Auto Industry Execs: EVs aren't working

[desertrunner]

No interest in ever buying a BMW, gas or EV. I’m a Honda and Toyota guy because I like reliability and longevity.

[DJ_Chaps]

Ha ha...Go woke, go broke.

Hertz is selling 20,000 electric vehicles to buy gasoline cars instead

Hertz, which has made a big push into electric vehicles in recent years, has decided it's time to cut back. The company will sell off a third of its electric fleet, totaling roughly 20,000 vehicles, and use the money it brings to purchase more gasoline-powered vehicles.

Electric vehicles have been hurting Hertz's financials, executives have said, because, despite costing less to maintain, they have higher damage-repair costs and, also, higher depreciation.

"GO WOKE GO BROKE" SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE MUPPET.

[Small_Banana]

Don't listen to the haters. Tesla's are very fun cars to drive. Very fast cars. Get the Model X and you can have them put a traditional steering wheel instead of the weird one. The regenerative braking is easy to get used to, it's like driving a golf cart.

Best place to charge on the way to Vegas is EddieWorld in Yermo. Buffalo Bill's in Primm also has high speed charging stations.

I did a radio segment partially about EddieWorld but have never stopped there.

I do like driving straight to Vegas with 0 stops sometimes, so a 15 minute stop at EddieWorld might bother me.

I have a family member with a Tesla SUV they don’t use that much, so maybe I will borrow it for like a week and see what I think of it.

Sanlmar, the SUV is a BMW. I’ve run generally well with BMWs as they age, but this SUV has been a huge pain due to the known engine issue. Sadly had I waited like 7 more months and bought a 2016, the problem would’ve been solved.

EddieWorld is great. Its like a super sized seven eleven with a food court. They have great food there. The navigation in the Tesla will let you know where all the charging stations are at and how many of them are in use and how many are available.

I have driven BMW, Lexus, Honda and Toyota. Tesla doesn't have the luxury like a BMW but the acceleration makes up for it. It is more fun to drive than any gas powered car.

[desertrunner]

[Sanlmar]

Off his iconic $60k BTC FTX ad here’s Brady humping Hertz/Tesla

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DRILL BABY DRILL.

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DRILL BABY DRILL.

If u live in the east half of your state there might be oil or natural gas under your house. Check for mineral rights in your warranty deed or title. Then contact exploration or production dept of producers in your area.

It might be more common than u know.

Drill indeed baby.

[sah_24]

Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooools ...

Can't fix stupid

[dmndkutr]

Maybe another $200 million will help

https://www.govtech.com/transportati...charging-giant

[Dan Druff]

The cold weather thing makes sense. I didn't even think about this, but it's definitely a consideration when buying an SUV, as I might want to take it to a place like Mammoth or Tahoe, which can get quite cold sometimes (sometimes below 0, and occaisonally below -10).

When I would go skiing, I would notice my battery on my cell pjone would be absolute shit. I found out that the batteries die quickly in the cold. Funny enough the battery life when skiing would depend upon the position it would sit in my jacket. If it happened to be sitting close to my body, it would be mostly okay because my body heat would keep it warm enough. If it got away from my body just a little bit, it would get substantially colder, and I'd find it dead.

[desertrunner]

Volvo, the automaker once at the forefront of the electric revolution, is officially stepping back from its pledge to go fully electric by 2030. Back in March 2021, Volvo made waves with a bold promise to ditch combustion engines entirely, aiming to offer only electric vehicles within the decade. Even as recently as May 2024, CEO Jim Rowan was still all in, confidently stating that the goal was "very achievable."

https://autodrive.com.bd/posts/volvo...zorMOyikdy8vZA

[Sanlmar]

My kid literally just did a 2 year lease on a Nissan Leaf in Colorado for $20 down and $119/mo. I’d wager it’s some kind of promotion and manufacturer sales target on EVs that aren’t selling.

Its likely Kamala will let her write it off completely.

She has absolutely no need for it but it was free. Kind of a Druff move so tip cap.

I should ask her for a review but I’m not really remotely interested to be honest. I just thought it was funny.

[desertrunner]

EVs are the metric system failure of the 2000s.

[Sanlmar]

Capital and economic controls are going to be the order of the next decade in America

Capital controls to deal with the National debt. Similarly there will be controls over scarce resources like electricity. Quite simply the distribution (wires & towers and all things copper) isn’t up to the ever growing task.

No crisis will be wasted when .gov can take a little bit more control.

For reasons that escape me now i allowed my power company access to my NEXT thermostat during peak demand in the summer. They send me a gift card for some small amount as a reward. It’s wild to see my thermostat set to 77 by big brother.

Now I live in Massachusetts and not socialist California. How will Cali control Druff’s energy. Simple rolling blackouts are a Stone Age solution. Do they replace his meter with something that monitors his usage by amount and time of day? Do they throttle him with that new meter? Does he accrue a power social credit score?

