where is @BCR ??

[gut]

We go through this exact same stuff about 1-2 times a year when the resident liberals here get angry and their only outlet here is to attack the other members and then that doesnt work, they go crying to Druff complaining about desertrunner. And then Druff has to publicly shame me to make them feel better and then they get their feelings hurt again and the cycle starts all over again. This is nothing new.

Holy fuck you are retarded. Cimmple might be more cogent than you.

Well, I'm glad BCR at least dropped an explanation.

To answer his (and other people's) questions as to why I haven't banned or restricted desertrunner...

It's not a reluctance to have to put energy into dealing with the fallout of banning him. If you recall, I banned him once before (and it stuck for a long time). Many predicted a SixToedPete Part Deux. That didn't happen. Instead, I explained privately why I banned him, he said he disagreed but understood, and the friendship went on as if none of this ever occurred. Which is what I expected, to be honest. I've known him 15 years, and never once observed any kind of psychotic or stalkerish behavior -- towards me or anybody. In real life, he's a nice guy with a good heart.

So if I'm not concerned about the fallout, why haven't I banned him?

As I've stated before, he brings content and discussion topics. If you scroll through this subforum, you'll see that some get serious engagement, while others get ignored. But overall his thread creation has been a net positive.

What hasn't been a net positive is his disdain for the old school NWP/DD/PFA community (which is why this subforum exists at all), and his instant reflex to attack any critics as "liberals". This especially makes no sense because many of the people criticizing him are either middle of the road politically, or even right wing. Some good examples include Tellafriend, gut, and go_buccos. None of those three guys are liberal. All three of them are also intelligent.

I will be making a decision soon regarding what to do about desertrunner here. It upsets me that BCR has left, and that others are on the verge of leaving. As I said on the radio show, it exists for the listeners, not for me. Same with the forum, for the most part. While my own enjoyment of the forum is obviously important, I actually find it more important that the lurkers and posters enjoy it. It's true that desertrunner has far more critics than supporters -- and these critics are unhappy about his posting style/frequency, not his opinions.

desertrunner, I have to say that if you completely disregard what the forum community as a whole says, and if you look at the "old school posters" with complete disdain, you're going to end up banned here. That's not what I want, but that's what is going to happen. This community has existed for 21+ years over 3 different sites, with PFA comprising over 13 of those years. I can't let one person run everyone off, even if he's my personal friend.

So now your retarded friend might help get twitter money, so kill the forum otherwise?

Holy fuck how did you get to this point?

DRUFF COVER THIS ON RADIO NOWWWW!!!!

[country978]

Country nailed it.

Examples- So many members, posts and threads here I just ignore and scroll past. Now what does Sonatine do- He see a posts by me, doesnt join the discussion and just posts up some self generated IA result screen shot about "desertrunner" and the left side say nothing.

Right now on the good side- we have about 7 people- tgull, garrett, country978, TheBoz, Split, FrankRizzo, FTJesus and desertrunner. NONE of these good members attack others or cause problems here.

Bad side- Sonatine, BCR, Sloppy Joe, Jayjami and TellaFriend- All seem hell bent on causing problems in here. Lets he honest, they purposely go after me because I call them out on their crap.

Me- If I ran a board or a business, I would want to remove the cancer and problem makers in my arena. And we have had this discussion so many times, yet its the same old problem people making the problems in here. But the other SEVEN people here dont complaint at all. Funny how its so obvious and all shakes down. Once the liberals take over this board again, its all over and will be like 2+2.

Lastly- The 3/4 cencer members here always start these new "alarm threads" to get Druff's attention, complain about desertrunner and bait him into banning me. Druff- dont fall for the liberal crybaby tactics and take the bait.

LOL Druff continuing to get humiliated by his pet retard but the entertainment of this dalliance has long run its course. If we're really doing another iteration of two autistic 50 year old navigating their relationship on an internet forum I'm out. Bye faggots.

