Also, Marquez did offer random blood and urine testing, and Top Rank shot it down. Marquez has also said that no matter who he fights next, that there will be random blood and urine testing leading up to the fight. Maybe he's not clean, but he's not running away from the testing.
Originally Posted by JMM
That's pretty much what Mayweather said about Pacquiao. He has too much other shit going on, and doesn't concentrate on boxing like he should.
Pacquiao said that Marquez's punches didn't feel any stronger, he just didn't see the shot coming, and walked into it.
Marquez is probably on some shit. But Manny is probably on some shit, too. And when your whole stance has been "Let the commission do it's job", you can't really start complaining that someone else is on something.
Rank speculation. Do you have one shred of evidence to back up that? Of course not.
How about you take Floyd's black cock out of your mouth for 5 seconds and comment on a fighter who we actually have some evidence on and apparently failed multiple tests.
Here is a recap for you in case you missed it:
“Mayweather is not doing Olympic-style testing,” Conte states. “I’ve never liked the use of that phrase. ‘Olympic’ means 24-7-365. To be effective, drug testing has to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months. That means athletes can develop their strength and speed base early and the benefits of PED use will last after that use has been discontinued. If you wait to start testing until eight to 10 weeks in advance of a fight, which is what Mayweather does, that’s not Olympic-style testing. Who knows what Mayweather or his opponent has been doing during the previous six months?”
Tests for a Mayweather fight generally begin around the time of the kick-off press tour heralding Floyd’s annual ring appearance. Floyd and his opponent agree to keep USADA advised as to their whereabouts and submit to an unlimited number of unannounced blood and urine tests. Other details (such as what drugs are being tested for, how samples are analyzed and what happens in the event of a positive test) are murky.
Mayweather and his promoter (Golden Boy Promotions) have gone to great lengths to propagate the notion that they’re in the forefront of PED testing to “clean up” boxing. In return, they’ve reaped a public relations bonanza. But some members of Team Mayweather haven’t been content to simply disseminate a positive message with regard to Floyd’s conduct. They’ve chosen instead to brand Pacquiao (Mayweather’s chief rival) as a PED user.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. declared, “[Pacquiao] can’t beat Clottey without that sh*t in him. He couldn’t beat De la Hoya without that sh*t. He couldn’t beat Ricky Hatton without that sh*t. And he couldn’t beat Cotto without that sh*t. I don’t even think he could beat that kid from Chicago [David Diaz] without that sh*t. He wouldn’t be able to beat any of those guys without enhancement drugs.”
Not to be outdone, Roger Mayweather proclaimed, “This mother**ker don’t want to take the test. That’s why the fight [Mayweather vs. Pacquiao] didn’t happen. He got that sh*t in him. That’s why he didn’t want to take the test.”
References to Pacquiao’s alleged PED use by the other defendants in the defamation action were more subtle. But their message was similar.
The court case moved slowly as litigation often does. Last year, the claims against Schaefer and De la Hoya were dismissed with the consent of Pacquiao’s attorneys after Richard and Oscar apologized and stated that they had never meant to suggest that Manny was using performance-enhancing drugs.
The Mayweathers continued to fight the complaint. Floyd’s conduct in failing to appear for a scheduled deposition on several occasions displeased the court and infuriated Pacquiao’s attorneys. The case looked like it would be a long battle of attrition. Then things changed dramatically.
Under standard sports drug-testing protocols, when blood or urine is taken from an athlete, it’s divided into an “A” and “B” sample. The “A” sample is tested first. If it tests negative, end of story. If the “A” sample tests positive, the athlete then has the right to demand that the “B” sample be tested. If the “B” sample tests negative, the athlete is presumed to be clean. But if the “B” sample also tests positive, the first positive finding is confirmed and the athlete has a problem.
On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.
More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).
In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.
The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.
On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.
As part of the settlement, the Mayweathers and Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”
I don’t know if Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs or not.
I do know that, if Mayweather’s “A” sample tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug on one or more occasions and he was given a waiver by USADA that concealed this fact from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his opponent and the public, we have an ingredient that could contribute to the making of a scandal.
Marquez iced a guy with one punch.
Rank speculation. Do you have one shred of evidence to back up that? Of course not.
How about you take Floyd's black cock out of your mouth for 5 seconds and comment on a fighter who we actually have some evidence on and apparently failed multiple tests.
Here is a recap for you in case you missed it:
“Mayweather is not doing Olympic-style testing,” Conte states. “I’ve never liked the use of that phrase. ‘Olympic’ means 24-7-365. To be effective, drug testing has to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months. That means athletes can develop their strength and speed base early and the benefits of PED use will last after that use has been discontinued. If you wait to start testing until eight to 10 weeks in advance of a fight, which is what Mayweather does, that’s not Olympic-style testing. Who knows what Mayweather or his opponent has been doing during the previous six months?”
