Vegas is Struggling in 2025

[desertrunner]

The biggest problem with unions on the Vegas strip is that it's completely dominated by one union -- The Culinary Workers Union Local 226.

Druff- How is this a "problem"? At first, I was- that's a very large organization. But hey, there's strength in numbers. It sends a message to the corporations that they cant screw with and Nazi dank the labor force. How is this bad?? It makes the bargaining table fair and equal for BOTH sides.

This megaunion has 60,000 members, and despite the name implying it's just food service workers, it also includes maids, laundry service employees, hotel front desk workers, waiters, dishwashers, bellmen, and most other service positions you find in Vegas casino-hotels.

Correct. Nothing wrong with this.

Therefore, when they strike, the strip gets crippled. Everything grinds to a halt, which is devastating for both tourists and the local economy.

Good tactic and it works. Again, this brings equal and fair treatment to the bargain table for both sides. The large corporations should think twice before screwing over the labor force there. The workers get a voice and be heard, just like when Druff calls customer service or management to complain, request and bargain- a fair and equal system for him and the union workers. Muzzling the union would be the same as silencing Druff and we cant have that.

This union has far too much power. Basically they've learned that the big corporate owners can't afford the effects of a Culinary Union strike..

How do you gauge "too much power"? Who is crashing and ruining Las Vegas right now...Who is charging the Resort Fees- Corporate management and the greedy CEOs, not the unions at all. Who is getting lay off notices in Las Vegas- the union service workers. Who is losing their homes to foreclosure- the union service workers. Sorry Druff, you only have one-sided blinders on and drank alot of the anti-union Kool Aid. Right now, the gredy corporations are crashing Las Vegas.

...so it becomes a game where the union announces they're going to strike, makes outrageous demands, and then "compromises" to accept a lesser improvement in pay/benefits/conditions.

Are you making this up or speaking in general lay person anti-union?? How often have you actually seen this scenario? What I am guessing is that contract talks break down at the table, then the union goes on strike, they return back to the table and meet and confer on a contract. Druff- I think you sensationalized it a bit there. Add- The union does NOT want to go on strike and does everything they can to avoid it. They give management many chances at the table before making this decision.

The union is constantly assessing how much extra they can squeeze out of the corporations, and they turn the screws until they get it.

Druff, put down the Kool-Aid. I strongly disagree. I think management and the union go to the bargaining table once the prior contract ends. Both sides "met and confer" for a final agreement. Usually these 2 or 3 year contracts adjust for a COLA, better work conditions, uniforms, breaks, retirement, deferred comp/401k matching, parking, etc. If the two sides cant agree to a realistic contract, then it goes to an arbitrator. Again, unless you've actually been in a union and seen the internal workings, you wouldnt know.

This is very bad for Vegas, and in fact is some of the factor which has pushed up prices.

I disagree. Any examples? This is GOOD for Vegas as the good loyal employees stay on for long careers and become assets to the company and the gaming industry. Union memberships also retracts high caliber workers vs the lazy high turnover types. Who's currently pushing up prices in Vegas, its NOT the union workers, its the greedy hotel management and CEOs trying to get their 7 figure executive bonuses.

Come on Druff, out down the Kool-Aid, you should know better with these silly statement.

[lol wow]

yo this nigga loves kool aid

[limitles]

Never forget

"On August 5, 1981 following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work,the Reagan administration fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order,[13][14] and banned them from federal service for life. In the wake of the strike and mass firings, the FAA was faced with the difficult task of hiring and training enough controllers to replace those who had been fired. Under normal conditions, it took three years to train new controllers"

There seems to be a trend with these celebrity turned politician types.

They are bigger than life, (he was on the TV) dumb as a dogs and attract the lower echelon.

This administration is so deeply bent on power that it does not
recognize that failure comes from within. All who are tasked with presenting falsehoods are a ticking time bomb.

Step one suppress or discredit any opposition.
The press. Fake news. Done

Step two. Challenge the rule of law.
If you seek unchecked authority you cannot function with
an independent judiciary. Ongoing

Step three is almost a throw away. Your elected representative
finds it in their best interest to fall in line.

It's a sick world. The only saving grace is that it is ever changing. The "bad" has it's moment in time. Subjective of course.

