United Healthcare CEO shot dead in Midtown Manhattan

[Dan Druff]

Delay in care is a huge, huge, huge, HUGE problem in countries with socialized medicine.

Seeing a specialist will typically take 6 months (or more).

Getting tests will typically take 8 months (or more).

And that's if you don't get denied either or both of the above, which is common.

You think United Healthcare was bad regarding denials? Wait 'til you see socialized medicine!


Retards on social media say, "BUT IT'S THE SAME IN THE US, I ALSO CAN'T SEE A SPECIALIST FOR 6 MONTHS!!!!!!11"

To that I give two responses: Bull and shit.

Most of the time when I need a specialist, I can get a same week (and sometimes same day) appointment. Occasionally there is a months-long wait for care if the particular specialty has a shortage of doctors in the area. For example, I needed to see a dermatologist last month over some suspected eczema on my face. Everywhere local was quoting me appointments in March. No good.

So what did I do? I checked down the road, and about 30 miles away, they were able to see me within a week. Not ideal, but at least the option was open to me, and I took it. In a socialized system, I'd be waiting until June for that appointment, with no choice.

[Tellafriend]

4) There is a doctor shortage in the US, which almost nobody talks about

and it is not by accident.

[tgull]

I have never been denied any coverage in my life. I do have good insurance. I was in the hospital like 5 years ago for what I thought was a heart attack. Spent three days in there, they ran a battery of tests and procedures, like two cardiologists examined me. I was being woken up in the middle of the night multiple occasions for blood work. My total bill was like $44,000, I paid my deductible of what I remember was like $4,000, rest paid by insurance. Seems reasonable to me, I was thankful and not hating on insurance companies. Not sure why people are complaining, get better coverage. It's pretty easy.

[tgull]

they found the backpack in central park

I don't know if people realize how big Central Park is, it's kind of a miracle they found it. I would have thought he would have dug a hole beforehand an covered the surface with leaves. Maybe he did and they found it anyways.

[splitthis]

4) There is a doctor shortage in the US, which almost nobody talks about

and it is not by accident.

Back in the day, docs used to write orders and rns would carry out. Then when things became computerized they complicated the most simplest tasks with pages and pages of questions.

The biggy that happened is docs had to start doing all the steps by themselves instead of the usual delegating.

They ain’t got time for that shit.

I knew at least 10 younger but experienced say 10:years and up that bailed on being a doc because of this. Times this number by hospitals in the country…huuuuge.

Add in relentless back and forth with insurers and you get insanity.

When I started nursing over 30 years ago, patient care took up 75% of your time and charting took 25%. When I bailed on nursing those percentages flipped.

Healthcare needs a complete overhaul to eliminate so much bullshit.

Healthcare needs to be nonprofit period.

[Tellafriend]

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[sonatine]

they found the backpack in central park

I don't know if people realize how big Central Park is, it's kind of a miracle they found it. I would have thought he would have dug a hole beforehand an covered the surface with leaves. Maybe he did and they found it anyways.

if i had to guess id say a homeless person found it and turned it in.

[splitthis]

I don't know if people realize how big Central Park is, it's kind of a miracle they found it. I would have thought he would have dug a hole beforehand an covered the surface with leaves. Maybe he did and they found it anyways.

if i had to guess id say a homeless person found it and turned it in.

Lolz, sure, homeless in Central Park are up to date on this and instead of using contents to keep warm in the winter, they handed it in.

Wtf happened to you? Liberalism has caused in you the official word of the year…brainrot.

[splitthis]

Crimestoppers reward $10,000

FBI reward $50,000

UHC reward $0

lol

[Sanlmar]

and it is not by accident.

Back in the day, docs used to write orders and rns would carry out. Then when things became computerized they complicated the most simplest tasks with pages and pages of questions.

The biggy that happened is docs had to start doing all the steps by themselves instead of the usual delegating.

They ain’t got time for that shit.

I knew at least 10 younger but experienced say 10:years and up that bailed on being a doc because of this. Times this number by hospitals in the country…huuuuge.

Add in relentless back and forth with insurers and you get insanity.