 

garrett is god

bye sloppy joe. thanks for all the times you made me laugh and for always being decent towards me.

[desertrunner]

I've told Druff this several times, hope it happens. What Druff should do is update the old 2016 forum rules that are not being enforced now and then make the new rules apply to ALL members and equally enforce them. Then he has a safety net of- You were told the new rules, you got a clean slate and now you got strike 1,2 or 3, etc.

[gut]

I've told Druff this several times, hope it happens. What Druff should do is update the old 2016 forum rules that are not being enforced now and then make the new rules apply to ALL members and equally enforce them. Then he has a safety net of- You were told the new rules, you got a clean slate and now you got strike 1,2 or 3, etc.

Again, reminder, you provide nothing here that anyone with a brain cares about.

Literally, you just copy shit about things no one comes here for. You have been a giant net negative to this forum.

NEED DRUFF TO ADDRESS THIS ON RADIO

[tgull]

As long as BCR continues to participate in sports threads, im happy. I generally ignore the rest anyway.

Really, you just posted twice in my vacation thread. Interesting.

[desertrunner]

…….

[Tellafriend]

I've told Druff this several times, hope it happens. What Druff should do is update the old 2016 forum rules that are not being enforced now and then make the new rules apply to ALL members and equally enforce them. Then he has a safety net of- You were told the new rules, you got a clean slate and now you got strike 1,2 or 3, etc.

go fuck yourself.

[gut]

As long as BCR continues to participate in sports threads, im happy. I generally ignore the rest anyway.

Really, you just posted twice in my vacation thread. Interesting.

Was going to respond, but I got the sniffles and I better test for the cold.

BRB

Oh wait I'm not a faggot plumber. Nevermind

[zealanddonk]

Notice DR's weird hero fetish, that somehow the forums would die if Druff didnt get rid of all the "bad" users.

Yet more posters have said they dont care with DR's constant nonsense, bullshit and terrible posts, that he either doesnt understand or has to "hurr hurr, I didnt say that, its what someone else said hurr hurr"

Druff even states he needs DR to stop being a clown, and DR's immediate response is fuck you I'll keep posting nonsense.

Remember when 6toedpete, MWH, Fluffer [free Fluffer] and others did effectively the same thing?

[desertrunner]

Notice DR's weird hero fetish, that somehow the forums would die if Druff didnt get rid of all the "bad" users.

WRONG. we got about 11 members here that all act the same and then the regular 3 members here that keep acting retarded and annoying the whole board.

[Gordman]

Notice DR's weird hero fetish, that somehow the forums would die if Druff didnt get rid of all the "bad" users.

WRONG. we got about 11 members here that all act the same and then the regular 3 members here that keep acting retarded and annoying the whole board. They just keep going after me because Im a easy target.

They keep going after you because you are the most insufferable fucking retard to ever grace the forums. EVER.

You clearly have some mental health issues or whatever it is. Who knows what your problem is and who fucking cares at this point.

You have absolutely zero self awareness as to how fucking stupid you sound and act - just like the rest of your group, like mickey, boz, spit, $1retard, garrett, and a few others

Congrats Druff. This is what you created.

Todd, I dont hate you or anything like that and I think you're a good guy, but this shit is ridiculous, and frankly it's probably past the point it can be fixed.

Everyone warned in 100 different ways over the recent years that this was how it was going to more or less ultimately turn out with the garbage that has been attracted here.

And here we are.

[BCR]

We go through this exact same stuff about 1-2 times a year when the resident liberals here get angry and their only outlet here is to attack the other members and then that doesnt work, they go crying to Druff complaining about desertrunner. And then Druff has to publicly shame me to make them feel better and then they get their feelings hurt again and the cycle starts all over again. This is nothing new.

Let me explain this to you in a way your autistic brain can understand.

We were always aware Druff had another site. Most of us at one point looked at it, said wow that place is different, and we left it alone because it wasn’t for us and none of us had any interest in that shit. I didn’t show up and say this is the problem here and I’m going to fix it. Only an autistic ass does that.

