april 2 'liberation day' predictions;

[Jayjami]

In fairness, China doesn’t pay the tariff. Apple and their customers do. I’m sure Tim Cook and mutual funds made contact. Desertrunner’s Calpers.

Buffet. He unloaded peak Apple. He’s the only one who’s seen this all before. Respect

When Trump comments it will be preceded with, “No other president in history….”

Yeah I get that. But you carve out chips, computers, and smart phones and you’re fighting over toasters and cheap t-shirts.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad he’s full of shit. I just can’t get over the whole insult everyone tough guy act when it’s the fucking Chinese. You aren’t outlasting them. They’ll stay resolute for a decade just to not back down. You can’t go to war with a culture that will find this a cause for national sacrifice when you’re a county and culture where people will lose their minds the minute things go up a dollar. How badly mismanaged and how half assed this all was is mind blowing. Let insult the world and make a lot of enemies for nothing

Xi can let his people suffer with no political ramifications. Trump has midterms in a year and a half. He campaigned on bringing prices down. If he doesn’t deliver, the GOP will lose the House.

[BCR]

Yeah I get that. But you carve out chips, computers, and smart phones and you’re fighting over toasters and cheap t-shirts.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad he’s full of shit. I just can’t get over the whole insult everyone tough guy act when it’s the fucking Chinese. You aren’t outlasting them. They’ll stay resolute for a decade just to not back down. You can’t go to war with a culture that will find this a cause for national sacrifice when you’re a county and culture where people will lose their minds the minute things go up a dollar. How badly mismanaged and how half assed this all was is mind blowing. Let insult the world and make a lot of enemies for nothing

Xi can let his people suffer with no political ramifications. Trump has midterms in a year and a half. He campaigned on bringing prices down. If he doesn’t deliver, the GOP will lose the House.

Yes, I understand the differences and how the world works. It’s why it was laughable to me from the jump.

It’s why you’re a fool to ever pretend you’re a badass who is prepared to go to war when you’re beholden to a dozen different interests that can get you to stand down at any moment whether it be CEOs or politicos.

Who is stupid enough to think a few weeks of pain is going to buckle the Chinese? It’s why all the cheerleading is so laughable.

They’ve subsidized tariffs for years at times. Ate it. They have a hundred different ways to exert pressure on us whether it’s dumping debt, making deals with other countries we just insulted. They play a long game and we do not. They have resolve and we do not.

There they see this as an act of war and circle the wagons. Here I see moms in the reddest districts ever whining about not being able to shop on temu and stock x.

This was all known before this mess. Anyone who really wanted to do something for American workers would craft a plan that made sense. First pass bills shifting money from the service sector into manufacturing. Then take their time and exert pressure in calculated ways to chip away. Even then, maybe in 1985 or even 95, that decision if even done well would come with much higher prices. You’d need a society willing to sacrifice and we aren’t that. You’d also need companies willing to pay employees as the higher cost of living would be across the board. Never happens.


But these morons. They insult everyone and end up with their tail between their legs already having caused a lot of damage and bad will. Amateur hour doesn’t even cover it. Talk about the absolute opposite of diplomacy.

[mickeycrimm]

ROTFLMAO! You are not going to address what I wrote because you don't have a cogent argument. So you resort to denigration and name calling to cover up for your irrational views.

You got squashed like a bug. But since your IQ is lower than your age you don't get it.

Another predictable monkey-tilt. Anyway, move along Hotwheels.

Yes, you've had another predictable monkey tilt. Engaging in moronic name calling is not winning a debate. You can't win the debate because you are weak on the issues.

And you fall for the dumbest shit. Like the MSM telling you "Trump chickenshitted out and paused the tariffs." You ate shit up like it's the truth.

But the reality is Trump kept raising the tariffs on China. He hit them hard, starting with 34% and ran it all the way to 145% as the Chinks kept running theirs up to 125%. But they blinked at Trump's 145% and said they wouldn't raise their tariffs above 125%.

Trump initially placed 20% tariffs on the EU. But after a week the EU said it was willing to negotiate and proposed zero for zero tariffs. They didn't try to retaliate with their own raised tariffs. So Trump threw them a bone and cut the tariffs in half to 10% for 90 days. As it is they've never paid 10% tariffs on cars to the US before. It's 4X what they were paying.