When I started nursing over 30 years ago, patient care took up 75% of your time and charting took 25%. When I bailed on nursing those percentages flipped.

Healthcare needs a complete overhaul to eliminate so much bullshit.

Healthcare needs to be nonprofit period.

My sister was an intensive care nurse. (mother was a nurse) Sister dropped out and went to work for a lawyer. She culls their files for pertinent medical info.

She’s infinitely happier.

Pretty much sums the state of health care for me. Good luck with bodies. You can’t throw enough money at nurses to make them stay. … and they make really nice money.

[garrett]

Fairness of Full disclosure

I receive Medicaid so wont pay Medical bills or healthcare again until I die, being disabled I'm able to receive Medicaid

Medicaid isn't the best but you don't even have to pay a Co-Pay with Medicaid, so I'm fortunate for that now..

[MaxeyBets]

My updated theory:

This was carried out by some activist organization similar to Antifa that wanted to shine a light on the healthcare industry. I don't think it's some super large well-funded operation but it does seem to have some level of planning and intelligence.

They chose the CEO of the company with the highest percentage of denied claims to make their point.

He almost certainly had help throughout this. He was on his burner phone while waiting for the CEO outside the Hilton. He probably had help once he made it to Central Park. The e-bike was set-up for a quick and easy getaway. How did it get there?

The final point that tips it in favor of an activist group is the coordinated response online. Yeah, I know, many people hate the insurance industry. But, I've never seen this type of commentary be so viscous when a non-violent person is murdered. It reminds me of the lead-up to the election.

The online response seems to be driven by bots. It almost certainly is a coordinated effort.

I just don't think that guy gets out of the city if he is acting on his own.

[Sanlmar]

They have the kid’s water bottle so they have his DNA.

If any of his family members or extended family have ever done a 23andme this kid is toast. They’ll know who he is in no time.

Google is great like that.

[Sanlmar]

The 2 previous CEO’s left with $1.6b and $.5b respectively. What a grift

The guy who got whacked was so close to the pot of gold

[MaxeyBets]

They have the kid’s water bottle so they have his DNA.

If any of his family members or extended family have ever done a 23andme this kid is toast. They’ll know who he is in no time.

Google is great like that.

I saw the video of him calmly placing the water bottle on the trash. He is either the dumbest criminal or this was an intentional piece of misdirection on his part.

[Sanlmar]

They have the kid’s water bottle so they have his DNA.

If any of his family members or extended family have ever done a 23andme this kid is toast. They’ll know who he is in no time.

Google is great like that.

I saw the video of him calmly placing the water bottle on the trash. He is either the dumbest criminal or this was an intentional piece of misdirection on his part.

What’s he supposed to do? Hydration is key to good health.

[TheXFactor]

Crimestoppers reward $10,000

FBI reward $50,000

UHC reward $0

lol

[Sanlmar]

I dunno about the murder being an organized protest of sorts Maxey. When there are more than one things get leaked.

I see other health care companies are locking down executives including CVS. Corporate America is alarmed

You think CEO shootings might be the new school shootings in ‘Merica? Again, you can’t overstate the mood out there. Who doesn’t want to be a hero?

Does law enforcement will have to kill the suspect to prevent him from becoming a cult hero? This story needs to die. Lets see.

[TheXFactor]

Maybe NYPD shouldn't depend so much on ChatGPT to do investigations.

[BCR]

Having to sift through the love letters and marriage proposals this kid gets while being held is going to require a staff. Absolute freaks who are serial killers get a lot of mail.

I can’t do a search for any new developments without seeing girls gushing about this kid. I’m not sure I can think of anything like this in modern times.


A killing where ideologically a large percentage of the population agrees with you. Something like Ross Ulbricht is the closest thing I can think of, but he was a dorky tech kid who went with no resistance and was scared and didn’t really kill anyone, just tried to put out a hit.

This kid is way more brazen.

Like part Ross and part something 60s/early 70s like Weather Underground in the age of the internet if his motives are any of what we think. He goes down in a shootout and has a well written manifesto and I can see him becoming the American Che and we should probably be printing out the shirts already. I’m sure someone has.