Tests for a Mayweather fight generally begin around the time of the kick-off press tour heralding Floyd’s annual ring appearance. Floyd and his opponent agree to keep USADA advised as to their whereabouts and submit to an unlimited number of unannounced blood and urine tests. Other details (such as what drugs are being tested for, how samples are analyzed and what happens in the event of a positive test) are murky.
Mayweather and his promoter (Golden Boy Promotions) have gone to great lengths to propagate the notion that they’re in the forefront of PED testing to “clean up” boxing. In return, they’ve reaped a public relations bonanza. But some members of Team Mayweather haven’t been content to simply disseminate a positive message with regard to Floyd’s conduct. They’ve chosen instead to brand Pacquiao (Mayweather’s chief rival) as a PED user.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. declared, “[Pacquiao] can’t beat Clottey without that sh*t in him. He couldn’t beat De la Hoya without that sh*t. He couldn’t beat Ricky Hatton without that sh*t. And he couldn’t beat Cotto without that sh*t. I don’t even think he could beat that kid from Chicago [David Diaz] without that sh*t. He wouldn’t be able to beat any of those guys without enhancement drugs.”
Not to be outdone, Roger Mayweather proclaimed, “This mother**ker don’t want to take the test. That’s why the fight [Mayweather vs. Pacquiao] didn’t happen. He got that sh*t in him. That’s why he didn’t want to take the test.”
References to Pacquiao’s alleged PED use by the other defendants in the defamation action were more subtle. But their message was similar.
The court case moved slowly as litigation often does. Last year, the claims against Schaefer and De la Hoya were dismissed with the consent of Pacquiao’s attorneys after Richard and Oscar apologized and stated that they had never meant to suggest that Manny was using performance-enhancing drugs.
The Mayweathers continued to fight the complaint. Floyd’s conduct in failing to appear for a scheduled deposition on several occasions displeased the court and infuriated Pacquiao’s attorneys. The case looked like it would be a long battle of attrition. Then things changed dramatically.
Under standard sports drug-testing protocols, when blood or urine is taken from an athlete, it’s divided into an “A” and “B” sample. The “A” sample is tested first. If it tests negative, end of story. If the “A” sample tests positive, the athlete then has the right to demand that the “B” sample be tested. If the “B” sample tests negative, the athlete is presumed to be clean. But if the “B” sample also tests positive, the first positive finding is confirmed and the athlete has a problem.
On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.
More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).
In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.
The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.
On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.
As part of the settlement, the Mayweathers and Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”
I don’t know if Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs or not.
I do know that, if Mayweather’s “A” sample tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug on one or more occasions and he was given a waiver by USADA that concealed this fact from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his opponent and the public, we have an ingredient that could contribute to the making of a scandal.
Pacquiao moved up in weight, got stronger, got faster, iced a guy with one punch, and manhandled guys much bigger than he is.
Both throw up huge red flags.
Why don't you take my cock out of your mouth for 5 seconds, and realize that we weren't even talking about Mayweather, you ignorant fuck. It's funny how you follow me around this thread like I'm the fucking Boxing spokesperson. Always trying to get me to say some bad shit about something YOU don't like.
"Why doesn't JMM ever bring up the robberies in boxing"
"Why doesn't JMM ever say anything bad about Floyd Mayweather"
Boo fucking hoo, already. Off my jock. This instant.
Khan/Molina over 9.5 rounds (+155) - Khan on record saying he's not fighting for the KO. But he is picking on a light punching lightweight, so only small on it.
Kelvin Price (+330) - Step up fight for Wilder. Wilder could win it, but the price is right.
People get robbed in boxing. Floyd Mayweather is a meanie.
Think I covered everything.
GAME, SET, MATCH.
Pacquiao vs Marquez 4 was a great fight.
Especially when they stopped tap dancing around in the ring and made it a street fight in round #3.
Juan Manuel Marquez trained twice as hard than Pacquiao for this fight. Pacquiao was the one who looked old and tired.
Will there be a re-match? I doubt it, seeing Pacquiao's wife crying at the end, I don't think she'll let him.
As for Marquez, retire now. Don't have another re-match with Mayweather, so Floyd could look heroic knocking out a 40 year old.
Marquez is talking like he might actually retire. Pacquiao has been pretty clear about fighting on.
I don't think Mayweather would knock him out. But he would box his ears off, again. It's a bad match up for Marquez. Always will be. He won't look heroic doing it, imo, because he's already done it once.
