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      Sanlmar: good work detective

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    DEI for the win.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    It should be a lot more, but I made some poker and investment mistakes a few years ago which set me back. When I retire at age 60 I probably will only have $7 or $8 million, and yes, I am not proud of that, so you got me there.
    LOL DANG YOU INVESTED IN DRUFF? BOZO MOVE BRO


     
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    the building security dept kid prolly lost his job shortly after posting the footage

    I was trying to read the menu on the left but couldn’t

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    Im guessing a very angry group of people lost a lot of money.

    https://twitter.com/shipwreckshow/status/1864342434370683248

    Take whatever guess as to who the "group" is. They ran a professional hit, whoever they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post


    a pretty reliable war porn account on twitter thinks its a glock 19 with subsonic ammo, hence him needing to cycle the rounds manually.

    fwiw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
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    So you are public shitter too? I knew you were broke like her but didn’t know that. Thanks for the update!
    If you define broke by having nearly $3.5M in cash, stocks and assets, ok then. I am certainly not wealthy, in fact I consider myself somewhat of a failure to only have $3.5M at the age of 50. It should be a lot more, but I made some poker and investment mistakes a few years ago which set me back. When I retire at age 60 I probably will only have $7 or $8 million, and yes, I am not proud of that, so you got me there.
    As you say, I don’t mean to be a dick but I call bullshit, that meltdown over that 2k bet loss would not have happened to a millionaire. That plus multiple dupes history leans more toward multiple mental illnesses.

    Keep going champ.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Big favorite is a relative of a disgruntled customer, who died as a result of United's lack of coverage of something.

    Second is an angry ex-employee.

    Third is something from his personal life.

    The reason #1 is such a big favorite is that the consequences of insurance decisions can be huge. Or sometimes the correct decision (for example, to stop paying for expensive treatments of inoperable terminal cancer) still appears to be cold and callous, and the company gets blamed.

    I've heard a number of times over the years from people, "X doctor killed my mom", "My dad is dead because of how shitty Y hospital is", or "My sister died because of the incompetence of Z insurance company".

    It wouldn't be surprising to see someone in this spot completely snap and go after those they deem responsible.

    If he were a CEO of any company which didn't make decisions which majorly affect people's personal lives, I would lean more toward an angry ex-employee or someone with a personal grudge. Here I think it's highly likely to be related to someone's coverage.

    It's even possible that the killer's own coverage for something big was denied or kept at a minimum, and this was his revenge. Didn't have to be a dead relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Big favorite is a relative of a disgruntled customer, who died as a result of United's lack of coverage of something.

    Second is an angry ex-employee.

    Third is something from his personal life.

    The reason #1 is such a big favorite is that the consequences of insurance decisions can be huge. Or sometimes the correct decision (for example, to stop paying for expensive treatments of inoperable terminal cancer) still appears to be cold and callous, and the company gets blamed.

    I've heard a number of times over the years from people, "X doctor killed my mom", "My dad is dead because of how shitty Y hospital is", or "My sister died because of the incompetence of Z insurance company".

    It wouldn't be surprising to see someone in this spot completely snap and go after those they deem responsible.

    If he were a CEO of any company which didn't make decisions which majorly affect people's personal lives, I would lean more toward an angry ex-employee or someone with a personal grudge. Here I think it's highly likely to be related to someone's coverage.

    It's even possible that the killer's own coverage for something big was denied or kept at a minimum, and this was his revenge. Didn't have to be a dead relative.
    Yeah, but how did the killer know he would be staying across the street and walking across to the Hilton for a conference? How would an average customer know that? Wouldn't they just gun him down outside his house in Minnesota?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Big favorite is a relative of a disgruntled customer, who died as a result of United's lack of coverage of something.

    Second is an angry ex-employee.

    Third is something from his personal life.

    The reason #1 is such a big favorite is that the consequences of insurance decisions can be huge. Or sometimes the correct decision (for example, to stop paying for expensive treatments of inoperable terminal cancer) still appears to be cold and callous, and the company gets blamed.

    I've heard a number of times over the years from people, "X doctor killed my mom", "My dad is dead because of how shitty Y hospital is", or "My sister died because of the incompetence of Z insurance company".

    It wouldn't be surprising to see someone in this spot completely snap and go after those they deem responsible.

    If he were a CEO of any company which didn't make decisions which majorly affect people's personal lives, I would lean more toward an angry ex-employee or someone with a personal grudge. Here I think it's highly likely to be related to someone's coverage.

    It's even possible that the killer's own coverage for something big was denied or kept at a minimum, and this was his revenge. Didn't have to be a dead relative.
    Yeah, but how did the killer know he would be staying across the street and walking across to the Hilton for a conference? How would an average customer know that? Wouldn't they just gun him down outside his house in Minnesota?
    Yeah, I disagree with every Druff option. This is a hit.

    If they somehow find the guy tomorrow hiding in an NYC Jew tunnel, then jokes on me.

    My guess is this killer is enjoying his six figure payday far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Big favorite is a relative of a disgruntled customer, who died as a result of United's lack of coverage of something.