As far as I know, no one from any of our sites disrupted it.

If I ever had posted there, I would feel the place out and post accordingly. I wouldn’t assume anyone there gives a fuck about anything over here and I would have no desire to disrupt the place. I would grasp I need to assimilate to the way they do shit, not vice versa. Provide value if the site interested me, but stay largely quiet until I had a true feel for how things worked. That’s how normal functioning adults join shit that is all ready established whether it be a community or company or club.


See, you and Boz and Mickey are the unwanted immigrants in this little analogy. Not the productive immigrants, but the shit ones here that come and now want to disrupt our already established culture and way of doing things because you had all ready destroyed your other site.

No one really wanted you at all.

Others have came over and blended flawlessly. A tella or Jeff Dime. I believe they posted at VCT first. They learned the language and flow and are now are just regulars.

But you three came over, failed to learn the language, failed to assimilate, felt you deserved some respect for being part of the other site when literally that AP shit is a low bottom life to most of us, and also think you can now dictate laws like some immigrants wanting to change the language to their native tongue tongue in some town they have taken over in California.

That’s not how it works. The onus is on the immigrant to prove they have some value to an already established community. Many did and now we claim them as our own. But you 3 have zero value whatsoever, are assholes who came with the wrong attitude like we gave a fuck about you, and now think you are going to dictate how shit is ran. So now like any community, if the undesirable newcomers aren’t dealt with properly and are allowed to take root and think they can run shit now, the original members of the community say fuck this and move elsewhere. That’s what has happened.

It’s shit now and probably too late to fix. We traded guys like Srsly and PLO for you. That’s like trading Ohtani and Judge for a kid who can’t even bunt in a little league game. Probably can’t even tie his own shoes and needs Velcro.

Other great members of the community are gone as more of these weird fuckers like Mickey and Boz moved here. There has been white flight of normally functioning adults as the white trash further entrenched themselves. This is why cities have zoning, but you just pulled up in your trailers and emptied your septic tank brains on our lawn.

So now you have this shitty echo chamber of idiots posting crappy links with no comment and weird old trash.

The fact this needs to be explained to you is why you’re social outcasts in constant conflict wherever you post.

I wasn’t advocating for you to be banned. That’s closing the barn door far too late. The time to ship all of you back who couldn’t assimilate was 2020 or 2021. Now you are here waving your white trash flags 24/7.

I was simply responding to Druff as to why I was losing interest as I have respect for him, but I don’t give a fuck about the rest of you idiots I mentioned and have no desire to engage in your idiocy. Like anyone normal, I just wish to avoid you.

Just banning you isn’t enough to fix the problem anyway.

But you have your retard site now that you so desperately wanted. The last normal people are packing up.

Run with it Forrest!

[The Boz]

As I said, he would be back.

It’s a big game behind the scenes threatening Druff to ban us. When that didn’t work he tried drawing attention to himself by not posting. Now it’s more of the same.

We don’t play that game but love seeing the 2 of them, not even sure Sloppy is involved, crying like the bitches they are.

Again, block those you do t agree with and the 2 of you can jack, I mean talk, back and forth.

At least until Sonatine’s fat ass drops and no one finds him for weeks. But yes, this place and him not posting might be the only reason he is eventually found. Along with the rent not being paid.

[FRANKRIZZO]

BCR reminded me I have to have my se[tic tank pumped loled at that line

[Tellafriend]

DD - if BCR is really gone, you will have many others of us close behind. you did this to all of us, pal. and i am sorry for that

[country978]

Notice DR's weird hero fetish, that somehow the forums would die if Druff didnt get rid of all the "bad" users.

WRONG. we got about 11 members here that all act the same and then the regular 3 members here that keep acting retarded and annoying the whole board.

desertrunner you cant speak for everyone. I really like all the members here and what they bring. Its been like reading a sit-com for me with all the personalities and events. Sloppyjoe, Sonatine and BCR have all at one time or another given me a hard time for something stupid I might've said or something they disagreed with. Who cares? Just please let it all slide and stop creating such huge dramas.