But Trump wants more than zero for zero tariffs. The EU has to stop with the VAT taxes and regulations which are also trade barriers. And Trump wants a 350 billion dollar deal to sell the EU energy instead of them getting it from Russia.

[mickeycrimm]

Yeah I get that. But you carve out chips, computers, and smart phones and you’re fighting over toasters and cheap t-shirts.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad he’s full of shit. I just can’t get over the whole insult everyone tough guy act when it’s the fucking Chinese. You aren’t outlasting them. They’ll stay resolute for a decade just to not back down. You can’t go to war with a culture that will find this a cause for national sacrifice when you’re a county and culture where people will lose their minds the minute things go up a dollar. How badly mismanaged and how half assed this all was is mind blowing. Let insult the world and make a lot of enemies for nothing

Xi can let his people suffer with no political ramifications. Trump has midterms in a year and a half. He campaigned on bringing prices down. If he doesn’t deliver, the GOP will lose the House.

Trump could have done nothing and still lose the house. The opposition has always done well in the midterms.

[zealanddonk]

Since everyone ele ignored this top shelf post:

LOL at Trump removing tarriffs on computer parts that America desperately needs
Also LOL at Trump putting a 90 day hold on the tarriffs because hes fucking the economy

Finally LOL at https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...gal-rcna200722
Trump thought it'd be a great idea to deport all them illegal farm workers, until the price of everything went up

[mickeycrimm]

If you want to know how dirty China is in business then listen to the congressional hearing a few days ago. Kevin O'Leary, has extensive business experience with the Chinese. He makes his opening statement at 18:30:

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Lol

[sonatine]

[Sanlmar]

Cash btw

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[sonatine]

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https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1911151908389105966

[sonatine]

its hard to see how this ends without a lehman moment followed by people being unable to get cash out of atms / cash paychecks / make payroll for a few weeks.

[Sanlmar]

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https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1911151908389105966

Apple’s market value had fallen more than the capitalization of Walmart.

This is where the at $1 million dollar donation to the inauguration ceremony by Cook came in handy. Little access. A light lunch with a Trump. All good.

You would be better than I at tracking down the crazy action in the $200 Apple calls hours before the exemptions announcement. I just don’t have the energy to be appalled by the grift like I used to. Is it my depression? idk. Nevertheless it could prove amusing to yourself or others.

You can go all ham on Trump and this crew of billionaires but you can never walk this diminished trust back. It’ll be a thing in future administrations too… without all the backlash. Remember giving actual fucks about Pelosi trades? Now you can download an app to track congressional trades. It’s been normalized.

sigh, democracy.

[mickeycrimm]

Shut it down, Chinaman, er, Gordman. You're defeated. Now get back to sucking Xi's dick. The defeatism by you and the other PFA libtards is astounding. Xi and the EU owns you cucks.

[mickeycrimm]

Finally LOL at https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...gal-rcna200722
Trump thought it'd be a great idea to deport all them illegal farm workers, until the price of everything went up

Nothing new here. Farm workers should enter the country legally, not illegally. That's all Americans have ever wanted. Come here legally. That's what Trump is fixing.

[mickeycrimm]

[BCR]

Good to see your sticking with the fellow cults.

That channel is literally owned and run by Falun Gong you fucking moron. It’s a death cult. That and the Epoch Times are their main ways to influence gullible morons like yourself too unsophisticated to separate propaganda from reality.

God your idiocy is boundless.

[limitles]

Finally LOL at https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...gal-rcna200722
Trump thought it'd be a great idea to deport all them illegal farm workers, until the price of everything went up

Nothing new here. Farm workers should enter the country legally, not illegally. That's all Americans have ever wanted. Come here legally. That's what Trump is fixing.

Explain how deporting a "migrant farm worker" without due process is something Americans have always wanted?

[Orko]

So why are we trying everything to destroy China, even at the risk of destroying ourselves in the process?

As of now China hasn't been successfully infiltrated and therefore can't be controlled from behind the scenes like the USA and Europe.
Even attempts to infiltrate Chinese media have failed.


For that reason the ruling elite have decided to try to prevent China from becoming the world's sole superpower.
The US Govt and corporations will be used for this mission. The costs to America are of no consequence what so ever.