Authoritarianism is ultimately vulnerable. All for one and.....that's it? One for all is the missing piece. All for one and one for all defeated Nazi Germany. The gold standard of dictatorships lasted a decade?
The push back will be something to watch.

Another thought. Listen to interviews of German civilians under Hitler. Most of them had no clue, lived in fear and\or were delusional.

Here's the punchline. You morons are being led around by a psychopath, a criminal, a " leader" who not only ignores the most needy he targets them.

[desertrunner]

I didn't say anything about layoffs, I was addressing your wrong assertion that unions prevent turnover. Why would Apple fire a well educated, highly skilled, hard working dedicated employee? That doesn't sound like a way to run a highly successful company like Apple. If they lay off underperforming employees, who cares, going by what you say below that's perfectly fine with you.

I dont think Apple is a good example as they have had layoff's in the past. I also know they have had a lot of turnover at their Sacramento, CA factory location. Right now, Tech is laying off hundreds to thousands in Arizona and California. And YES, unions do prevent employee turnover by getting good contracts that offer good pay and benefits.

What exactly am I twisting? That the Union Steward and mail carrier who happens to be one of my closest childhood friends hosted a regular poker night, often attended by other mail carriers? That during these games, they would casually joke about finishing their routes in 4 to 5 hours while still getting paid for 8.5? Or their favorite trick: if they were hungover or just didn’t feel like working that day, they would show up to sort the mail in the morning, then head home without delivering a thing, leaving it all for the next day’s route.
I can give you intimate details about my other claims, but why bother you'll just hand wave them away because they don't it your agenda. Ask me how I would know a plant in Brampton Ontario full Of CEP union members closed 20 years ago and is still operational today in Lexington Kentucky staffed by non union workers.

Sorry, your personal experience in Canada does not set the standard for all unions. I'm just not interested here.

And what happens when the union constantly files grievances anytime a warning is given and when a grievance hearing is held they insist it gets rescinded or they will escalate union action or ask for arbitration hearings? Now what? I know this because I attended up to 10 of these a month. Pretty sure everyone is well aware of union employees caught exhibiting very bad behaviour wh who were defended successfully by their union. I can cite several examples if you'd like.

Sorry, but your personal bias stories from Canada have nothing to do with this topic.

Except that's not how it works. Union means seniority takes precedence. You think a union will allow a 25 year employee to be laid off while the company retains someone with 6 months service?

This is just some random question. Nothing to do with Las Vegas or my experience.

The point is, if your labor costs start being uncontrollable due to idiotic laws or unrealistic demands, companies will look for ways to trim and replace their workforce to save money.

True. This has nothing to do with the union in Las Vegas. Politicians write the laws, not unions.

I see so when casinos keep raising prices to help pay these higher wages you're 100% on board correct? Remember no complaining about how expensive Vegas is, this is what you wanted.

The casinos were raising prices to make up for the Covid losses and executive management greed. Nothing to do with unions.

Hmmmm is In N Out unionized? No? Imagine that.

Correct, In N Out is not union and I knew that when I posted it. The point was In N Out adapted a certain service model that mirrors a union contract. INO did this to attract and keep labor and dodge the dreaded 25% production loss with the other failed non-union model.

[desertrunner]

"[I]On August 5, 1981 following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work,the Reagan administration fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order,[13][14] and banned them from federal service for life.

My opinion- That ATC workers should have never striked and showed up for work. They played it wrong and lost. But then, the federal gov also got screwed and should have handled it better too. 3 years is along time to recruit, onboard, background check, outfit and train new controllers. Again, its always "cheaper to keep her" and Reagan should have gone back to the bargaining table with the tower people.


Quick note on the large service member's union in Las Vegas- If they didnt have the union, the labor force there would be weak and crumble this leading to the casino/hotels failing. No union there- no casino/hotels and no WSOP. And if the casinos/hotels fail, the whole town fails and we go back to 1945 dust bowl Las Vegas. The city and entire region needs the labor union or the whole gaming industry there would collapse. No one would want to work in Las Vegas for crappy pay and wages. The state of Nevada figured this out decades ago, that's why they allowed unions into the state of the whole state would resemble today's New Mexico.