You should have read what bcr has to say. Nobody but you is going to be happy if he doesn't post here anymore.

[desertrunner]

desertrunner you cant speak for everyone. I really like all the members here and what they bring. Its been like reading a sit-com for me with all the personalities and events. Sloppyjoe, Sonatine and BCR have all at one time or another given me a hard time for something stupid I might've said or something they disagreed with. Who cares? Just please let it all slide and stop creating such huge dramas.

You should have read what bcr has to say. Nobody but you is going to be happy if he doesn't post here anymore.

Correct, I dont speak for everyone. After being here for 12 years, I just see the same 3 people posting shit here and it gets old. I dont even care to post in this thread anymore, but wanted to respond to you. BCR is too much immature high school drama for me.

[Tellafriend]

this is the problem. In less than 1 day since i posted this:

If anyone is running people off here, its the liberal retard with the IA program postings.


Then the dude has thin skin if thats the case. Learn to be tough on the internet.

Shut the fuck up Sonatine you run more new posters off more then anyone, you plaster this board all day with your non-sense people do not care about

Now Shut Up finally and Druff you should limit this idiot, plasters the bulletin all day everyday, with bullshit

Have a nice day!

G is 100% SPOT ON HERE. Sonatine ruins the PFA experience for everyone here, especially his pedo-like follow the member behavior, it gets fucking old.

TheBoz- Good member.
Garrett aka G Man- Good member.
JeffDime- Good member.
Mother Druff- Good member, but not that visible
Brutal Thinker- Good dude, just hates me.

BCR- Historically a crap libtard member here, but been cool lately.

Sonatine- A cancer to PFA and continues to tarnish Druff's poker reputation. Should ban him.

DanDruff- Probably ban him too, he stopped doing PDA radio, fail. He also still owes my free roll money, flake.

See here you go AGAIN

Vouching his nonsense post about a Suit or Tuxedo in Asia, or wherever the fuck . Druff it would be nice if you actually popped in half Sonatines garbage front board posts in Flying Stupidity, you clearly agree with his nonsense. Anyway Sonatine is a friend and must have staked you BIG time because you let him be an absolute disaster at the behest of your own reputation in poker, hes that fucking bad Druff. No one wonders who Sonatine is, or thinks can he even play poker, nothing hes a loser or a pet pocket buddy who just agrees with you, to make you feeel better. Either way its not good.

Have a nice day.

Damn, Garrett is 100% spot on correct here on all points. I wish Druff would take the proper corrective action as well. And YES, Sonatine is tarnishing Druff online poker reputation here.

Come on guys, let Druff live out his remaining months in his way.

We are all going to come together and admit we miss him when the day comes.

Pray for Druff!

i think the guy is an asshole myself (BCR) , if you express a different view other than his, he resorts to name calling and tries to degrade you, and he resorts to the name calling first in debate type situations, he definitely thinks he is never wrong and definitely thinks he's always right and proves this by calling you stupid... (typical Liberal) it seems to me the only people he gets along with are his "yes men".

Im glad you wrote this as I've been telling Druff for years that the libtards have been the problem on this board and he just doesnt believe me. Now more members are coming forward and saying the exaact same thing. Maybe Druff will take action now and save PFA.

This is also why I posted here two years ago that I suggest not allowing personal attacks as it kills any bulletin board. The new owners of 2+2 saw my post here and adapted that as a new policy, Druff even covered the topic on PFA radio. The 3 same people here constantly attacking the good members here will eventually kill the board, again. Time to remove the cancer.

2+2 is a ghost town, so that's not exactly a good example of how to run a forum.

