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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    @sonatine only please, i/we know Druff's justification for this, but his take correct? is there a justification (that they claim) out there for doing this, also do you think this got Trump's approval or no...?
    Trump was repeatedly tweeting about our meeting tomorrow with Iran to hammer out a nuclear agreement. Israel subverted him. They knew precisely Trump’s ambition.

    So that’s a firm “No”

    Someone wake up Lil Marco. He he is batting well below the Mendoza line. Trump’s tickets to pick up the Nobel Peace prize better be refundable.
    Maybe trade in your Trump ticket for Netanyahu if the odds are good enough? If the IRGC falls and a new regime makes peace with Israel and the US and normalizes relations with the civilized world; this would be a pretty positive development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Trump was repeatedly tweeting about our meeting tomorrow with Iran to hammer out a nuclear agreement. Israel subverted him. They knew precisely Trump’s ambition.

    So that’s a firm “No”

    Someone wake up Lil Marco. He he is batting well below the Mendoza line. Trump’s tickets to pick up the Nobel Peace prize better be refundable.
    I think Trump knew, but perhaps didn't know the date, or perhaps Israel did it prematurely.

    I doubt he was totally left in the dark.
    Well, in hindsight evacuating civilians from all the embassies in the region may have been a clue.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    All that ending war with Russia in Ukraine on day 1 while it’s now at its most intense. Israel telling him to go get fucked, and the embarrassing TACO capitulations have made it clear that Trump is weak and exactly no one is scared of him. The great peacemaker is pretty much batting .000 this term.

    This is now going to get interesting. His people are very divided on this with the old wing and new wing.
    My guess is this:

    Israel wanted to do this shortly after 10/7, but Biden (or whoever was the secret President at the time) objected to it.

    Trump took office on 1/20/25, and shortly thereafter, Israel approached him and asked for him to go along with this attack in the middle of the year. Trump agreed, and Israel spent several months preparing for it. They settled on June 12 as the attack date, and so it began.

    This is probably the favorite. I’m just trolling the Trump the peacemaker crowd and Trump is strong crowd.

    If he did know and chose to look weak and basically beg Netanyahu not to do this instead of appear strong and like he endorsed it, that’s a real testament to how powerful and large the segment of the right is right now who are actively posting we aren’t dying for Jews and Iran has a right to protect itself.

    Other than Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz, pro-Iran or at minimum don’t intervene even if Israel is on the verge of extinction is the overwhelming majority of right leaning voices right now. If he needed to do theater and appear like Netanyahu defied him rather than draw the ire of that crowd, then I hope Israel can deal with Iran themselves. I assume they can.

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    by the time the dust settles, palantir will be trading at 10x its current value of .1% its current value. dont see much of a middle ground.
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    Also, our government was fully aware this was going to happen and when. Don't be dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    by the time the dust settles, palantir will be trading at 10x its current value of .1% its current value. dont see much of a middle ground.
    and by “dust settles” you mean 2nd Qtr 2027?

    4 bagger past year.

    I’m in

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    going to fill my vehicle up and all the gas cans i have.... oils is up $6.00 in the last hour to $73.33 per barrel... i might go to walmart and get extra gas cans to fill up.... pray for Druff out in Commiefornia and their gas prices.... he should do emergency radio on this....
    Especially pray for Druff. Newsom's 65c extra gas tax starts 7/1!

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    https://rumble.com/v6upckd-america-f...e9s=src_v1_ucp

    Not live, but great summary.
    https://rumble.com/v6up8hh-we-are-ra...e9s=src_v1_ucp

    Is Israel is looking for a reason to nuke Tehran?
    Israeli leaders are calling Iran Amalek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    The average millennial doesn't care about Israel at all. The average zoomer is somewhat anti-Israel. We're one election cycle away from both surpassing boomers and gen x as the largest voting bloc. What does this mean for AIPAC and Israel?

    This post was from a year ago - what I was trying to do here is plant in anyone that read this's mind that all Israeli disputes were always going to be resolved, or at least attempted to be, out of this series of events.

    As if the protests and wide spread opinions of Israel online weren't obvious enough, there have been multiple professionally conducted polls showing that the support of Israel is non existent among millennials and gen Z, with both generations having a large percentage outright opposed to Israel. The likelihood of being opposed greatly increases the younger the person is. This sentiment is worse in every single western country.

    A deeper analysis and understanding of what Israel is doing and why they are doing it (for the long term survival of the country) makes their actions not seem so reckless but actually rather necessary, but overall they've still handled this very poorly and are still clearly hellbent on forcing us into joining the conflict.

    I am personally hoping that this doesn't spiral fully out of control for the sake of the Israeli people.

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    https://twitter.com/IfindRetards/status/1933344129523855486

    Leave it to the retard finder account to be the voice of reason. ROFL

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    The current (and longstanding) Islamic fundamentalist regime of Iran would not hesitate to use nukes to obliterate Israel, even if it meant they got nuked back. These type of people feel that it is righteous to destroy the infidels, even if you die yourself.

    Islamic terrorists are not afraid of death. They are afraid of failure, and a death without having achieved your terror goals is considered a failure.

    This is why a terrorist who dies flying an airplane into the WTC is proud and eager to do so, whereas a terrorist dreads dying from an Israeli bomb while in the planning stages of an attack.

    The absolutely most dangerous scenario for the world is an enemy with nukes who isn't afraid of their own country being nuked in retaliation. In such a case, mutually assured destruction doesn't work.