[limitles]

"[I]On August 5, 1981 following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work,the Reagan administration fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order,[13][14] and banned them from federal service for life.

My opinion- That ATC workers should have never striked and showed up for work. They played it wrong and lost. But then, the federal gov also got screwed and should have handled it better too. 3 years is along time to recruit, onboard, background check, outfit and train new controllers. Again, its always "cheaper to keep her" and Reagan should have gone back to the bargaining table with the tower people.


Quick note on the large service member's union in Las Vegas- If they didnt have the union, the labor force there would be weak and crumble this leading to the casino/hotels failing. No union there- no casino/hotels and no WSOP. And if the casinos/hotels fail, the whole town fails and we go back to 1945 dust bowl Las Vegas. The city and entire region needs the labor union or the whole gaming industry there would collapse. No one would want to work in Las Vegas for crappy pay and wages. The state of Nevada figures this out decades ago, thats why they allowed unions into the state of the whole state would resemble today's New Mexico.

It's not that complicated. Return on investment rules. There is no moral standard that produces billionaires. Democracy is a shell of it's origins
Too many are too comfortable and look away.
A two party system becomes a controlled democracy.
You are either the elected representative or the elected opposition.
Job security guaranteed. The benefits for the elected or the opposition are cumulative. There is no incentive for change.

The irony. Trump appointed billionaire Elon Musk was tasked with
over seeing publicly funded institutions. These institutions are not profit and loss endeavors. The elected are trusted to support all.
It's not happening. The weak, the poor, the less fortunate have few resources to fight back. Unions, remember them, they fought. Where are they now? A union can't survive a Presidential decree
throwing thousands to the unemployment line.

Democracy. Presidential authority. Lines are crossed.

[The Boz]

Oops, June gaming revenue UP 3.5% from June 24.

How is this possible with all the doom and gloom stories from online grifters??? But the strip is “empty”, “millions” are there anymore, etc.

Perhaps, just perhaps it’s the non gamblers on limited budgets not visiting?

Who knows but I’ll still argue the reports of the demise of Vegas aren’t totally correct or even honest.

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/vegas...n-citys-demise

https://gaming.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/...-arrevenue.pdf

[Dive_Bar_Dave]

Boz, you seem to be the only guy on the planet who thinks Vegas is doing great. Good for you.

Anyway, another report:

[The Boz]

Boz, you seem to be the only guy on the planet who thinks Vegas is doing great. Good for you.

Anyway, another report:

Never said its doing “great” and pointed out some of the issues, mainly F&B pricing.

But I do feel, as I have said many times it’s being overblown by grifters and others for clicks and profits.

We went through this in 01 after 9/11 and 07 after the financial crisis. It always bounced back and I still believe it will again quickly. It may take some adjustment by the casinos, but the gaming number shows it isn’t happening anytime soon. Other than desperate properties like Resort World, which has never made money, trying a few gimmicks. And Resorts World is never the first choice of the general Vegas tourist.

I’ll trust Derek Stevens, even with his obvious bias, over some clown on YouTube thinking he’s an “influencer”. Let’s give it a few more months to see how Vegas is doing compared to overall travel and tourism spending along with general consumer spending.

On a side note, I’m still shocked someone as intelligent as you seems to be giving these grifters money by viewing their videos and even sharing them.

[limitles]

The reporting of a down turn to an economy benefits no one.
Vegas is among many tourist reliant communities dealing with
reduced visitations.
Small business enterprises are the first to suffer

Ok I'll say it. The downturn is directly related to the policies of your federal government

Stay tuned for cost of living and stock market indexes and unemployment rates

Ultimately the Trump error, not era, will be traced to the increased cost of Doritos Cool Ranch Party Pak

What is verified is reduced commerce. No one outside U.S. tourist destinations gives a shit. Example...every dollar not thrown away at a blackjack table is a positive
Small business pays no attention to misinformation. It's meaningless

Consider Vegas as a microcosm.
One of your best customers has decided to end the relationship.
Also, friends of your former best customer are also on board.
Vegas or any destination deemed unfriendly is soon forgotten

