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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    You clearly don't understand what whataboutism is. It is a rhetorical device to deflect criticism from accusations against your guy by pointing out the flaw of another. This wasn't an attack on Obama or any other Dem. This is you coming into a thread whining about RBC commenting on Trump golfing and pretending that he is being mean to poor Donnie, when no one has ever whined and lied about the subject more than Trump. His outright mocking of how much Obama golfed and then played more rounds in 4 years than Obama did in 8. That's not whataboutism. It's cultspeak denying the blatant hypocrisy, which is pretty much your brand.

    If you're real, so be it. It's actually a compliment when I call you a dupe because it's me giving you credit for being intentionally obtuse in a calculated manner. The alternative is worse.
    When I think about it its actually funny how you people waited all this time to complain about Trump. I definitely respect the long game. All this bitching about Obama must've been like 15 years ago and here you are pointing it out now. Again, I don't care who golfed or how many times and I never said anything about this before today. If this is the focus of people then so be it.

    I'll try to use phrases better. I'm not perfect but I hope the point is made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    You clearly don't understand what whataboutism is. It is a rhetorical device to deflect criticism from accusations against your guy by pointing out the flaw of another. This wasn't an attack on Obama or any other Dem. This is you coming into a thread whining about RBC commenting on Trump golfing and pretending that he is being mean to poor Donnie, when no one has ever whined and lied about the subject more than Trump. His outright mocking of how much Obama golfed and then played more rounds in 4 years than Obama did in 8. That's not whataboutism. It's cultspeak denying the blatant hypocrisy, which is pretty much your brand.

    If you're real, so be it. It's actually a compliment when I call you a dupe because it's me giving you credit for being intentionally obtuse in a calculated manner. The alternative is worse.
    When I think about it its actually funny how you people waited all this time to complain about Trump. I definitely respect the long game. All this bitching about Obama must've been like 15 years ago and here you are pointing it out now. Again, I don't care who golfed or how many times and I never said anything about this before today. If this is the focus of people then so be it.

    I'll try to use phrases better. I'm not perfect but I hope the point is made.
    See this is mild whataboutism. Not severe, but it has the elements of deflection. Guy starts a site to mock Trump's campaign lies. You enter thread to whine about the guy pointing out the lies and then exaggerate by double how long ago we are talking about. He obviously couldn't lie about it again this campaign because what a fraud he was on the issue is already on record. You even added an oh boo hoo like a dick.

    If I spend a year mocking you about an activity and then engage in said activity twice as much as you, and someone points it out, the rational answer is yeah I am a hypocrite and full of shit. Not attack the guy who is pointing out I mocked you when I am far worse.

    You are a cult member. This is the behavior of a cult member regardless of if you fail to recognize it or not. Hence why I call you a dupe, because I would like to think you're not that far gone mentally if you're real, but maybe you are. I would prefer if you were disingenuous rather than stupid.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    When I think about it its actually funny how you people waited all this time to complain about Trump. I definitely respect the long game. All this bitching about Obama must've been like 15 years ago and here you are pointing it out now. Again, I don't care who golfed or how many times and I never said anything about this before today. If this is the focus of people then so be it.

    I'll try to use phrases better. I'm not perfect but I hope the point is made.
    See this is mild whataboutism. Not severe, but it has the elements of deflection. Guy starts a site to mock Trump's campaign lies. You enter thread to whine about the guy pointing out the lies and then exaggerate by double how long ago we are talking about. He obviously couldn't lie about it again this campaign because what a fraud he was on the issue is already on record. You even added an oh boo hoo like a dick.

    If I spend a year mocking you about an activity and then engage in said activity twice as much as you, and someone points it out, the rational answer is yeah I am a hypocrite and full of shit. Not attack the guy who is pointing out I mocked you when I am far worse.

    You are a cult member. This is the behavior of a cult member regardless of if you fail to recognize it or not. Hence why I call you a dupe, because I would like to think you're not that far gone mentally if you're real, but maybe you are. I would prefer if you were disingenuous rather than stupid.
    you think i was being a dick because I said boo-who? If I ever knew about Trump making an issue of Obama golfing I didn't remember it. So it wasn't 15 years ago? Ok, sorry for that.

    Trump has done and said a lot of stupid things. I'm no apologist for him. I'm not part of any cult but I am definitely wishing him well.

     
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    Forget golf, Trump is allowing Private equity to loot the country. The way they're able to put companies in huge debt.
    Prices are going to go thru the roof. One of the sleaziest PE firms has control of Safeway Albertsons. The Biden admin thwarted their attempt to get a monopoly.
    Trump brought them into his admin. You're dreamimg if you think the prices of grocerires are going to come down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    Forget golf, Trump is allowing Private equity to loot the country. The way they're able to put companies in huge debt.
    Prices are going to go thru the roof. One of the sleaziest PE firms has control of Safeway Albertsons. The Biden admin thwarted their attempt to get a monopoly.
    Trump brought them into his admin. You're dreamimg if you think the prices of grocerires are going to come down.
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    country - quit groveling, you aren't helping yourself. just quietly exit the thread.

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    Branding something a "whataboutism" is one of the weak ass arguments those afflicted with woke mind virus try to use to stifle debates they are losing. The person that screams "whataboutism" want their cake and eat it too. They don't want you to point to injustices coming from their side as they accuse you of injustices.

