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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Maduro floods our country with drugs and human garbage like this. The least we should do is take all their oil in response.
    Who you got on deck after Venezuela? Mexico? I hear talk we are thinking of making some kinda incursion.

    We gotta play the hot hand right? This is exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump has brokered talks between Putin and Zelensky, and they will occur shortly.

    Book it.
    Im perplexed how people still, for a lack of a better term, play the mental gymnastics game about how Trump is going to somehow solve this and the war will stop and everyone will be happy.

    He said he was going to do it from day one, and he didn't do it. I KNEW he wasn't going to do it long before the time came. Why? Because I've studied a little history on Russia over the years.

    He could have done it as well. Many of his associates over the years even told him as much, but you know, he fired them because he didn't like what they had to say. He does not understand any of the politics/ideology/mindset and he is out of his element. He doesn't understand how they think - at all. I'm not claiming I know everything, but good grief, some of this is not that hard to calculate in my book.

    If some "deal" is miraculously reached and the war "stops", I can guarantee you that it is simply a bandaid that is going to ultimately fall off. It will only have given Russia time to replenish.

    Putin wants all of Ukraine. And he wants more. This has been his goal/long game for many years - since the end of the cold war. Plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    It would be tragic if Trump succeeds in stealing Maduro's oil.

    Venezuela has enough oil to create an oil rich socialist utopia. We sanction the fuck out of them to prevent this.
    We can't have a country critical of Israel escape crippling poverty.

    Here's Trump's other gift to the oil and gas industry.
    Every American household will pay much more.
    Your an idiot Orko ya know that. Venezuela was rich as hell before Chavez took a dump on it. Oh the oil money is making some rich problem is its Maduro and his family. His daughter is worth $4B how the fuck do you think that happens. Typical oligarchy communists. Let the proletariat starve the fuck to death and tell them they are sacrificing for the greater good of the country while that fucker sucks the country dry like a financial vampire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump has brokered talks between Putin and Zelensky, and they will occur shortly.

    Book it.
    Im perplexed how people still, for a lack of a better term, play the mental gymnastics game about how Trump is going to somehow solve this and the war will stop and everyone will be happy.

    He said he was going to do it from day one, and he didn't do it. I KNEW he wasn't going to do it long before the time came. Why? Because I've studied a little history on Russia over the years.

    He could have done it as well. Many of his associates over the years even told him as much, but you know, he fired them because he didn't like what they had to say. He does not understand any of the politics/ideology/mindset and he is out of his element. He doesn't understand how they think - at all. I'm not claiming I know everything, but good grief, some of this is not that hard to calculate in my book.

    If some "deal" is miraculously reached and the war "stops", I can guarantee you that it is simply a bandaid that is going to ultimately fall off. It will only have given Russia time to replenish.

    Putin wants all of Ukraine. And he wants more. This has been his goal/long game for many years - since the end of the cold war. Plain and simple.
    He was excellent at foreign policy during his first term.

    Everything he did worked out.

    He's actually very good at talking to ego-driven dictators, stroking them off, and then getting them to let their guard down. It would not surprise me if he actually got Zelenskyy and Putin to talk, and if that were to lead to some kind of agreement where both sides could claim a form of victory and end the whole thing.

    Many of the "experts" often overthink foreign policy situations, and end up becoming either too predictable or suggest actions which are a combination of weak and adversarial. It's the foreign policy equivalent of poker's fancy play syndrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post

    Im perplexed how people still, for a lack of a better term, play the mental gymnastics game about how Trump is going to somehow solve this and the war will stop and everyone will be happy.

    He said he was going to do it from day one, and he didn't do it. I KNEW he wasn't going to do it long before the time came. Why? Because I've studied a little history on Russia over the years.

    He could have done it as well. Many of his associates over the years even told him as much, but you know, he fired them because he didn't like what they had to say. He does not understand any of the politics/ideology/mindset and he is out of his element. He doesn't understand how they think - at all. I'm not claiming I know everything, but good grief, some of this is not that hard to calculate in my book.

    If some "deal" is miraculously reached and the war "stops", I can guarantee you that it is simply a bandaid that is going to ultimately fall off. It will only have given Russia time to replenish.

    Putin wants all of Ukraine. And he wants more. This has been his goal/long game for many years - since the end of the cold war. Plain and simple.
    He was excellent at foreign policy during his first term.

    Everything he did worked out.


    He's actually very good at talking to ego-driven dictators, stroking them off, and then getting them to let their guard down. It would not surprise me if he actually got Zelenskyy and Putin to talk, and if that were to lead to some kind of agreement where both sides could claim a form of victory and end the whole thing.

