Regarding Boz and sonatine

[Sloppy Joe]

Druff has actually addressed this numerous times in the past ten years (I'm not sure if recently cause radio is too late for me to listen to nowadays). But yes he has clearly indicated that numerous high profile people refuse to associate with his site despite their liking of him.

remember when micon got to give play by play analysis at a wsop?

he was good at it to.

Sure, he's a better analyst and more respected and liked and inordinately wealthier than druff but I bet he would give it all up for a friend like desertrunner

[Tellafriend]

remember when micon got to give play by play analysis at a wsop?

he was good at it to.

Sure, he's a better analyst and more respected and liked and inordinately wealthier than druff but I bet he would give it all up for a friend like desertrunner

jesus christ, you are ruthless and so good at it.

[desertrunner]

I'm going to try this one last time.

Let's say I woke up tomorrow and thought to myself, "You know what? desertrunner is 100% right about this. I am going to let him decide who we need to remove from the forum."

And let's say that, upon my asking you for a list of people to remove, you had me ban sonatine, BCR, and a few others that you've complained about in the past. Let's even say that I promised to leave them banned for at least 12 months.

So we get to WSOP 2026, in June. sonatine, BCR, and the rest have been banned for 9 months.

Do you think my reputation in poker -- or this site's reputation -- would even be the slightest bit better?

The answer is NO. Why? Because their posts weren't really the problem.

The answer would actually be YES. This is why- When you have any type of group dynamic (company, school, social) and there is a small percentage of that group that is always causing the problems or issues within the group, typically removing the "cancer" or source of the ongoing issue self resolves the issue. Here at PFA, a number of "good members" have ID'd the obvious ongoing problem members here, keep telling you and desertrunner always get blamed for it instead.

But we'd still have your posts/threads about black people, as well as reposts of tweets from known racist X accounts, as well as your "Transgender Pictures Thread"...

First, the "black people" posts/threads are actual news or action videos showing live action from across the nation and supporting the news trend of a specific group that is 13% of the population committing over 50% of the crime in America.

Also, "from known racist X accounts" is a fib and sensationalizing just to build a case here. These X accounts are NOT racist or X would ban them per their strict policies. If Elon Musk was allowing "known racist accounts", the liberal public would def call him on it, but havent. These specific videos do NOT contain "racist content" as they are live action and news reels showing current and recent situations across the country like fights, stealing, crime, etc. There was never anything "racist" about these re-posted videos. And other members here have participated and commented on these video and there are not a "desertrunner only" posts. And just because the liberal members here complain about the topic and videos, so what, they cry about everything. When Sontatine was posting naked black men in the fishing thread, no one said anything then.

Second, the transgender thread is titled "Transgender pictures and stories" to cover this national topic. It is still active, informative and other members participated in it. There was nothing wrong or nefarious with this current topic, but the resident liberals here get mad because members wanted to discuss the issue. There was nothing wrong with this quality thread, the resident liberals just complained about it because "desertrunner did it". Additionaly, I have given my personal opinion on the topic several times within the thread and it was never offensive, derogatory or attacks trans people, it was simply a decent opinion on why I do not agree with the trans idea.

...as well as other stuff which would get people upset to see.

Who cares if people get upset?? Tell them to stop whining. This is the internet, if something upsets you- scroll past it, ignore it or log off. The resident liberals post upsetting things here all the time like jewish hate, false IA screen shots, "Later Fag" graphic, gay sex penetration to just name a few and you dont see the other good members here always whining, crying and complaining. Just because someone else is mad, doesnt mean they are right. Druff- You should ignore these people, just like you ignore most of my phone tests, LOL. Do the exact same thing- just ignore them.

So I'd still be having the uncomfortable conversations about why I allow these things on my site. And I'd still be giving the same "free speech" answer I always give. But it feels shitty whenever this happens, and I don't love thinking about what these people must say to other players behind my back.

But thats your choice here to operate such a site and now youre trying to publicly shame desertrunner and put 100% of the crap posts on him. You have multiple good members here telling you that Sonatine ruins the PFA experience for all of us. And the whole removal of the N word here was not from DR either.

I am not saying that I'm going to additionally censor the forum. As you've seen, I've even allowed blatantly anti-Semitic shit to stay up here, despite being Jewish myself. I prefer to respond to that sort of ridiculous crap and debunk it, rather than censor it.

But you have been additionally censoring it recently, but not Soantine. Thats what The Boz is trying to tell you.

And yes, lots of people besides you -- including members here who vote Democrat -- also post offensive things which can make me and/or the site look bad.

THANK YOU, finally on to the real problem here.

The offensiveness of this community dates all the way back to the 2004 NWP days, and in fact the modern version on PFA pales in comparison to the shit that used to go on. But it's a different time with different standards, and the bottom line is that it's my name ultimately connected with this site.

This has nothing to do with desertrunner.

