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    probably just some more of that false/mis/disinformation that he spewed out of his mouth at the 4min. 40 sec. mark...
    but some Libtard in the comments will say the dude is lying... and ta da... the dude must be lying... cause a Libtard said so...


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    Yea Biden Harris sucks but look at this fuckin grifter.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Attention libs:

    Are you saying this isn't true?

    It's true that FEMA is running out of money. Even AP admits this: https://apnews.com/article/hurricane...6830410cf2c1cb

    Can someone point me to a credible source stating that the claim about it going to illegals isn't true? The GOP has been running with this, and you'd think there would be an effective counter from the Dems if it weren't true.
    It's on you to provide evidence for your claims. The link you provided did not mention that. Not one word in that link supports any false claim re: "illegals"
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Attention libs:

    Are you saying this isn't true?

    It's true that FEMA is running out of money. Even AP admits this: https://apnews.com/article/hurricane...6830410cf2c1cb

    Can someone point me to a credible source stating that the claim about it going to illegals isn't true? The GOP has been running with this, and you'd think there would be an effective counter from the Dems if it weren't true.
    It's on you to provide evidence for your claims. The link you provided did not mention that. Not one word in that link supports any false claim re: "illegals"
    Limited for brains Les should try and ride down Niagara Falls in an inner tube.... piece of advice Les. if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about just shut the fuck up ... that should be enough grounds to go ahead and delete your account here , cause you never know what the fuck you are ever talking about...



    https://twitter.com/jesseasweeney/status/1842991678564843626

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post

    It's on you to provide evidence for your claims. The link you provided did not mention that. Not one word in that link supports any false claim re: "illegals"
    Limited for brains Les should try and ride down Niagara Falls in an inner tube.... piece of advice Les. if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about just shut the fuck up ... that should be enough grounds to go ahead and delete your account here , cause you never know what the fuck you are ever talking about...

    Then explain to me in your own words where I'm mistaken

    Watched it twice and there was not one mention of illegal immigrants. You said this.......

    "1dollarboxcar
    : did you watch that short video just above to the very end Les???!!!! her last sentence states they had diverted funds to illegal migrants... now go get your self an inner tube... and finish the job.... "

    Do you understand the difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants? It's an important distinction.

     
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      1dollarboxcar: did you watch that short video just above to the very end Les???!!!! her last sentence states they had diverted funds to illegal migrants... now go get your self an inner tube... and finish the job....
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    Upon analysis of this, here are my conclusions:

    1) FEMA isn't out of money yet, but will be broke soon enough because they are not funded enough. This is not the fault of any particular political party, but given that Biden/Harris have been in place for almost 4 years, it's laughable that just now Biden is claiming to suddenly have a need for more FEMA funding. He could have proposed this at the beginning of his term, not as his VP is trying to get reelected. With that said, the same would have happened if a devastating hurricane like this hit during the Trump years.

    2) The current under-funding of FEMA is NOT related to the funding of taking care of illegals. However, FEMA has given out $650 million for this, which is a small percentage of their overall budget. The allegation that "Trump did the same thing, but took even more money" is bullshit, as his spending was to detain illegals, not fund services for them. Truthfully this money should never be doled out by FEMA, and if it is, there needs to be a hard cap on it.

    3) FEMA is definitely preventing private citizens/companies from giving aid to civilians. There's no good reason for this. Even worse, Pete Buttigieg tried to deny this on Twitter, only for Elon Musk (one of the people trying to provide aid) to smack him down, stating it was happening to him right at that moment. He then urged Buttigieg to DM him for the details. Buttigieg did that, and "expedited the permission" for Elon's helicopter to land and provide aid. But it was hilarious how Buttigieg outright lied and said such things weren't occurring, until someone high profile like Musk provided proof. Very typical for Democrats, right along with "they're not teaching DEI in schools", "there's no pornography in school libraries", "the vaccine is safe", "crime isn't going up, it's all your imagination", etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Upon analysis of this, here are my conclusions:

    1) FEMA isn't out of money yet, but will be broke soon enough because they are not funded enough. This is not the fault of any particular political party, but given that Biden/Harris have been in place for almost 4 years, it's laughable that just now Biden is claiming to suddenly have a need for more FEMA funding. He could have proposed this at the beginning of his term, not as his VP is trying to get reelected. With that said, the same would have happened if a devastating hurricane like this hit during the Trump years.

    2) The current under-funding of FEMA is NOT related to the funding of taking care of illegals. However, FEMA has given out $650 million for this. The allegation that "Trump did the same thing, but took even more money" is bullshit, as his spending was to detain illegals, not fund services for them. Truthfully this money should never be doled out by FEMA, and if it is, there needs to be a hard cap on it.

    3) FEMA is definitely preventing private citizens/companies from giving aid to civilians. There's no good reason for this. Even worse, Pete Buttigieg tried to deny this on Twitter, only for Elon Musk (one of the people trying to provide aid) to smack him down, stating it was happening to him right at that moment. He then urged Buttigieg to DM him for the details. Buttigieg did that, and "expedited the permission" for Elon's helicopter to land and provide aid. But it was hilarious how Buttigieg outright lied and said such things weren't occurring, until someone high profile like Musk provided proof. Very typical for Democrats, right along with "they're not teaching DEI in schools", "there's no pornography in school libraries", "the vaccine is safe", "crime isn't going up, it's all your imagination", etc.
    BS... DHS is the the one that allocates funds to FEMA... DHS tolled out the money through FEMA for migrant camps, food, medical and all the other free benefits to ILLEGALS... THIS IS WHY FEMA IS UNDER FUNDED.... WAIT FOR IT...WAIT FOR IT... CAUSE DHS GAVE MOST OF THE MONEY TO SUPPORT ILLEGALS... THUS UNDER FUNDING FEMA.... WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Upon analysis of this, here are my conclusions:

    1) FEMA isn't out of money yet, but will be broke soon enough because they are not funded enough. This is not the fault of any particular political party, but given that Biden/Harris have been in place for almost 4 years, it's laughable that just now Biden is claiming to suddenly have a need for more FEMA funding. He could have proposed this at the beginning of his term, not as his VP is trying to get reelected. With that said, the same would have happened if a devastating hurricane like this hit during the Trump years.