Respectfully, but its not a ghost town because of that specific "no personal attack" policy, its dead because people are leaving bulletin boards and migrating over to Reddit, X, etc, as been written here before. Removing personal attacks also removed doxing and potential legal action. No one wants to be attacked online and it scares users away. PFA was dead about 1-2 years ago and then came back to life. Again, personal attacks kill a BBS, not help it bloom.

You are truly fucking insufferable.

When I said the EXACT SAME THING in response to you in a different thread you told me I was full of shit and that people were leaving here because of “the libtards.”

You can’t even keep your own story straight.

Yes, you did write that, but I know I did not say "full of shit" back to you. And yes, some people have left PFA because of the liberals and their constant antics here, I know this for fact. So we are both correct.

As for the actual topic- personal attacks do kill bulletin board systems, once people see others getting doxed, harassed, etc, they will leave.

About 1-2 years ago, I left his board and came back. When I came back, the Flying Stupidity section was dead. I specifically remember this because I was shocked to see it. And I know why- the crazy liberals here like Walt, etc were pissing off people and they were leaving. I stand by what I am saying because I'm not going to lie here. As the crazy libs leave this board, the more busier it becomes. Walt is gone, BCR is gone and the place is better, straight up.

Todd advertised PFA as a “free speech” site. Anything went. No moderation despite continuous pleas. Worked for a while. Fun experiment.

Lotta shit talk and ridicule ensued. Dick pics, gay porn and food. It was high comedy. Posters were clever as fuck. I was not one of them.

lol wow and sonatine are the last remnants of the old school. They ridicule one another but the aim isn’t to shut the other down. The opposite. It tends to go on for pages.

No. Today we are looking to cancel members. Lol libtards. It’s working.

I’m kinda a free speech guy. Zero tomato policy. Ideas don’t offend me. That’s not the fashion now. PFA might also be a reflection of how society in general has changed in the past 15 years. Less tolerant and less fun.

Yes, this place "free speech" and "no censorship", with some exceptions.

I honestly dont care who was "old school" here as this same old statement keeps coming up. Like a few of you keep putting on your old high school letter men jackets and just want to talk about the old days. Its over, its 2025, new people are here and keeping this place afloat. seriously, why do a small handful of you keep insisting to force "old school" here?? No one cares, live in the now.

As fro canceling members- We are tired of the same old shit here from a few that want to ruin it for all of us. The same old Sonatine BS with the AI screen shots ,etc...it gets old. The same old personal attacks here by the same liberal members-super old and lame.

So BCR left, good, there are 2 more clowns here that are hurting Druff's website and once they are gone, it will be a much better place.

It’s always the same old tired material played in here from the liberals.

To be brutally honest and short, I simply played the liberals at their own game here. In real life, the Trump Admin is doing that to the left and they are losing their minds.

And what a bunch of whining crybabies and whiners- melt downs EXACTLY like in real life. If it’s not their way, they whine, cry and attack. You don’t see the majority good members of this board bitching. Good members like Boz, Rizzo, Split, country678, FTJesus, Garrett, tgull, etc. way more GOID members here like me, verse a small handful of resident regards. Rather it’s ok for Sonatine to do his weekly BS and annoy everyone with bogus AI results

The alternative is letting the liberals take over this BBS and it dying again. Last tine, this once was dead. Or we could let the liberals in here keep posting gay porn pics like what’s still up, that will def kill the board again.

Add- I say liberals, left and libtards here and I’m not even right-winged, conservative or GOP, I’m a non-label.

I will keep this short, if I get banned here, the same 3 resident cancer liberal members here will over tun the place, scare off the good people and this place will die again. Please screen shot this post so when it happens, there will be no guessing or wondering "Why is it dead in here" like before, 2 years ago. The place is thriving now because 5 of us act normal and mature here vs the 3 resident clowns. Mickeycrimm even has it in his signature where he slams Sonatine, VCR and Sloppy Joe- nothing to do with me. Even he sees it.