My point is that the free speech nature of this site has long been a thorn in my side reputation-wise, but I've dealt with it because I believe in running a forum with minimal censorship. It's absurd that you think my banning a few guys you dislike will change that for me, especially when you are one of the biggest offenders regarding posting things which people would find objectionable.

Actually NO. The resident liberals here act like the liberals in real life- they attack anyone who disagrees with them and on here they just constantly complain to you because they know if they do, you will have to publicly shame and discipline me and you award their continuous bad behavior by not addressing it. This is why multiple members here complain about Sonatine, he does his BS and you let it slide and its always "desertrunner's fault".

[Tellafriend]

The answer would actually be YES. This is why- When you have any type of group dynamic (company, school, social) and there is a small percentage of that group that is always causing the problems or issues within the group, typically removing the "cancer" or source of the ongoing issue self resolves the issue. Here at PFA, a number of "good members" have ID'd the obvious ongoing problem members here, keep telling you and desertrunner always get blamed for it instead.

But we'd still have your posts/threads about black people, as well as reposts of tweets from known racist X accounts, as well as your "Transgender Pictures Thread"...

First, the "black people" posts/threads are actual news or action videos showing live action from across the nation and supporting the news trend of a specific group that is 13% of the population committing over 50% of the crime in America.

Also, "from known racist X accounts" is a fib and sensationalizing just to build a case here. These X accounts are NOT racist or X would ban them per their strict policies. If Elon Musk was allowing "known racist accounts", the liberal public would def call him on it, but havent. These specific videos do NOT contain "racist content" as they are live action and news reels showing current and recent situations across the country like fights, stealing, crime, etc. There was never anything "racist" about these re-posted videos. And other members here have participated and commented on these video and there are not a "desertrunner only" posts. And just because the liberal members here complain about the topic and videos, so what, they cry about everything. When Sontatine was posting naked black men in the fishing thread, no one said anything then.

Second, the transgender thread is titled "Transgender pictures and stories" to cover this national topic. It is still active, informative and other members participated in it. There was nothing wrong or nefarious with this current topic, but the resident liberals here get mad because members wanted to discuss the issue. There was nothing wrong with this quality thread, the resident liberals just complained about it because "desertrunner did it". Additionaly, I have given my personal opinion on the topic several times within the thread and it was never offensive, derogatory or attacks trans people, it was simply a decent opinion on why I do not agree with the trans idea.

...as well as other stuff which would get people upset to see.

Who cares if people get upset?? Tell them to stop whining. This is the internet, if something upsets you- scroll past it, ignore it or log off. The resident liberals post upsetting things here all the time like jewish hate, false IA screen shots, "Later Fag" graphic, gay sex penetration to just name a few and you dont see the other good members here always whining, crying and complaining. Just because someone else is mad, doesnt mean they are right. Druff- You should ignore these people, just like you ignore most of my phone tests, LOL. Do the exact same thing- just ignore them.

So I'd still be having the uncomfortable conversations about why I allow these things on my site. And I'd still be giving the same "free speech" answer I always give. But it feels shitty whenever this happens, and I don't love thinking about what these people must say to other players behind my back.

But thats your choice here to operate such a site and now youre trying to publicly shame desertrunner and put 100% of the crap posts on him. You have multiple good members here telling you that Sonatine ruins the PFA experience for all of us. And the whole removal of the N word here was not from DR either.

I am not saying that I'm going to additionally censor the forum. As you've seen, I've even allowed blatantly anti-Semitic shit to stay up here, despite being Jewish myself. I prefer to respond to that sort of ridiculous crap and debunk it, rather than censor it.

But you have been additionally censoring it recently, but not Soantine. Thats what The Boz is trying to tell you.

And yes, lots of people besides you -- including members here who vote Democrat -- also post offensive things which can make me and/or the site look bad.

THANK YOU, finally on to the real problem here.

The offensiveness of this community dates all the way back to the 2004 NWP days, and in fact the modern version on PFA pales in comparison to the shit that used to go on. But it's a different time with different standards, and the bottom line is that it's my name ultimately connected with this site.

This has nothing to do with desertrunner.

My point is that the free speech nature of this site has long been a thorn in my side reputation-wise, but I've dealt with it because I believe in running a forum with minimal censorship. It's absurd that you think my banning a few guys you dislike will change that for me, especially when you are one of the biggest offenders regarding posting things which people would find objectionable.

Actually NO. The resident liberals here act like the liberals in real life- they attack anyone who disagrees with them and on here they just constantly complain to you because they know if they do, you will have to publicly shame and discipline me and you award their continuous bad behavior by not addressing it. This is why multiple members here complain about Sonatine, he does his BS and you let it slide and its always "desertrunner's fault".

holy shit, just look at this faggot shit.

[1dollarboxcar]

^^^holy fuck...this is worse than trying to defend the empty airplane post from newark to lv....^^^

[sonatine]

Who cares if people get upset?? Tell them to stop whining.

find me a post where this mong isnt whining and upset

[Dan Druff]

desertrunner, I think the problem here is that you seem to believe you know this forum and the poker community better than I do.