    Second is an angry ex-employee.

    Third is something from his personal life.

    The reason #1 is such a big favorite is that the consequences of insurance decisions can be huge. Or sometimes the correct decision (for example, to stop paying for expensive treatments of inoperable terminal cancer) still appears to be cold and callous, and the company gets blamed.

    I've heard a number of times over the years from people, "X doctor killed my mom", "My dad is dead because of how shitty Y hospital is", or "My sister died because of the incompetence of Z insurance company".

    It wouldn't be surprising to see someone in this spot completely snap and go after those they deem responsible.

    If he were a CEO of any company which didn't make decisions which majorly affect people's personal lives, I would lean more toward an angry ex-employee or someone with a personal grudge. Here I think it's highly likely to be related to someone's coverage.

    It's even possible that the killer's own coverage for something big was denied or kept at a minimum, and this was his revenge. Didn't have to be a dead relative.
    Yeah, but how did the killer know he would be staying across the street and walking across to the Hilton for a conference? How would an average customer know that? Wouldn't they just gun him down outside his house in Minnesota?
    Alan Dershowitz just implied that he thinks because there was an active investigation in United Healthcare on insider trading, this was an organized hit. Who knows, but I go back to the fact only a very few would know he would be walking from his hotel to the Hilton at 6:45am for a conference. It's virtually impossible some random customer would have known that, someone knew his schedule and when he was entering the hotel lobby. The conference started at 8am, so someone knew he was likely meeting someone for breakfast at 7am. And its not some guy pissed off about his coverage. I know that hotel very well, its about as populated as it gets, you are just not walking around with a silencer unless you have been paid.

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    Just pull up any YouTube on the United CEO and read the comments. Not a lotta tears

    The country is in quite a pissed off mood ‘bout EVERYTHING.

    The public may start pulling for the shooter like they did for DB Cooper or Bonnie and Clyde.

    Really interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Big favorite is a relative of a disgruntled customer, who died as a result of United's lack of coverage of something.

    Second is an angry ex-employee.

    Third is something from his personal life.

    The reason #1 is such a big favorite is that the consequences of insurance decisions can be huge. Or sometimes the correct decision (for example, to stop paying for expensive treatments of inoperable terminal cancer) still appears to be cold and callous, and the company gets blamed.

    I've heard a number of times over the years from people, "X doctor killed my mom", "My dad is dead because of how shitty Y hospital is", or "My sister died because of the incompetence of Z insurance company".

    It wouldn't be surprising to see someone in this spot completely snap and go after those they deem responsible.

    If he were a CEO of any company which didn't make decisions which majorly affect people's personal lives, I would lean more toward an angry ex-employee or someone with a personal grudge. Here I think it's highly likely to be related to someone's coverage.

    It's even possible that the killer's own coverage for something big was denied or kept at a minimum, and this was his revenge. Didn't have to be a dead relative.
    https://www.economicliberties.us/dat...abuse-tracker/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardeight View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Big favorite is a relative of a disgruntled customer, who died as a result of United's lack of coverage of something.

    Second is an angry ex-employee.

    Third is something from his personal life.

    The reason #1 is such a big favorite is that the consequences of insurance decisions can be huge. Or sometimes the correct decision (for example, to stop paying for expensive treatments of inoperable terminal cancer) still appears to be cold and callous, and the company gets blamed.

    I've heard a number of times over the years from people, "X doctor killed my mom", "My dad is dead because of how shitty Y hospital is", or "My sister died because of the incompetence of Z insurance company".

    It wouldn't be surprising to see someone in this spot completely snap and go after those they deem responsible.

    If he were a CEO of any company which didn't make decisions which majorly affect people's personal lives, I would lean more toward an angry ex-employee or someone with a personal grudge. Here I think it's highly likely to be related to someone's coverage.

    It's even possible that the killer's own coverage for something big was denied or kept at a minimum, and this was his revenge. Didn't have to be a dead relative.
    https://www.economicliberties.us/dat...abuse-tracker/
    Is United Health regarded as the Wells Fargo of insurance or just typically crummy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Is United Health regarded as the Wells Fargo of insurance or just typically crummy?

    the telehealth therapists there earn $40 an hour max. UHC bills insurance carriers $120-$200 an hour. above and beyond their incredible coverage refusal grifts, that spells out the regime this guy was championing.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Is United Health regarded as the Wells Fargo of insurance or just typically crummy?

    the telehealth therapists there earn $40 an hour max. UHC bills insurance carriers $120-$200 an hour. above and beyond their incredible coverage refusal grifts, that spells out the regime this guy was championing.
    I suspect when AI can get licensed we can drive that $40 number down

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    uhhhh apparently this guy left a message on one of the bullet casings.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    The crowd reaction to this has tipped me. I’ve been more than a little bit cynical about current events and the Trump election and cabinet choices. Fading the public is my safe place

    Look, the public has paid for the ride. Let the mob attack the institutions. Let the chaos reign. You have to let them act out before we can move forward…. or move to the Netherlands.

    It’s the 4th turning and all that. The catharsis.

    I’m ready now.

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