Never been healthier other than numerous horrible injuries I obtained in a recent brawlOriginally Posted by Sanlmar
Never been healthier other than numerous horrible injuries I obtained in a recent brawl
in the hospitals i have been in, it is nearly if not impossible to discern the difference b/n a na and a dr. not saying it didn't happen in your cases, but a colonoscopy is as routine as it gets for them and they would lose money standing over you for the entire procedure, guaranteed. their business model doesn't work that way.How do you doubt this?
I saw the doctor administering it both times.
If you look earlier in the thread, you’ll see I talked my way out of this charge.
You probably can too.
The first time it happened I told them I’d pay $100 or $0….they took the $100.
Next time the doctor told me to call the PPO for balance billing and the insurance covered it…by paying me which I then paid the doctor…wtf?
I can't say 100% he didn't walk away and let someone else monitor me, but the guy administering the propofol to put me out was definitely an MD. Same with my previous colonoscopy in a separate facility. Both facilities also guaranteed me that a doctor would be the one doing it and monitoring me.in the hospitals i have been in, it is nearly if not impossible to discern the difference b/n a na and a dr. not saying it didn't happen in your cases, but a colonoscopy is as routine as it gets for them and they would lose money standing over you for the entire procedure, guaranteed. their business model doesn't work that way.
These colonoscopies usually go quickly (10-20 min), so the doctors can make plenty, as these colonoscopy centers are like mills.
I think the reason the dude was annoyed regarding my 5am bottle of water was that he now had to waste additional time emptying my stomach, when they were already running over an hour late.
Yup, you can often talk the PPO into paying, if you have an individual plan. They are much less flexible with group plans, but for anesthesia, they will sometimes still cover it upon appeal.
The first time it happened I told them I’d pay $100 or $0….they took the $100.
Next time the doctor told me to call the PPO for balance billing and the insurance covered it…by paying me which I then paid the doctor…wtf?
Since I've already got my psychological issue exemption covered last time, I'm gonna take that same line when I get the bill this time.
Thanks to this thread, I emailed my doctor to do a follow up as I think Druff and I got this procedure done at the same timeframe last time.
If you had no polyps last time, and no family history of colon cancer/polyps, you can go 5-10 years between them.
And once you're old enough, if no polyps have ever been found, you can stop them completely, as the risk of the procedure no longer justifies any possible preventative gain. My mom does not get them anymore for this reason. I am stuck doing them for life.
I got off cheap this time.
Expected a 4-figure bill. They gave me all kinds of crazy figures on the phone last year, but couldn't fully explain them.
When I got there, they collected about $300 from me, for my "expected patient responsibility". I thought to myself that I'd be happy if it ended up just that amount, plus the $65 for the useless initial e-visit (required), plus the $200 for the propofol which I was going to try and fight with insurance to pay.
Anyway, the bills and EOBs came.
Propofol was covered somehow this time, and my portion was $47.
The colonoscopy itself was.... ZERO POINT ZERO.
They cut me a check back for the amount I paid at the appointment.
So it looks like the entire thing cost me $112.
Maybe it's because they found nothing, but who knows? Not going to question it.
Druff Daniel Negreanu is stealing your Colonoscopy content
https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/status/1790911049186832452
He probably dropped some N bombs in Jamaican Dexter accent which were surreptitiously edited out
Had Colonoscopy #6 today. Prep was disgusting as always, the better tasting junk cost extra.
It’s only two pints of prep so pretty easy to power through it.
5 years til #7.
Mom killed by colon cancer and inept doctors back in the day only looking as far as Sigmoid colon.
I am a few months late of my second one, what I found is the procedure itself is easy as you don't remember any of it while it happens, but yeah the prep sucks. The first bottle I can handle at 7pm, the second one at 5am not so much. I remember vividly puking sitting on the toilet all over my knees. They say after the procedure never to sign any financial documents or legal documents until 4 hours has passed. I can see why, I made two phone calls after I was done, before I slept half a day, I have zero recollection of either call. I talked to both people the next day, they say I sounded perfectly normal, but I could not remember any of it, scary shit. I believe the drugs they put in you killed Michael Jackson.
The good tasting stuff is called SuFlave, maybe see if you can get it.
Good thing you are used to taking it up the ass.
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It must be a sad sight when you get a colonoscopy, takes what three to lift you out of your wheel chair, and then remove your colon bag before you collapse on the table? Oh geez this fucking guy again the nurses must mutter. You probably splatter liquid shit all over them during the procedure. Every nurse probably requests the day off when they see your name in the appointment book.Good thing you are used to taking it up the ass.
A relative of mine went for a colonoscopy today at the same place I went last time. Keep in mind this is a different facility from the one I used in 2021, but the same as the one I did in late 2023.
My experience was, no pun intended, shitty.
Recall this is what I wrote in December 2023:
I was unhappy about this whole thing because I couldn't get a straight answer out of them regarding how long to avoid drinking before the procedure.Oddly they were concerned that I drank water 4 1/2 hours before the procedure (which became 5 1/2 because they were running late), because their instructions said "not to drink after midnight". However, they both told me on the phone that I could drink up to 4 hours beforehand, and their afternoon colonoscopy instructions also state you can drink up to 4 hours before. So it made zero sense why they were annoyed. My guess is because they were running behind, they didn't want another thing to worry about.