Tariff tangent. Tariffs are paid by the importer.
The importing company has a dilemma. They can ask for a wholesale price reduction, ha ha, increase their retail costs or just go out of business. This is a tangent because everyone outside dumbfuck America realizes this is an attack on our economies
Anyone fucking with our economy will face the consequences
Why spend discretionary income in a hostile environment.
Hostile indeed. These tariffs result higher consumer costs and unemployment. There's your answer to decreased tourism
deal with it morons

[The Boz]

The reporting of a down turn to an economy benefits no one.
Vegas is among many tourist reliant communities dealing with
reduced visitations.
Small business enterprises are the first to suffer

Ok I'll say it. The downturn is directly related to the policies of your federal government

Stay tuned for cost of living and stock market indexes and unemployment rates

Ultimately the Trump error, not era, will be traced to the increased cost of Doritos Cool Ranch Party Pak

What is verified is reduced commerce. No one outside U.S. tourist destinations gives a shit. Example...every dollar not thrown away at a blackjack table is a positive
Small business pays no attention to misinformation. It's meaningless

Consider Vegas as a microcosm.
One of your best customers has decided to end the relationship.
Also, friends of your former best customer are also on board.
Vegas or any destination deemed unfriendly is soon forgotten

Jesus Christ Les, nothing of truth there. You are (almost) as dumb as Sonatine. At least you have an excuse.

Meanwhile the economy has never been better after surviving 4 years of failed liberal policies.

[limitles]

The reporting of a down turn to an economy benefits no one.
Vegas is among many tourist reliant communities dealing with
reduced visitations.
Small business enterprises are the first to suffer

Ok I'll say it. The downturn is directly related to the policies of your federal government

Stay tuned for cost of living and stock market indexes and unemployment rates

Ultimately the Trump error, not era, will be traced to the increased cost of Doritos Cool Ranch Party Pak

What is verified is reduced commerce. No one outside U.S. tourist destinations gives a shit. Example...every dollar not thrown away at a blackjack table is a positive
Small business pays no attention to misinformation. It's meaningless

Consider Vegas as a microcosm.
One of your best customers has decided to end the relationship.
Also, friends of your former best customer are also on board.
Vegas or any destination deemed unfriendly is soon forgotten

Jesus Christ Les, nothing of truth there. You are (almost) as dumb as Sonatine. At least you have an excuse.

Meanwhile the economy has never been better after surviving 4 years of failed liberal policies.

If you equate today's stock market indexes to the health of local economies you are stunned. Get ready because the stock market has not yet reacted to Donnie's latest tariff declaration
Read a book and then shove it up ass so your cellmate can access it.
fuck-up

[The Boz]

Give us all more of your economic wisdom drunk!

Face it, that “fat bitch” yesterday is still laughing at your 2007 Honda. If only she knew the truth she wouldn’t laugh because your life, self admittedly, isn’t funny, it’s just SAD!

Hiding the misery behind drugs and alcohol is no way to go through life. Even in Shitanada.

[limitles]

Sorry if I embarrassed you regarding economics
Telling that you avoid the topic
Trumpy bitch points to "over there" when speechless
so Florida

how many drains have you cleared today?

[The Boz]

Sorry if I embarrassed you regarding economics
Telling that you avoid the topic
Trumpy bitch points to "over there" when speechless
so Florida

how many drains have you cleared today?

Because your stupid theories make zero sense. Like Sonatine, it’s jealousy and wishful thinking because you hate Trump so much.

Besides, it’s far more fun to make fun of a pathetic drunk junkie killing himself in front of our eyes while living in a 3rd world shithole. Good shit Les, good shit!

[desertrunner]

Because your stupid theories make zero sense. Like Sonatine, it’s jealousy and wishful thinking because you hate Trump so much.

Spot on.

[Dan Druff]

I never trusted these cruise ship waterslides. Some even hang right over the ocean (fortunately this one didn't!)

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[Orko]

Private equity is behind all this financial turmoil and it's not just Las Vegas, it's everywhere.

Allowing these Wall Street sleazeballs the ability plunder and place every business imaginable in crippling debt must end.

Listen to Warren Buffet ffs A total fraud owns everything.

[Dive_Bar_Dave]

Todd Druff Witteles discussed this topic on his secret overnight radio show. Curious what he said. I will wait for the arCHIVES.

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