    2) The current under-funding of FEMA is NOT related to the funding of taking care of illegals. However, FEMA has given out $650 million for this. The allegation that "Trump did the same thing, but took even more money" is bullshit, as his spending was to detain illegals, not fund services for them. Truthfully this money should never be doled out by FEMA, and if it is, there needs to be a hard cap on it.

    3) FEMA is definitely preventing private citizens/companies from giving aid to civilians. There's no good reason for this. Even worse, Pete Buttigieg tried to deny this on Twitter, only for Elon Musk (one of the people trying to provide aid) to smack him down, stating it was happening to him right at that moment. He then urged Buttigieg to DM him for the details. Buttigieg did that, and "expedited the permission" for Elon's helicopter to land and provide aid. But it was hilarious how Buttigieg outright lied and said such things weren't occurring, until someone high profile like Musk provided proof. Very typical for Democrats, right along with "they're not teaching DEI in schools", "there's no pornography in school libraries", "the vaccine is safe", "crime isn't going up, it's all your imagination", etc.
    You said much that is conjecture and bullshit
    You refer to "illegals" twice in your post.

    How do support your claim that "FEMA is definitely preventing private individuals or companies from giving aid to civilians?" You don't. Please provide evidence for yours claims going forward

    "Former President Donald Trump and his allies have claimed the Federal Emergency Management Agency can’t respond well enough to the aftermath of Hurricane Helene because it’s diverted so much money to helping migrants—but that’s not true, as FEMA’s funds for handling disaster relief efforts are separate from money given to immigrant communities."

    So where does the mention of illegals come from in your response?
    Migrants are citizens. Often the least advantaged. You lumped those two groups together.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...e-of-migrants/
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    les, it's true that $650m was spent on illegals. Even that Washington Post article defending Biden admitted it, in a roundabout way:

    A Trump campaign spokesman pointed to FEMA’s Shelter and Services Program, which gives grants to local governments and nonprofits to take care of undocumented immigrants. Congress boosted the budget from $360 million in fiscal year 2023 to $650 million in fiscal year 2024. The program’s 2023 annual report says it provides shelter, such as hotel/motel services, food and transportation, including plane tickets up to $700 a person.

    As we said, Congress appropriated this money, just as it did the disaster fund. There’s no evidence that any money from the disaster fund was used to help migrants.
    So basically WaPo is admitting that $650m went to FEMA helping illegals. However, FEMA gets $20 billion for disasters -- about 13x that $650m, so clearly that $650m wasn't the cause of FEMA's funding issues. However, that $650m is also stupid and should be ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Upon analysis of this, here are my conclusions:

    1) FEMA isn't out of money yet, but will be broke soon enough because they are not funded enough. This is not the fault of any particular political party, but given that Biden/Harris have been in place for almost 4 years, it's laughable that just now Biden is claiming to suddenly have a need for more FEMA funding. He could have proposed this at the beginning of his term, not as his VP is trying to get reelected. With that said, the same would have happened if a devastating hurricane like this hit during the Trump years.

    2) The current under-funding of FEMA is NOT related to the funding of taking care of illegals. However, FEMA has given out $650 million for this. The allegation that "Trump did the same thing, but took even more money" is bullshit, as his spending was to detain illegals, not fund services for them. Truthfully this money should never be doled out by FEMA, and if it is, there needs to be a hard cap on it.

    3) FEMA is definitely preventing private citizens/companies from giving aid to civilians. There's no good reason for this. Even worse, Pete Buttigieg tried to deny this on Twitter, only for Elon Musk (one of the people trying to provide aid) to smack him down, stating it was happening to him right at that moment. He then urged Buttigieg to DM him for the details. Buttigieg did that, and "expedited the permission" for Elon's helicopter to land and provide aid. But it was hilarious how Buttigieg outright lied and said such things weren't occurring, until someone high profile like Musk provided proof. Very typical for Democrats, right along with "they're not teaching DEI in schools", "there's no pornography in school libraries", "the vaccine is safe", "crime isn't going up, it's all your imagination", etc.
    BS... DHS is the the one that allocates funds to FEMA... DHS tolled out the money through FEMA for migrant camps, food, medical and all the other free benefits to ILLEGALS... THIS IS WHY FEMA IS UNDER FUNDED.... WAIT FOR IT...WAIT FOR IT... CAUSE DHS GAVE MOST OF THE MONEY TO SUPPORT ILLEGALS... THUS UNDER FUNDING FEMA.... WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???!!!!!!

    Druff writes a reasoned and measured post after actually delving into the subject and you reply with a caps lock histrionic post written like a text one would expect to see out of a teenage girl. You have quickly fought your way to the top tier of moronic posters. Not an easy feat here.

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    The real question is whats going to happen in Florida. Tampa is the bullseye for Milton and they havent taken a direct hit since 1921. If this thing shoves a 30ft storm surge up Tampa Bay which is very possible. Its gonna be a horrendous disaster. I have family there as well as around 45mi further north which likely will also get hit decently but without as much storm surge/flooding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    No shit Sherlock, because back in 2022, Moppy Head announced at a press briefing that the FEMA funds were going to illegals. So yeah, seeing the writing on the wall, they voted accordingly.


    https://www.instagram.com/foxnews/reel/DAyliE4p_4p/

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/918307613678654
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