When this place does unfortunately die, there is will be a off topic excuse made like- "Well, 2+2 died and it was just our turn now" when the real reason was- the liberals took over the board and ran everyone off. Thats why Snow left, he told me over the phone. Thats why the real life poker player at the WSOP complained in real life about the N word here- it was used by a few here and the last person to use it was Sloppy Joe when he called me a "sand nig", but that activity gets looked over, right?

As for the flashlight topic, everyone else keeps bringing it up, not me.

I would ban Sonatine, BCR and Sloppy Joe first and just sdee how it goes here. Cut hte cancer out, not embrace it.

I can't believe we're even talking about banning desertrunner. Why can't people just put him on ignore if they hate him so much? The truth of the matter is that the people who regularly shit on desertrunner actually love doing it. Its all highly entertaining for sure.

desertrunner is his own unique self and should be accepted with whatever faults he's perceived to have. Why can't the people who dislike him just try to see the good through the bad and let him be? None of you are perfect people even as some of you like to preach about inclusion and diversity.

Country nailed it.

Examples- So many members, posts and threads here I just ignore and scroll past. Now what does Sonatine do- He see a posts by me, doesnt join the discussion and just posts up some self generated IA result screen shot about "desertrunner" and the left side say nothing.

Right now on the good side- we have about 7 people- tgull, garrett, country978, TheBoz, Split, FrankRizzo, FTJesus and desertrunner. NONE of these good members attack others or cause problems here.

Bad side- Sonatine, BCR, Sloppy Joe, Jayjami and TellaFriend- All seem hell bent on causing problems in here. Lets he honest, they purposely go after me because I call them out on their crap.

Me- If I ran a board or a business, I would want to remove the cancer and problem makers in my arena. And we have had this discussion so many times, yet its the same old problem people making the problems in here. But the other SEVEN people here dont complaint at all. Funny how its so obvious and all shakes down. Once the liberals take over this board again, its all over and will be like 2+2.

Lastly- The 3/4 cencer members here always start these new "alarm threads" to get Druff's attention, complain about desertrunner and bait him into banning me. Druff- dont fall for the liberal crybaby tactics and take the bait.

[Tellafriend]

This is what we got. 1 day. 1 thread.

We go through this exact same stuff about 1-2 times a year when the resident liberals here get angry and their only outlet here is to attack the other members and then that doesnt work, they go crying to Druff complaining about desertrunner. And then Druff has to publicly shame me to make them feel better and then they get their feelings hurt again and the cycle starts all over again. This is nothing new.

I've told Druff this several times, hope it happens. What Druff should do is update the old 2016 forum rules that are not being enforced now and then make the new rules apply to ALL members and equally enforce them. Then he has a safety net of- You were told the new rules, you got a clean slate and now you got strike 1,2 or 3, etc.

…….

I've told Druff this several times, hope it happens. What Druff should do is update the old 2016 forum rules that are not being enforced now and then make the new rules apply to ALL members and equally enforce them. Then he has a safety net of- You were told the new rules, you got a clean slate and now you got strike 1,2 or 3, etc.

go fuck yourself.

Notice DR's weird hero fetish, that somehow the forums would die if Druff didnt get rid of all the "bad" users.

WRONG. we got about 11 members here that all act the same and then the regular 3 members here that keep acting retarded and annoying the whole board.

desertrunner you cant speak for everyone. I really like all the members here and what they bring. Its been like reading a sit-com for me with all the personalities and events. Sloppyjoe, Sonatine and BCR have all at one time or another given me a hard time for something stupid I might've said or something they disagreed with. Who cares? Just please let it all slide and stop creating such huge dramas.

You should have read what bcr has to say. Nobody but you is going to be happy if he doesn't post here anymore.

Correct, I dont speak for everyone. After being here for 12 years, I just see the same 3 people posting shit here and it gets old. I dont even care to post in this thread anymore, but wanted to respond to you. BCR is too much immature high school drama for me.

[Tellafriend]

Druff can confirm.


Pray for Druff.


I really hope Druff will cover on radio


oblig pic of Druff's mother