    Many of the "experts" often overthink foreign policy situations, and end up becoming either too predictable or suggest actions which are a combination of weak and adversarial. It's the foreign policy equivalent of poker's fancy play syndrome.
    So, he got the wall built and Mexico paid for it?
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    @Orko

    Our favorite oil rich utopia is Norway and the population is reputedly getting sloppy and lazy. Maybe being $37 trillion in debt is character building

    Regime change from Trump. I’m verklempt. Tell Druff Trump version 1.0 never woulda

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    if its related to putin convincing trump that bolton was a russian agent, pretty sure we are cooked.
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    btw if someone offered me an appropriate line id put money on trump embedding US forces with the russians on the ukraine front because ukraine refused to turn itself into an industrial theme park for US mining concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump has brokered talks between Putin and Zelensky, and they will occur shortly.

    Book it.
    Im perplexed how people still, for a lack of a better term, play the mental gymnastics game about how Trump is going to somehow solve this and the war will stop and everyone will be happy.

    He said he was going to do it from day one, and he didn't do it. I KNEW he wasn't going to do it long before the time came. Why? Because I've studied a little history on Russia over the years.

    He could have done it as well. Many of his associates over the years even told him as much, but you know, he fired them because he didn't like what they had to say. He does not understand any of the politics/ideology/mindset and he is out of his element. He doesn't understand how they think - at all. I'm not claiming I know everything, but good grief, some of this is not that hard to calculate in my book.

    If some "deal" is miraculously reached and the war "stops", I can guarantee you that it is simply a bandaid that is going to ultimately fall off. It will only have given Russia time to replenish.

    Putin wants all of Ukraine. And he wants more. This has been his goal/long game for many years - since the end of the cold war. Plain and simple.
    its funny but you claim to not know everything while basically claiming you know everything because you studied a little Russian history over the years. I know you have actual TDS because as our president is making real efforts to find solutions to serious problems you still can't find a way not to sound like everything he does is wrong.

    He's his own person and does things his own way but he's making an effort. As a citizen of this country don't you feel like you should be offering your silence if not your full support for the one person in the world who is trying to stop the death and destruction?

    Its ok to make fun of Trump and to hate him or this or that policy but when it comes to making peace we should all be on the same side. You do want the war to end, right? It's not Trump's fault the war hasn't ended. There has to be willing people on all sides.

    As for him saying he'd have the issue solved in 24 hours yes he said it and no it didn't happen. Everyone knows this. Its a little lame to keep reminding people of something everyone knows. You ever say you were gonna do something and fail? Did that one failure make you quit or keep trying? Patriotic people want peace and appreciate anyone making an effort towards that.

    Also, you questioned my service to the country because we don't see eye to eye on this subject. You doing this went too far in furtherance of some point you wanted to make. Here you're trying to place all the blame on Trump for the war having not yet ended.

    You're so well versed in Russian studies why do you offer us such trash in your analysis of a very complex situation by laying the blame only at the feet of Trump?

     
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    https://twitter.com/DrLoupis__/status/1958902176916386135


    the comments are just like this, one after the other. good.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    https://twitter.com/DrLoupis__/status/1958902176916386135


    the comments are just like this, one after the other. good.
    This isn’t even particularly newsworthy imo. It’s the weaponization of the Justice that was begun in earnest with Biden. Trump is embracing the idea fully.

    Tbf Biden went after Trump for documents and Trump is attacking his personal enemy similarly.

    The EoT crowd is growing and its constituents understand we are never turning back from gangster government.

    We move on.

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    Well I wouldn’t have guessed this one.

    Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    https://twitter.com/DrLoupis__/status/1958902176916386135


    the comments are just like this, one after the other. good.
    This isn’t even particularly newsworthy imo. It’s the weaponization of the Justice that was begun in earnest with Biden.


    ok boomer.
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    Donald Trump has negotiated the removal of "South" from South America.

    States with the prefix "New" are rumored to be on the short list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump has brokered talks between Putin and Zelensky, and they will occur shortly.

    Book it.
    Im perplexed how people still, for a lack of a better term, play the mental gymnastics game about how Trump is going to somehow solve this and the war will stop and everyone will be happy.

    He said he was going to do it from day one, and he didn't do it. I KNEW he wasn't going to do it long before the time came. Why? Because I've studied a little history on Russia over the years.

    He could have done it as well. Many of his associates over the years even told him as much, but you know, he fired them because he didn't like what they had to say. He does not understand any of the politics/ideology/mindset and he is out of his element. He doesn't understand how they think - at all. I'm not claiming I know everything, but good grief, some of this is not that hard to calculate in my book.

    If some "deal" is miraculously reached and the war "stops", I can guarantee you that it is simply a bandaid that is going to ultimately fall off. It will only have given Russia time to replenish.

    Putin wants all of Ukraine. And he wants more. This has been his goal/long game for many years - since the end of the cold war. Plain and simple.
    Russia holds 5% of world military power.
    NATO holds 60% of world military power.

    Russia would be a mouse trying to kick an elephants ass if it tried to invade NATO. And the russians know it. They are not stupid people. No chance russia would ever invade a NATO country. But it makes for great fear mongering by those with ulterior motives.
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