They said they would "empty my stomach" while I was knocked out, in order to prevent aspiration of the water in there. Transparent to me because I was asleep for it.
Not sure what I'll do next time, as I really don't want to go an absurd number of hours with no water. I was already thirsty as it was.
Anyway I'll worry about this in 3 1/2 years when I do my next one.
Note above that there were dueling instruction sheets on their website -- one which said "no drinking after midnight" (which would be a minimum of 7 hours, as their first procedure is at 7am), and the other which said "no drinking more than 4 hours beforehand".
So I was annoyed that I got a lecture about not following instructions for having drank 5 1/2 hours before the procedure.
But the bigger problem was how late they were. My procedure was 9:30am, with an 8:30am checkin time. They didn't get going with this until 11am, meaning they were 90 minutes late. That's probably why they were annoyed they were going to have to waste extra time "emptying my stomach".
Anyway, upon reading reviews, I saw that lateness is a chronic problem there. Some reviews claimed they were as much as 3 hours late.
However, that paled in comparison to what my relative went through.
Like me, this person sat for 90 minutes past their assigned time, waiting for it to start. Then they were informed that the anesthesiologist "didn't show up", which was bizarre because this was now 10:00am. How could they not know this until 3 hours into the day?
They claimed that the only options would be to reschedule (awful, having gone through the prep) or to take "twilight sedation", which basically takes you back to the 1990s before propofol was available. Amazingly, everyone there just shrugged their shoulders and took the twilight sedation, without questioning anything. My relative spoke up and said absolutely not, I don't want to be awake for this at all, and I also don't want to have wasted my prep and time spent here this morning. After a lot of arguing, they convinced another doctor and anesthesiologist in the facility to do the colonoscopy, so the propofol could be used. Not sure why it also had to be a different doctor, but I'll get to my theory in a second.
Anyway, this place is full of fail. They're nearly impossible to reach on the phone, you can't get a straight answer out of them when you do, and apparently they overbook the colonoscopies and run way behind. I am not going back there.
What do I think happened today? I think they fell so behind today that they made up the "anesthesiologist didn't show up" story, because it sounded better than the truth. By cutting out the propofol, which is time consuming, they can speed everything up and catch up. I think the reason the doctor also switched was because that was who was behind. If it were just the anesthesiologist, why not keep the same doctor and use the other anesthesiologist? I guess it's possible they work in pairs, but the fact that they took 3 hours to realize that the anesthesiologist didn't show up is highly suspect, especially given how this place is known to run way behind.
Inconvenience aside, I also don't trust this place to do my colonoscopy anymore, if they're always in a rush. Not only can they miss polyps that way (now I'm a little concerned about my unexpected "no polyps" result last time), but they can also perforate the colon if they are rushing through it.
My advice: Check reviews, avoid anywhere that the reviews suck.
The big issue is if they missed polyps is you insisted on drinking gatorade, rather than drinking the solution they recommended which actually cleans you out. The solution forces you to shit everything out of your system, gatorade does not do that. You sound like Steve Jobs who insisted on eating vitamins to cure his cancer, even he admitted at the end he should have just followed mainstream treatments rather than do his own thing. If one day you start crapping blood, look in the mirror and admit you fucked up.
My prep was listed as "good" on both after-visit forms, and they had no visibility issues.
The Gatorade prep has been considered just as good as the awful-tasting solution, and has been used for the past 20 years or so. Studies on the two preps show that the Gatorade is either equal or slightly better.
Also, Steve Jobs, while a weirdo, couldn't have beaten his cancer anyway. He had pancreatic cancer. You're fucked when diagnosed with that. About 5% get lucky and live awhile with it. Everyone else dies fast. It's the worst form of cancer.
That's just RFK shit. If Gatorade were better, insurance companies would embrace it, it would be 90% cheaper. You are just making stuff up, I have known many people have colonoscopys never once did I hear the gatorade treatment until, well you, but most people do not search the internet for medical treatments. As far as Jobs go, he had the pancreatic cancer that was curable, like the 10% kind, it was caught early not late. He was just too stubborn not to radiate it at its source and decided to do the organic shit. He waited a year before going mainstream treatments, then he got very sick and decided to get his head right. He did live another 7 years, which is unusual for pancreatic cancer, but here again, he did not have the fatal kind initially. If he had not fucked around with homemade gatorade treatments he might have made it another 10 years.
My prep was listed as "good" on both after-visit forms, and they had no visibility issues.
The Gatorade prep has been considered just as good as the awful-tasting solution, and has been used for the past 20 years or so. Studies on the two preps show that the Gatorade is either equal or slightly better.
Also, Steve Jobs, while a weirdo, couldn't have beaten his cancer anyway. He had pancreatic cancer. You're fucked when diagnosed with that. About 5% get lucky and live awhile with it. Everyone else dies fast. It's the worst form of cancer.
Tgull is correct on Jobs, he had the better version of Pacreatic cancer.
Just last Saturday I met a guy with pancreatic cancer, said he had just retired and was diagnosed 13 weeks later. He was watching the OU v Alabama game saying that he and Jalen Hurts’ father were friends.
Felt sorry for him, he was bald from the chemo, I thought him and his wife were leaving but it turns out they just went outside to smoke.
Dude is pulling a Swayze.
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