    Iran is too far along with their nuclear program. Israel was running out of time. Once capable of nuking Israel, Iran will hold a lot of the cards, as Israel does not want its citizens to die, while Iran does not care about their own.

    I don't see how anyone can deny that Iran has been engaging in a proxy war against Israel since October 7, 2023. Given that being the case, how can you blame Israel for these actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    sigh... and i really thought DJT was gonna be the "peace keeper", the fraudulent Ukraine funding is still going on too... it really pisses me off...
    To be fair Israel has a right to act since they would be targeted by any nukes Iran has (reports vary of potentially 9-15 bombs were potentially in final production). I will add though. Clearly we sold the Israelis the bunk buster bombs they would have had to use for this strike given how deep Iran's nuclear enrichment and other related facilities are. Truth is it was either the bunker buster penetrators or it would've required B61-12 Dial a yield nukes with Ground Earth Penetrating delayed fuses and pretty sure Isreal using a nuke in this case wouldve been a major no no.

    Im not sure entirely what Isreal was supposed to do. They sat around waiting for Trump to get Iran to play nice and Irans response after the IAEA basically said Iran is in total no compliance of inspections and likely had HEU at 85% (weapons grade U235) and Irans response wasnt even to deny it just say basically F you were gonna be enriching Uranium at a 3rd site.

    Truth is the Arab countries (Iran is Persian) want to see Iran leadership removed and the whole issue of nukes be off the table. KSA already has made it clear due to their massive distrust of Iran if they get a nuke, KSA will have no choice but to build some of their own. Last thing needed is even a minimal nuke exchange even if it didnt involve Isreal happening that could drive Oil literally off the charts if both hit each others oil fields. (Theres a Dale Brown novel that discusses this exact scenario, for those who dont know Dale was a USAF pilot for over 20yrs and studied the Middle East extensively)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    This will be a very brief conflict. My guess is very soon the US will drop a MOAB bomb on Tehran. The US simply has too many naturalized Americans in Israel so there is no choice to get involved. Nobody outside of, well Iran, gives a shit about Iran in the Middle East. They want them cleaned out as well, especially the Saudis and they control all the money.

    Close guess but more likely the truth is if Tehran is stupid enough to target US military bases over there I would suspect hell fire to rain down on them via at least one converted Ohio Class SSGN (converted to launch Tomahawk Cruise Missiles vs Pershing Nukes) which can carry damn near 200 on a single sub along with Stand off ATACMS launched by the B2s we have sitting in Diego Garcia. Targets likely to be anything military including Revolutionary Guard Depots Potential decapitation strikes against the leadership (finishing what Isreal already started on targeting and eliminating some leadership tonight). Truthfully need to limit civilian casualties as much as possible because theres a sizeable civilian population group that wants to bring back the Shah in Exile or at minimum bring down the entire theocracy in Iran. Cut the head off the snake and the dissidents might finally have a chance to reclaim their country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    every rational persian is currently rooting for complete regime change, as they should be.
    agreed. Israel needs to decapitate the theocratic hydra thats been in charge since the late 70s. Im curious Krypt ive heard mixed signals of some wanting to return the Shah in exile to Iran vs trying to form a Democratic government. (for those who dont know the Shah is the titular monarch of Iran or should say WAS for a long time the Shah at the time of the Islamic revolution however passed away long ago it is his son who now hold the title in exile.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Trump was repeatedly tweeting about our meeting tomorrow with Iran to hammer out a nuclear agreement. Israel subverted him. They knew precisely Trump’s ambition.

    So that’s a firm “No”

    Someone wake up Lil Marco. He he is batting well below the Mendoza line. Trump’s tickets to pick up the Nobel Peace prize better be refundable.
    I think Trump knew, but perhaps didn't know the date, or perhaps Israel did it prematurely.

    I doubt he was totally left in the dark.
    If what the IAEA reported was true they essentially exposed what Irans true status on having viable weapons within weeks. Iran literally came out and gave the middle finger to the IAEA as well as others saying they were expanding their enrichment capability even further. And yes pretty sure we know what was going to happen Druff. Why else would Hegseth called for voluntary evacuations of military dependants and non essential personal 36hrs prior to Israel going in. Plus the fact we likely sold them the bunker buster bombs to hit the buried underground facilities.

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    Had Harris won, instead of giving our blessing to Israel for this, she'd be sending them another few billion in "aid", with the condition that they "promise" not to use it to fund terrorism.

    Seriously. That's what Biden did.

    And Obama gave them $400m for hostages.

    Democrats were so bad at handling Iran, it was almost comical. In fact, they've always been at at Iran matters, dating back to Carter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Had Harris won, instead of giving our blessing to Israel for this, she'd be sending them another few billion in "aid", with the condition that they "promise" not to use it to fund terrorism.

    Seriously. That's what Biden did.

    And Obama gave them $400m for hostages.

    Democrats were so bad at handling Iran, it was almost comical. In fact, they've always been at at Iran matters, dating back to Carter.
    It's a huge relief we aren't relying on Harris/Walz in these times. Love him or hate him Trump is the man for this time. The mullahs had their chance for peace and they chose war. Fuck them. I hope none of this stops until all those assholes are gone. They want death to America, walk across the US flag and fund all our enemies. This regime since 1979 has made no effort to be anything but our sworn enemy.

    Lets just get it/them over with at this point.

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