But, of course, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a meanie.
1-1. Profit.
Khan apparently fractured both hands beating down the lightweight. He needs to avenge the Garcia loss, imo, but there is already talks of Josesito Lopez next. Good fight. A fight Khan should win, but Lopez is the right kind of fighter to make it a long night for Khan.
Wilder has a thunderous right hand....aaaaaaaaaand not much else. Look forward to seeing him in with Tyson Fury if they make that fight happen.
I think it's fair to say that Adrien Broner is most likely going to end up one day as the best p4p fighter out there. Only a matter of time till he moves up to Junior Welterweight. Kid is only 23 now, not even close to his prime and already could probably beat the majority of fighters in that weight class. I hate his cockiness, but he is the real deal and very entertaining to watch.
I agree with everything your saying. The guy is a beast and I'm not sure who can hang with him especially in a few years as he's just going to get better. He is cocky as hell but he's still several levels behind Mayweather in that department.
Yeah, he seems to be a much smarter guy than Mayweather is as well. I don't see me hating him for his cockiness down the road, I think it's more comedic than anything. His line last night when asked what his best shot was cracked me up... "My best shot is when someone takes a picture of me"...lol He definitely does have some things in common with Mayweather, like the shoulder defense and counter punching expertise, but from what I've seen so far he is a much more offensive fighter than Mayweather ever was. Really looking forward to watching his career, hopefully it doesn't disappoint. Shame the books are already sharp to this guy, won't be able to make any money on him unless he goes up against a big talent in the next year or two, which I doubt happens. LOL @ 80-1 at some books yesterday. Lowest I saw was 40-1, and even that was ridiculous.I agree with everything your saying. The guy is a beast and I'm not sure who can hang with him especially in a few years as he's just going to get better. He is cocky as hell but he's still several levels behind Mayweather in that department.
He's cocky but it seems that won't hurt him in regards to taking fighters lightly,etc... I look forward to seeing how his career unfolds as well.
40-1 is too much chalk to lay on anything. I mean what are you going to to bet $4k to win $100? No Thanks! It's probably as near of a lock as you can get but anyone can get caught, get hurt not saying it before the fight, or have a real off day. It's not that likely but the fact is you can find way better bets. Tyson was 42-1 favorite vs Douglas when Douglas defeated him.
Since it's one of the next upcoming fights I just want to say I've allways liked Bernard Hopkins but the guy is a dinosaur and needs to retire already.
Obv I'm from Philly, but I haven't been excited for a B-Hop fight since he fought Dela Hoya.
Wrap it up B.
Broner is for real. No doubt about it. Crazy how easily he makes 135, too. He's a pretty big dude.
I don't know who the hell is out there that can beat him. A lot of people throwing Burns' name out there. LOL. And even more people throwing little ole Gamboa in the mix. Gamboa is fast, but he's just too small. Broner would beat the absolute hell of out him, imo.
Peterson/Holt on FNF's this weekend. Peterson is more skilled, but he's off the PED's now, hasn't fought since 2011, and Holt hits like a truck so +315 looks pretty good if you're looking for a semi-long shot.
Also, if anyone has any thoughts on Rigondeaux/Donaire, I'd love to hear 'em.
I think Rigondeaux has the skills to win, but I don't know if he has the workrate. I could easily see him back peddling and counter punching most of the fight, and getting out worked in a decision win for Donaire. I'm interested to see the odds.
Yeah I watched Broner Sat night, he is the real deal. He is fucking huge for 135, that little Welchman gave him a good fight though even at 80-1 or whatever the odds were.
Too bad I also caught the interview before the fight, where Broner solidified himself as the biggest fucking d bag to ever step in the ring. Just what the sport needs, another self absorbed over the top asshole like "Money" Mayweather to carry it's water for the next 10 years.
Mayweather/Guerrero May 4th on Showtime. Mayweather signed a 6 fight, 30 month deal. Though, it states he will fight UP TO 6 times. No way he fights 6 more times.
44-0
Yeah, for sure.44-0
I don't really mind the Guerrero fight. At least RG will try to bring it. Alexander would have been a fucking mess.
Not sure who he'll be fighting in the future, now that he's with Showtime. Sergio is rightfully out of the question. There's no way that Mayweather can make 160 (nor should he be expected to), and that's the only weight he'll get any credit for a win at.
If it ends up going something like Guerrero/Alexander/Malignaggi, I will lose my fucking mind.
Though, I'm not even entirely sure Alexander is going to beat Kell Brook.
:yawn
Will. Not. Watch.
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