended up having a kid. True story. There are way more young women going through this than some of the older people on here might realize, especially in college towns.
    Interesting.

    I somehow ended up following a female-to-male trans on X, who goes by "The Pissed Off Lawyer". I have never interacted with this person, either publicly or privately, but have quietly observed some of the craziness.

    This individual was born female, was a masculine Vanessa Selbst type lesbian her entire life, and then transitioned to male.

    Earlier this year, "he" started a detransitioning process back to a "she".

    But that's not the interesting part to me.

    The interesting part was one particular post, where she mentioned that, when on testosterone for the FTM transition, she suddenly started having attraction to men. She claimed that she had absolutely zero attraction to dudes her entire life, but suddenly she liked them, and started to have increasing sexual fantasies about fucking men. She said that she felt guilty about it at the time, after being such a vocal member of the lesbian community, and having spent her entire life telling people that her lack of attraction to men wasn't a choice.

    She kept it quiet for that reason, not wanting to look like a flake who was just gay for attention.

    But here's where it really got weird. Several other female-to-male trans followers popped out of the woodwork and insisted that the same happened to them. They had all started off fully lesbian, and suddenly started liking dudes while on T.

    Is it possible that they inadvertently found a "cure" for lesbianism -- that T injections to gay women can turn them straight, or at least bi?

    It's possible, and while counterintuitive, there seems to be enough anecdotal evidence to be worth investigating. As I read the thread, some of the FTM trans were saying that this was a "dirty little secret" of the female-to-male trans world, and that it was extremely common.

    To my knowledge, this does not work on gay men, nor is there any other injectible or medication known to make gay men attracted to women.

    If it turns out this really is a "cure" for lesbianism, I wonder how many women would take it. It would be very controversial, for sure.

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    Here's grok's analysis:

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    Evidence from Transgender Experiences

    The closest related evidence comes from transgender men (assigned female at birth, identifying as men) or nonbinary individuals who previously identified as lesbians and begin masculinizing hormone therapy (testosterone injections). In these cases, some report shifts in attraction, including new or intensified interest in men. However, this is not evidence for cisgender lesbians, as gender identity and dysphoria play key roles:

    Prevalence of Changes: Studies show 22–40% of trans men report some shift in sexual orientation after starting testosterone, often becoming more attracted to men (e.g., from lesbian to bisexual or straight).

    A 2015 study of 452 trans individuals found 49% of transmasculine people experienced changes, mostly post-social transition.

    Possible Mechanisms: These shifts are attributed to:Increased libido from testosterone, amplifying existing but repressed attractions.

    Reduced gender dysphoria allowing freer exploration of attractions (e.g., feeling "seen as a man" removes barriers to male partners).

    Social and psychological factors, not direct hormonal causation.

    Anecdotal Reports: Online forums (e.g., Reddit's r/ftm and r/FTMMen) feature personal stories from trans men who, after starting T, felt "a switch flipped" toward men.

    For example, one user described pre-T lesbian attraction fading as male attraction emerged, linked to alleviated dysphoria.

    These are self-reports, not controlled studies, and do not apply to cisgender women.

    No equivalent anecdotes or data exist for cisgender lesbians on testosterone (e.g., for medical reasons like hypogonadism), as such cases are rare and not systematically studied.

    I don't think this is simply due to social changes or differences in personal confidence.

    If 49% of women on testosterone levels for transition (which presumably are much higher levels than normal T treatment for women with medical issues) suddenly start being sexually attracted to guys, that's pretty damn significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    I actually know someone with a story pretty much identical to this, even looks remarkably similar to who this girl was - just picture someone slightly shorter and a little more pale, that and a bit of a goth flare and sense of style. Years ago she messaged me on some dating site and was upfront about transitioning. Apparently she had been on testosterone for several months, and it made her extremely attracted to masculine men. She was 21 at the time, trying to finish school, and was honestly highly intelligent. I just don't know what happens to these types. She pretty much just wanted to become a gay man, she wasn't attracted to women at all. So bizarre.

    I actually did meet her several times, and she made sure to clarify that she would always be "fem presenting" for me unless I wanted her not to be - there was some kind of weird thing going on where she was using me as a barometer of validation. I had quite a few in depth conversations with this person, and I will confess that it was just out of personal curiosity/to study how someone ends up this way. (It didn't hurt that she was taking something that gave her have an insane sex drive.) She hadn't been on testosterone long enough for there to be any noticeable changes besides maybe losing some natural fat deposits, that and some weird thing going on with her voice.

    Anyhow, it does have a happy ending unlike the above freak show, and I like to think I contributed to it. She eventually stopped the nonsense and even ended up having a kid. True story. There are way more young women going through this than some of the older people on here might realize, especially in college towns.
    Interesting.

    I somehow ended up following a female-to-male trans on X, who goes by "The Pissed Off Lawyer". I have never interacted with this person, either publicly or privately, but have quietly observed some of the craziness.

    This individual was born female, was a masculine Vanessa Selbst type lesbian her entire life, and then transitioned to male.

    Earlier this year, "he" started a detransitioning process back to a "she".

    But that's not the interesting part to me.

    The interesting part was one particular post, where she mentioned that, when on testosterone for the FTM transition, she suddenly started having attraction to men. She claimed that she had absolutely zero attraction to dudes her entire life, but suddenly she liked them, and started to have increasing sexual fantasies about fucking men. She said that she felt guilty about it at the time, after being such a vocal member of the lesbian community, and having spent her entire life telling people that her lack of attraction to men wasn't a choice.

    She kept it quiet for that reason, not wanting to look like a flake who was just gay for attention.

    But here's where it really got weird. Several other female-to-male trans followers popped out of the woodwork and insisted that the same happened to them. They had all started off fully lesbian, and suddenly started liking dudes while on T.

    Is it possible that they inadvertently found a "cure" for lesbianism -- that T injections to gay women can turn them straight, or at least bi?

    It's possible, and while counterintuitive, there seems to be enough anecdotal evidence to be worth investigating. As I read the thread, some of the FTM trans were saying that this was a "dirty little secret" of the female-to-male trans world, and that it was extremely common.

    To my knowledge, this does not work on gay men, nor is there any other injectible or medication known to make gay men attracted to women.

    If it turns out this really is a "cure" for lesbianism, I wonder how many women would take it. It would be very controversial, for sure.

    I recall when I was like 19 I met a girl who worked in the pharmacy. She told me about how they kept like a testosterone jelly behind the counter for women with low libido or who were aging and drying up. Like they’d rub it on their clit. I had never heard about such a thing at that age nor knew it helped women in that way, and of course I tried to to get her to give me a tub of the jelly for the T boost and she laughed and said it was dosed so low since it was for women that I’d get no benefit out of it.

    But it’s not shocking that these trans cases feel something awakened that may have lay dormant. It’s what is natural. It’s something to study. It’s possible that lesbian is a place they land when they don’t have that strong attraction to the opposite sex. I mean women drive all of us straight guys crazy, but our sex drive forces us to let them live so we can fuck them. Put up with shit we never would. I have seen my tolerance for putting up with nonsense from women diminish with age. Most men our age arrive there. That seems normal once you are not driven by hormones to the degree you are when young.

    That makes sense in the larger context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I mean women drive all of us straight guys crazy, but our sex drive forces us to let them live so we can fuck them. Put up with shit we never would. I have seen my tolerance for putting up with nonsense from women diminish with age. Most men our age arrive there. That seems normal once you are not driven by hormones to the degree you are when young.

    That makes sense in the larger context.


    i.e,. post nut clarity.

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