[x] NERVE TOUCHED
[x] NERVE TOUCHED
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the overwhelming majority of people going insane over this are trumptards and so we are clear the people youre referring to are not bitching, we are gloating.
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"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Good old whatabout cope.Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Here's what I don't understand.
Some of the loudest bitchers about this are high income winners who voted for Kamala Harris (and only Dems their entire adult life).
So it's okay if Democratic politicians increase their taxes, but not okay if Trump does?
Mind you, I don't support this law and think it sucks. But the pearl clutching by those who normally vote D is both hilarious and sad.
You would care more if you were ever winning stuff.
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they voted for a guy with a gold plated toilet and are shocked i say that hes picking their pockets
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"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Meanwhile in NZ, gambling winnings are tax free.
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but you also have retards doing the the hakka on every corner and its very corny at this point
Not sure who the "we" you're referring to is supposed to be.
You are presumably not affected by this, because from what you've said over the past years, you play just a little bit of recreational poker each year.
The lib pro players on X are definitely freaking the fuck out over this. If they were instead just laughing at Trump voters, I could at least respect that.
oh dang todge running an ocular pat down on twitter right now
The outrage nerds are very angry that I'm not taking the sky-is-falling line and demanding everyone call their Congressman.
Also...
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1940598534329585824
BUT I am hearing rumors that Republicans might be able to get the votes together soon.
Here was my post on X about the law (before the recent development about the vote potentially failing):
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It is easy and lazy to post outrage bait about laws attacking gamblers. After all, who in the community would ever take up for the government there? Nobody.
I hate the new law in the recent bill. It makes no sense, is arbitrary, and is unfair.
I also hate a lot of other laws I see get passed, including new tax increases.
At the same time, it’s important to be realistic regarding the impact of such laws, and to think deeply about their true likely effect on individuals and the industry as a whole.
It serves no benefit to the industry to incite unnecessary panic by citing scare scenarios and worst case (albeit unrealistic) examples.
It is also important to examine the recent history of the IRS, and how often they’ve audited gamblers, especially recreational ones. Such audits are rare, aside from egregious violations such as not filing returns or severely understating earnings.
Additionally, it’s important to understand what this law is and isn’t. It only affects itemizers. It does NOT cap claimed losses. It is likely to only affect a small percentage of gamblers.
Yes, at the end of the day, some gamblers will pay more taxes due to this law, if it ultimately passes. That’s unfair, but it’s no worse to pro gamblers than a general tax increase.
There will also be legal ways to combat this, even if it does pass, such as defining a “session” in a fashion which benefits you most, while at the same time fitting into case-law-established logical parameters.
In short, this is an idiotic, arbitrary, and annoying tax increase on a small percentage of gamblers, but it’s not going to shatter the industry or end professional gambling as we know it.
Finally this law may not pass at all or may get amended, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
If you do feel you need to increase your clout, views, or popularity by posting outrage bait, go right ahead, but I’m not going to pretend the sky is falling because I see rain.
Can someone offer an explanation for this tax. Which lobby does this satisfy? What is the motivation?
As an aside:
Sports wagering dwarfs poker so there is that. Legalized sports wagering comes complete with very detailed paperwork and tax forms with just one push of the mouse button.
Prolly 96% of sports wagerers are losers so …. where is the revenue? Druff is correct that it affects only a small percentage of gamblers.
The Bill just doesn’t address serious national revenue concerns. This issue is nonsense.
I don't even understand its origins.
Seems extremely arbitrary.
It might have come from a place like, "Most pro gamblers are underreporting, so let's add 10% on top of their burden so it brings them closer to what they were supposed to be paying."
Anyway the bill passed 219-213 just now, so here we go.
The weird quiet is a the sound of a majority or small minority taking it up the ass without lube.
Losers, lubers, lubers. How embarrassing?
Losers.
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Hey everyone, it passed by six votes, none tainted.
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Last edited by limitles; 07-03-2025 at 01:10 AM. Reason: f
"The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
Dan Druff
“I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Albert Einstein
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today if a gift
and that is why it's called the present"
Eleanor Roosevelt
Maybe it hasn’t passed yet. I’m confused. Well we will know soon.
In their nay votes on the big beautiful bill dems were de facto voting for the largest tax increase in history. So it is indeed disingenuous of leftards to be bitching about Trump raising a certain tax.Here's what I don't understand.
Some of the loudest bitchers about this are high income winners who voted for Kamala Harris (and only Dems their entire adult life).
So it's okay if Democratic politicians increase their taxes, but not okay if Trump does?
Mind you, I don't support this law and think it sucks. But the pearl clutching by those who normally vote D is both hilarious and sad.
BTW, this reminds me of the time the WSOP almost got cancelled. It was back in the 90's. Just before the start of the WSOP the IRS told the Horseshoe they had to withhold 24% tax from the winners.
I think that up until that time the winners had been payed in cash and there was no W2-G.
So the players said fuck you we ain't playing. Probably because they seen they weren't going to get even a thin dime, the IRS rescinded the rule and instead told the Horseshoe they had to issue W2-G's for winnings higher than $600 or 300 times the buy-in, whichever was greater. Why they wrote it that way I don't know. It would have to be a $2 tournament for a $600 buy-in to be 300X.
I remember there were a lot of stupid poker room managers in those days that issued W2'G's in daily/weekly tournaments to anyone that had a win higher than $600. You couldn't explain to them about the 300X rule. They just didn't get it.
Anyways, as soon as the IRS rescinded the rule the players poured in and the WSOP was on.
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If you are looking for the culprits that got this piece of work into the bill I think the sports betting industry should be the first to look at. It makes a lot of pro sports bettors go away.
I don't even understand its origins.
Seems extremely arbitrary.
It might have come from a place like, "Most pro gamblers are underreporting, so let's add 10% on top of their burden so it brings them closer to what they were supposed to be paying."
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