    The irony of it is the person that screams "Hey, that's a whataboutism!" are themselves commiting a whataboutism. They are essentially saying "Hey, whatabout that whataboutism you are using in your argument?"

    But it's typical of lefties. They always accuse their opposition of doing exactly what they themselves are doing.

     
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    Copilot in training, pilot in control.

    Trump was and is right about EVERYTHING.

    Liberal policies ruining our country again.

     
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    "The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
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    “I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
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    "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today if a gift
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    Death and tragedy is always going to be even worse with Trump. I know the guy doesn’t have a cunt hair of empathy in his body. But you can’t go to political attacks and the DEI stuff during your first public statement while they are still pulling bodies from a river.

    Look we all know he doesn’t give two shits about the dead people. Although, I guess you can say he cares about the “talented” figure skaters who died. But the fact that he couldn’t fake it for the first public statement. It just is really gross.


    Not trying to get into the politics. I know we can always say there are calls for gun control before the bodies are cold after mass shootings. But the fact Trump couldn’t fake giving a shit and once he went off prompter went into the attacks … just gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Death and tragedy is always going to be even worse with Trump. I know the guy doesn’t have a cunt hair of empathy in his body. But you can’t go to political attacks and the DEI stuff during your first public statement while they are still pulling bodies from a river.

    Look we all know he doesn’t give two shits about the dead people. Although, I guess you can say he cares about the “talented” figure skaters who died. But the fact that he couldn’t fake it for the first public statement. It just is really gross.


    Not trying to get into the politics. I know we can always say there are calls for gun control before the bodies are cold after mass shootings. But the fact Trump couldn’t fake giving a shit and once he went off prompter went into the attacks … just gross.
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    Reddit is a good recco.
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    "I'm a fed employee. Right now the administration is going after us like a witch hunt. Mind boggling situation to see. All inspector generals were fired........those are the people in charge to root out corruption and fraud.

    Most likely what is going to happen is they will try to get rid of as many fed employees as possible and then try to convince people that many entitlement programs are "broken". They will then try to "reform" many entitlement programs to significantly reduce the entitlement program. Their ultimate goal is to completely scrap every entitlement program for lower and middle class. That includes social security, medicare and so on.

    The problem is they don't want to do this when you have non-partisan federal employees who could notify the general public of what is going on inside."

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    CAN'T STOP, WON'T STOP WINNING

     
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    CAN'T STOP, WON'T STOP WINNING
    BEAUTIFUL


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    Reddit is a good recco.
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    "I'm a fed employee. Right now the administration is going after us like a witch hunt. Mind boggling situation to see. All inspector generals were fired........those are the people in charge to root out corruption and fraud.

    Most likely what is going to happen is they will try to get rid of as many fed employees as possible and then try to convince people that many entitlement programs are "broken". They will then try to "reform" many entitlement programs to significantly reduce the entitlement program. Their ultimate goal is to completely scrap every entitlement program for lower and middle class. That includes social security, medicare and so on.

    The problem is they don't want to do this when you have non-partisan federal employees who could notify the general public of what is going on inside."
    “Non-partisan federal employee” is an oxymoron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    Reddit is a good recco.
    Quote fr Reddit

    "I'm a fed employee. Right now the administration is going after us like a witch hunt. Mind boggling situation to see. All inspector generals were fired........those are the people in charge to root out corruption and fraud.

    Most likely what is going to happen is they will try to get rid of as many fed employees as possible and then try to convince people that many entitlement programs are "broken". They will then try to "reform" many entitlement programs to significantly reduce the entitlement program. Their ultimate goal is to completely scrap every entitlement program for lower and middle class. That includes social security, medicare and so on.

    The problem is they don't want to do this when you have non-partisan federal employees who could notify the general public of what is going on inside."
    RichardBrodiesCombover has aids

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    Quote fr pol
    "The problem is the debt to gdp ratio. Mathematically summarized as the size of your national debt divided by the size of your economy that is debt/GDP.

    Intellectually one can deduce as much as your debt being the result of decades of government spending exceeding government income in other words spending/income > 1.

    If you cut government spending the spending/income ratio will close in towards 1 eventually going <1.

    However, if you cut government spending, this will simultaneously result in GDP, the size of your economy, to decrease.

    In other words while you might reduce debt by 1 trillion, you will essentially cut GDP by 1 trillion as well.

    The current debt is 36.4 trillion USD and the current GDP is 29.6 trillion USD. This gives a ratio of 1.229.

    If you cut 1 trillion off of both you get 35.4 trillion USD in debt and 28.6 trillion USD in GDP. Ie a ratio of 1.237 that is to say an increase in debt to gdp.

    Factor in tariffs wich will certainly have a negative effect on growth, as well as the tech bubble finally about to pop with China surpassing US companies, and you actually start to wonder is this the moment?

    The correct solution would of course be to increase taxes from the 1 % since they hold a total wealth of 43 trillion USD, but this is of course not what Trump and his tech bros want, so they will basically do everything except tax the rich lol.

    1. The government spending is not the problem. As I have already explained, you will not reduce debt by decreasing government spending because the debt far exceed the GDP. If you cut government spending by 1 trillion you effectively cut GDP by 1 trillion, and this will worsen your debt to gdp ratio.

    2. The problem is that the US isn’t taxing the top 1 % or even top 10 % nearly enough. They hold 70 % of all private wealth yet pay hardly any taxes. The US is unique in its low taxation of the wealthy.

    3. The US government expediture itself is comparably small when you look at other developed economies:"

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