The answer is yes to all the above. There is no future where Druff is not told by California when it is permissible to charge his car and water his lawn

[splitthis]

Would never buy an electric car. I think about how fucked up you get when remote control batteries die and you don’t have spares. Multiply this feeling by 1000 and I say naw, no thanks.

That being said I cannot recommend Toyota cars enough. 200k miles and the only thing I’ve had to invest in besides usual maintenance is a pair of calipers which in reality could be considered maintenance at that number.

My first car was a ford mustang, they had some kind of fucked up paint issue but would not repaint my car unless I paid for some minor fender dent. I told them fuck off, will never buy another ford in my life and stuck to it.

Other brands I have had along the way started having issues at around 80k.

I have comfort rolling on this 200k, no fear of something fucking up. Should get 300k out of it then gonna buy another just like it.

[tgull]

Electric Cars are the same thing as the solar panel mania 25 years ago. Remember that? All roofs were going to get them? How did that work out?

There is a place for EV cars for those that want them in major cities, but the adoption rate is collapsing. It's not because people don't want clean energy, it's just they are not practical for 90% of the US population in 2024. 2124 might be a different story, but the technology won't be roaming around parking lots looking for charging stations. By then one would assume cars would be like traveling by horse, something will replace it, most likely air travel. There are many studies going on getting planes right up between the earth's atmosphere and space and let gravity move you 2000 miles in an hour. Not around the corner, but give it 50 years. We will all be dead by then, but our kids will benefit, except the childless cat ladies.

[limitles]

Electric Cars are the same thing as the solar panel mania 25 years ago. Remember that? All roofs were going to get them? How did that work out?

There is a place for EV cars for those that want them in major cities, but the adoption rate is collapsing. It's not because people don't want clean energy, it's just they are not practical for 90% of the US population in 2024. 2124 might be a different story, but the technology won't be roaming around parking lots looking for charging stations. By then one would assume cars would be like traveling by horse, something will replace it, most likely air travel. There are many studies going on getting planes right up between the earth's atmosphere and space and let gravity move you 2000 miles in an hour. Not around the corner, but give it 50 years. We will all be dead by then, but our kids will benefit, except the childless cat ladies.

"Electric cars accounted for around 18% of all cars sold in 2023, up from 14% in 2022 and only 2% 5 years earlier, in 2018. These trends indicate that growth remains robust as electric car markets mature. Battery electric cars accounted for 70% of the electric car stock in 2023.

Almost 14 million new electric cars1 were registered globally in 2023, bringing their total number on the roads to 40 million, closely tracking the sales forecast from the 2023 edition of the Global EV Outlook (GEVO-2023). Electric car sales in 2023 were 3.5 million higher than in 2022, a 35% year-on-year increase. This is more than six times higher than in 2018, just 5 years earlier. In 2023, there were over 250 000 new registrations per week, which is more than the annual total in 2013, ten years earlier."

https://www.iea.org/reports/global-e...-electric-cars


1) Norway Is the Only Country Where the Majority of Car Sales are All-Electric

Norway is one of the coldest regions in the world and is crisscrossed by fjords that make some areas difficult to access. Given concerns that EV batteries don’t run effectively in low temperatures and don’t have as long a range as gasoline vehicles, one would expect that Norway would be one of the last regions to adopt EVs. To the contrary, Norway and its Scandinavian neighbors such as Iceland and Sweden are far and away the leaders in EV adoption. Eight out of 10 passenger car sales in Norway were all-electric vehicles in 2022, with 150,000 sold in total

https://www.wri.org/insights/countries-adopting-electric-vehicles-fastest#:~:text=China%20is%20by%20far%20the,rest%2 0of%20the%20world%20combined.

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Electric Cars are the same thing as the solar panel mania 25 years ago. Remember that? All roofs were going to get them? How did that work out?

There is a place for EV cars for those that want them in major cities, but the adoption rate is collapsing. It's not because people don't want clean energy, it's just they are not practical for 90% of the US population in 2024. 2124 might be a different story, but the technology won't be roaming around parking lots looking for charging stations. By then one would assume cars would be like traveling by horse, something will replace it, most likely air travel. There are many studies going on getting planes right up between the earth's atmosphere and space and let gravity move you 2000 miles in an hour. Not around the corner, but give it 50 years. We will all be dead by then, but our kids will benefit, except the childless cat ladies.

Lol the creation of electricity is not clean. All this shit is a hoax to gain control.

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Old stats from Les. The reality of ev once the novelty of ev wears off is not good. Don’t know anyone who stays with an ev long, and they recommend never getting one.

[tgull]

Old stats from Les. The reality of ev once the novelty of ev wears off is not good. Don’t know anyone who stays with an ev long, and they recommend never getting one.

This is correct. I listened to one of the more wealthier wine estate owners in California on satellite the other day, he is worth over $500M and about as liberal as you can get. He said he bought an EV and got stranded twice going to his winery's and eventually just gave it away. Said never again, the stress of constantly trying to find a charging station outside a major city made it effectively useless. But for an Uber driver in Chicago they are fine.