I know exactly why people find content on this forum offensive. While much of it has nothing to do with you (and in fact a lot predates your participation here), you are refusing to understand that some of your content fits exactly into that box.

This isn't for you or me to decide. I'm telling you what I hear from people at the WSOP and other live cardrooms. Nobody has specifically mentioned you, but I have been confronted many times regarding the "threads about black people" and similar content. You might feel justified to post such threads, but that doesn't change how a lot of people receive them. I don't understand why you keep lecturing that this sort of thing isn't affecting my reputation, when it definitely is.

And yes, there are definitely both racist and anti-Semitic accounts on X. Their posted rules don't matter, as they're enforced extremely unevenly. I understand their lax enforcement of this to some extent, as Elon seeks to have a mostly free speech platform, as do I here. But there's definitely known racist accounts on X, and you've posted content from some of them.

Here's my entire point:

If all of your posts were completely inoffensive and non-controversial, and you complained that some of the trolls here are ruining my reputation by posting content which causes some in poker to get upset, I'd understand. I still wouldn't change anything here, but I'd understand your point.

However, YOU are just as guilty with the offensive postings as the most provocative posters here. If I were to "clean up" PFA like you claim I should do, I would also have to ban you. That's the point I'm trying to make here.

[sonatine]

maybe it would help if you told desertrunner that people at WSOP have complained to you about content on this forum?

[The Boz]

maybe it would help if you told desertrunner that people at WSOP have complained to you about content on this forum?

Still human garbage and until proven otherwise you sucked Druff’s cock.

Prove me wrong, you can’t.

Like Druff says about DR.

[Sloppy Joe]

desertrunner, I think the problem here is that you seem to believe you know this forum and the poker community better than I do.

I know exactly why people find content on this forum offensive. While much of it has nothing to do with you (and in fact a lot predates your participation here), you are refusing to understand that some of your content fits exactly into that box.

This isn't for you or me to decide. I'm telling you what I hear from people at the WSOP and other live cardrooms. Nobody has specifically mentioned you, but I have been confronted many times regarding the "threads about black people" and similar content. You might feel justified to post such threads, but that doesn't change how a lot of people receive them. I don't understand why you keep lecturing that this sort of thing isn't affecting my reputation, when it definitely is.

And yes, there are definitely both racist and anti-Semitic accounts on X. Their posted rules don't matter, as they're enforced extremely unevenly. I understand their lax enforcement of this to some extent, as Elon seeks to have a mostly free speech platform, as do I here. But there's definitely known racist accounts on X, and you've posted content from some of them.

Here's my entire point:

If all of your posts were completely inoffensive and non-controversial, and you complained that some of the trolls here are ruining my reputation by posting content which causes some in poker to get upset, I'd understand. I still wouldn't change anything here, but I'd understand your point.

However, YOU are just as guilty with the offensive postings as the most provocative posters here. If I were to "clean up" PFA like you claim I should do, I would also have to ban you. That's the point I'm trying to make here.

Time for an autism containment thread where you merge all.of these posts and his responses, might help his retarded mind to see it in one place.

Interspersed with fire trucks etc.

[The Boz]

Sloppy sent me cock pics by PM, no clue if they were his or not, but please stop it.

Druff prove me wrong.

[ftpjesus]

maybe it would help if you told desertrunner that people at WSOP have complained to you about content on this forum?

in truth I dont know Druff would give any complaints by leftist clowns at the WSOP. Most of them "offended" are the same types who would and probably did post nasty shit about Charlie Kirks murder here in AZ last week. oh and Shout out to Jimmy Kimmel who officially joined the ranks of FAFO and was fired by ABC today.

HE made one very

[sonatine]

maybe it would help if you told desertrunner that people at WSOP have complained to you about content on this forum?

in truth I dont know Druff would give any complaints by leftist clowns at the WSOP. Most of them "offended" are the same types who would and probably did post nasty shit about Charlie Kirks murder here in AZ last week. oh and Shout out to Jimmy Kimmel who officially joined the ranks of FAFO and was fired by ABC today.

HE made one very

or you could read the thread and get the joke, thats an option too

[lol wow]

bro is that witty dong game on fleek? i mean thank you for your service senor

[lol wow]

tine literally getting druff cancelled while also undergoing leg heightening surgery is the heat that 2025 needs to close out

[sonatine]

tine literally getting druff cancelled while also undergoing leg heightening surgery is the heat that 2025 needs to close out

i just want to have a normal drivers license that says i dont need to tie boxes to my feet to reach the pedals. i want to experience that once.

[lol wow]

also can you do better at fantasy football i need you not last

[sonatine]

also can you do better at fantasy football i need you not last

im rope-a-doping


also i tried using claude to help me make picks and after it was graded a fucking F i was like 'are you fucking serious' and its response was basically 'lol yeah i totally fucked you, my bad playboy'

[lol wow]

claude couldn't anticipate the high stakes suuuuuuuuuuuuper important forum politics battles you had on your plate you gotta let him know beforehand