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    Exclamation September 11, 2001 aka 9/11

    The 25th Anniversary is soon.

    Marcy Borders, a 28-year-old employee at the Bank of America in the World Trade Center, survived the building’s collapse on September 11, 2001. A haunting photograph captured her in the aftermath, completely covered in dust, a moment that came to symbolize the human impact of the tragedy. The image became widely recognized, and Borders became known as "The Dust Lady." She passed away from cancer on August 24, 2015.


     
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    DR I need a favor, let me know if you think this is credible. I totally think it's credible but i might be biased.

    https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1...9-11-arab.html

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    Nah, this to me is the photo of 9/11. He was one of many who jumped or tried to climb down but was the guy that was widely distributed and had a documentary made about who he possibly was.

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falling_Man

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    Here you guys go, you can enjoy a Sept 11th conspiracy video and remain in your comfort zone.

    Harvey Levin from TMZ has a new Sept 11th documentary.
    I haven't watched it but it seems to be pretty popular.
    I suspect he may try to blame Iran, maybe not.

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    Follow up-

    The pic I posted in Post #1 was not my main 9/11 picture, just some new random find, figure I would share.

    As for the conspiracy theories- I really dont deep dive into them as I just dont like chasing ideas. I dont have anything to say to them, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    The 25th Anniversary is soon.

    Marcy Borders, a 28-year-old employee at the Bank of America in the World Trade Center, survived the building’s collapse on September 11, 2001. A haunting photograph captured her in the aftermath, completely covered in dust, a moment that came to symbolize the human impact of the tragedy. The image became widely recognized, and Borders became known as "The Dust Lady." She passed away from cancer on August 24, 2015.

    That is really amazing. Did she survive the collapse of the tower, while she was still inside? I did not realize they pulled out ANYONE alive from the wreckage. Or did she manage to escape the tower before it fell?

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    The other 9/11-





    Quote Originally Posted by 420powersme View Post
    That is really amazing. Did she survive the collapse of the tower, while she was still inside? I did not realize they pulled out ANYONE alive from the wreckage. Or did she manage to escape the tower before it fell?
    Sorry I dont have any additional information on this, it was a random find I never seen before.

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    I just looked it up, it turns out 20 people (!!!) were pulled from the rubble alive, after the collapse of the towers. I honestly had no idea, thought to myself that it would have been a miracle even if one single person survived that kind of devastation.

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    18 people survived the collapse. One firefighter, Mikey Kross, was one of them.

    Kross and the 17 others were at or near the bottom, and basically hid in the corner and got lucky to be protected by the debris that fell around them.

    The "dust lady" shown above, Marcy Borders, was not one of them. She was in the North Tower, but 12 floors below impact. She made the decision to evacuate, but was so high up that it took about an hour to get down the stairs.

    She had just made it out of the building when the South Tower collapsed. The ensuing dust cloud knocked her to the ground and she couldn't breathe. Some guy nearby saw this, picked her up, and dragged her to safety to a nearby building. That's where that picture was taken.

    She died of stomach cancer in 2015, likely due to the dust exposure. She was only 43. This is often the timeline for such exposure, as you rarely feel symptoms immediately.

    However, it should also be noted that, between 2001 and 2011, Borders developed a bad drinking problem as a result of the trauma, and that could have contributed. Borders quit drinking after feeling closure when Osama bin Laden was killed.

    Kross, the firefighter I mentioned above, also developed a bad drinking problem for the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    18 people survived the collapse. One firefighter, Mikey Kross, was one of them.

    Kross and the 17 others were at or near the bottom, and basically hid in the corner and got lucky to be protected by the debris that fell around them.

    The "dust lady" shown above, Marcy Borders, was not one of them. She was in the North Tower, but 12 floors below impact. She made the decision to evacuate, but was so high up that it took about an hour to get down the stairs.

    She had just made it out of the building when the South Tower collapsed. The ensuing dust cloud knocked her to the ground and she couldn't breathe. Some guy nearby saw this, picked her up, and dragged her to safety to a nearby building. That's where that picture was taken.

    She died of stomach cancer in 2015, likely due to the dust exposure. She was only 43. This is often the timeline for such exposure, as you rarely feel symptoms immediately.

    However, it should also be noted that, between 2001 and 2011, Borders developed a bad drinking problem as a result of the trauma, and that could have contributed. Borders quit drinking after feeling closure when Osama bin Laden was killed.

    Kross, the firefighter I mentioned above, also developed a bad drinking problem for the next 5 years.
    Is the number of survivors 18 or 20? The number I keep getting is 20 (12 firefighters, 3 Port Authority police officers, and 5 civilians).
    Here is a breakdown.
    Genelle Guzman-McMillan: A Port Authority secretary, she was the last survivor rescued from the rubble, having been trapped for 27 hours after the North Tower collapse.
    John McLoughlin and Will Jimeno: These Port Authority police officers were trapped under the concourse between the two towers and rescued after nearly 24 hours. Their story was later portrayed in the film World Trade Center. They were number 18 and 19 to be pulled out alive.
    David Handschuh: A photojournalist, he was trapped in debris when the South Tower collapsed and rescued by firefighters.
    Tom Canavan: He worked on the 47th floor of the South Tower and survived with another unidentified man in a pocket formed by debris.
    Captain Jay Jonas and five other firefighters: They were in the North Tower helping Josephine Harris evacuate when the tower collapsed. All survived.
    Pasquale Buzzelli: He survived a fall down 22 stories of falling debris in the North Tower.

    There is a thread on reddit that lists a lot of the details about the other survivors: https://www.reddit.com/r/911archive/...the_collapsed/

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    Memory holed big time, a couple of the hijackers had ramp passes.


    An airport ramp pass, also known as an Airport Operations Area (AOA) permit or ramp permit, grants authorized
    personnel access to the restricted areas of an airport, specifically the airfield ramp. These passes are essential for individuals who
    need to operate vehicles or equipment on the ramp for operational or maintenance purposes.

    That to catch a predator host had a much better segment on those ramp passes.

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    On most if not all the biggest lies we've been told. AI is being used to rewrite history, fuck AI!


    AI Overview
    No, the 9/11 hijackers did not use ramp passes to board the planes. Ramp passes are typically used by authorized personnel,
    such as airport employees and airline staff, to access secure areas of the airport, including the aircraft ramp and operational
    spaces. These areas are restricted from the general public.

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